The Canadian Liberals and US Democrats are Carbon-Copies of the pre-1938 Nazis

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And Hitler gave long detailed explanations as to why his socialism was different than the other socialism of the day such as The communist party or the socialist party. But it was still socialism

Every socialist the best version of socialism 🤣

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Smooth move calling people kiddo by an id1ot that lived to adulthood and still gets everything he's read or been taught ass backwards.

Herbie... You still have no idea what you did to your credibility the day that you tried to tell us that you renovated your house, using money from your CC, and tripled its value. 

Edited Friday at 03:48 AM by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

Now our Nazi party wants to prevent people under 16 from having social media accounts, which means that they would only ever be exposed to the narratives from central gov't's approved lackeys, like CBC and CTV. 

Earlier this year the Senate had to prevent the Liberal party's compelled speech bill regarding the res schools. The Libs tried to make it a criminal act to say words that didn't fit with their party's narratives. 

[Moonbox]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Historically and by The dictionary definition they are indeed socialist.

Yeah they were "socialist" in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is "democratic".  

The amount of self-delusion and ignorance that goes into this sort of statement is staggering. 

I'd ask you to explain how you conclude that a politcal party whose consolidation of power involved eliminating any vestigages of socialism from the country was "socialist", but we all know you can't. 

According to Fox:

• Banning communist and socialist parties
• Sending their leaders and academics to prisons and concentration camps
• Abolishing trade unions and collective bargaining rights
• Banning strikes and freezing wages
• Aligning with and enriching capitalist elites/magnates with massive government contracts while allowing them to maintain their private capital.  
• Promoting extreme anti-communism and going on a foolhardy war with the communist Soviet Union

These are all evidence of socialism.  

This is so stupid it's not even funny.  It's tragic that the education system failed you this badly.  

Edited Friday at 06:38 PM by Moonbox

[LinkSoul60]

On 6/24/2026 at 9:04 AM, WestCanMan said:

The Nazis were leftists, and that's just a fact.

😂😂😂  Good one!

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah they were "socialist" in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is "democratic".  

 

I don't think you really understand where the name comes from or what it means. Democratic was a communist term but just referred to a people's government. In the 1940s when the term and the country was named it was merely a statement that it was a communist country run by the people rather than the Bourgeois. And of course things have changed since then but that doesn't mean that the original people didn't believe in communism

Moving forward hitler explained in great detail why his government was specifically socialist. They very specifically call this socialist for a very good reason, but he believes that Nazi ideology differed from traditional communists to socialists in critically important ways.

But it's quite easy to see that their behavior was socialist

17 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

'd ask you to explain how you conclude that a politcal party whose consolidation of power involved eliminating any vestigages of socialism from the country was "socialist", but we all know you can't. 

Oh dear. Back to lying and inventing arguments. You can't actually win an argument with me so you pretend you had one and I lost  LOLOL

In fact if anything the Nazis move socialism forward in germany quite a bit

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

• Banning communist and socialist parties

They banned all parties. Why would you want competition

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

• Sending their leaders and academics to prisons and concentration camps

Again competition. And the Nazis Rose to power specifically as a foil to the communists. It doesn't mean they weren't socialist it just means they weren't part of the communist party and didn't like the competition

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

• Abolishing trade unions and collective bargaining rights

Nope. They actually created the largest trade union, the germans workers front. They just insisted that people belong to only that training. Which is something we see with our unions today, they try to take over businesses and industries it won't allow other humans to compete.

So of anything he created the largest trade union there was

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

• Banning strikes and freezing wages

Stalin did the same thing. You think Stalin was a capitalist? Banning labor unrest and freezing and dictating wages is definitely a left-wing thing

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

• Aligning with and enriching capitalist elites/magnates with massive government contracts while allowing them to maintain their private capital.  

They didn't maintain their private Capital they paid huge taxes. And they had to gear their industry towards the things that the socialists wanted. Hitler was very clear about that.

Hitler Did support a market economy, that's absolutely clear, but he exercise to control over that economy to a huge degree and the economy was in his own words intended to support the state and the states purpose of war.

Which is extremely socialist

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

• Promoting extreme anti-communism and going on a foolhardy war with the communist Soviet Union

I mean basically I'm having to repeat myself a dozen times to educate you on the basics. He considered the communists to be competition, he considered communism itself to be a bankrupt idea and a useless form of socialism, he preferred his own version of socialism and he repressed others

The socialist party also hated the communists by the way and vice versa. Your entire argument is too political parties didn't like each other so they can't possibly be socialist. There's not a lot of logic at work there

 

Socialism is generally defined as being Where a state controls the economy or means of production either directly through ownership or indirectly through excessive regulation and taxation.

From wikipedia:

Socialist systems are divided into non-market and market forms.^[15][16] A non-market socialist system seeks to eliminate the perceived inefficiencies, irrationalities, unpredictability, and crises that socialists traditionally associate with capital accumulation and the profit system.^[17] Market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets and sometimes the profit motive.^[18][19][20] As a political force, socialist parties and ideas exercise varying degrees of power and influence, heading national governments in several countries. 

 

Market socialism is common in these days. For example we refer to democratic socialists in Europe as examples. Nazism was a very similar and early form of that

27 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

These are all evidence of socialism.  

I don't think you have any idea what socialism is.

 

At any rate the short version is the Nazis exercise extreme control over their economy through taxation and regulation demanding and requiring that it's exists for the purpose of furthering the national socialist agenda of the Nazi party and of germany itself. This essentially meant war

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Meanwhile the germans created the largest trade union ever, introduced massive advancements in government funded Medicare, numerous social programs, family fun days and other left wing associated social policy

I know that people like you who prefer to see themselves on the left are absolutely frantic to try and avoid admitting that just like Stalin hitler was a socialist. But there you go

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

😂😂😂  Good one!

Sorry to see you crying like that big guy.

[LinkSoul60]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry to see you crying like that big guy.

Crying with laughter at the idi0cy of you and WCM...   Keep up the stupîd Kid, you do it well 👍

[eyeball]

44 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah they were "socialist" in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is "democratic".

For the win!

[Moonbox]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think you really understand where the name comes from or what it means.

I made it pretty clear where that name comes from.  It was a farce, just like the name of the government in North Korea is a farce.  

All that matters is what the Nazi regime did, and all of that was about as anti-left-wing as it gets.  

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I mean basically I'm having to repeat myself a dozen times to educate you on the basics.

You can repeat yourself as many times as you like, but it doesn't make retarded statements any less retarded.  

This is one of the dumbest things you've ever tried to argue, and that's saying something for one of the most ridiculous muppets to have ever graced this forum.  

[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah they were "socialist"

 

In the main way by which governments are identified, yes. 

You're confusing ideological socialism with the real-world, gun-in-your-face socialism that we see on planet earth.

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The amount of self-delusion and ignorance that goes into this sort of statement is staggering. 

 

Hence it comes to you so naturally... 🤔

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I'd ask you to explain how you conclude that a politcal party whose consolidation of power involved eliminating any vestigages of socialism from the country was "socialist", but we all know you can't. 

 

The Nazis controlled the price of everything, and everyone's wages. How is that not socialist? Go read a book, maybe. Or get mommy to read it to you.

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• Banning communist and socialist parties

Every socialist leader bans opposition parties. 

The reason the Dems demonize the GOP to the extent that they do is so that they can justify eliminating them.

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Promoting extreme anti-communism and going on a foolhardy war with the communist Soviet Union

Getting the cultists riled up enough to convince them to hand over all weapons, money and power often involves on the demonization of other groups, and the commies are the main contenders for the cultist horde. 

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Aligning with and enriching capitalist elites/magnates with massive government contracts while allowing them to maintain their private capital.  

Real-world, gun-in-your-face socialism still has oligarchs and wealthy cronies. 

The existence of those kinds of people is not antithetical to socialism, it's a key identifier of socialism in action.

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• Abolishing trade unions and collective bargaining rights
• Banning strikes and freezing wages

What need is there for unions when the Nazis/Dems/Libs control the prices of things, and wages, socialist-style?

And when the socialist government is in control of prices and wages, aren't unions just a form of opposition? They're basically going against the government's directives at that point. 

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• Sending their leaders and academics to prisons and concentration camps

Didn't the leftist hero, Che Guevara, get rid of people who opposed the gov't?

What socialist/communist doesn't get rid of undesirables?

 

Dummy, all of the things on your list are outta the "Socialism For The Real World Handbook".

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[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I made it pretty clear where that name comes from. 

You didn't have such thing. Unless you're actually claiming that the name comes from the north Koreans

 

I understand that you look stupid again and you want desperately for it to be my fault or somebody else's fault at the very least

But not seen regime was about as pro left wing as you get. Socialism-wise anyway. They believed in the state control of things, they believed in the state control of the economy, they believed that both citizens and industries purpose for existence was to further the interest of the state, They believe that speech and ideology should be compelled and unacceptable speech and ideology punished, and they believe that people that were a hindrance to those concepts should be killed and silenced

Exactly like the left wing today

There really wasn't anything that they did that wasn't socialistic. While a specific policies have changed between now and then the general policies Are largely the same between modern left and not see socialists of the time

I know this bothers you. But it doesn't make it any less true and simply stopping your feet and crying and claiming that the facts aren't true won't change them

 

[Moonbox]

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I understand that you look stupid again and you want desperately for it to be my fault or somebody else's fault at the very least

Except there's nothing stupid about claiming that a regime that outlawed communism, trade unions, collective bargaining, froze wages and made private capitalist magnates fabulously rich wasn't socialist.  

The person arguing the opposite looks stupid, and it really doesn't matter how much he pleads and insists otherwise. 

🤡👍

Please keep showing everyone how ridiculous you are.  This is about as good as entertainment gets.  

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You're confusing ideological socialism with the real-world, gun-in-your-face socialism that we see on planet earth.

And you people conflate the gun in your face type with Canadian governments and Canadian progressives.

Because you're all fricking retarded.

You are who and what Poilievre represents which is why Conservatives should never be elected to power again. 

Edited Friday at 09:19 PM by eyeball

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Except there's nothing stupid about claiming that a regime that outlawed communism, trade unions, collective bargaining, froze wages and made private capitalist magnates fabulously rich wasn't socialist.  

Except they didn't so you were stupid  

They banned opposition political parties of every stripe, they did not ban communism. Any political group that opposed them was gone -nothing to do with banning socialists. They created the largest trade union the country had ever seen with collective bargaining rights. Freezing wages is absolutely a socialist concept; capitalists and the like prefer the market to decide the wages. And they taxed the hell out of business. They told businesses what they should produce etc when they needed something for the 'social' goals. 

You don't get much more socialist than these guys. They not only supported unions they demanded that they're only be one union and everybody had to join. They set up public health care and social services. They insisted that everything had to be done in order to support the country that came before personal goals and issues. They completely repressed groups that didn't say what they wanted them to say

As usual you shot your mouth off without doing a much research and it shows. By every reasonable definition I'm Nazis were socialists

[Moonbox]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Except they didn't so you were stupid

Except you immediately contradict yourself, like the special little buffoon you are.  

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They banned opposition political parties of every stripe, they did not ban communism.

So they banned every opposition party but the communists? 

This is absolutely hilarious.  Thank you for this.  Please keep going.  Tell us more about how the worst example of far right politics in human history was actually socialist.  Tell us more about how banning trade unions and forcing wage freezes for the benefit of friendly business magnets is as far left as you get.  Look up the definition of Fascist, and then tell us more about how the Fascists were actually left-wing socialists because this sort of revisionist history better suits your myopic, brain-dead world view.  Please.  Don't stop.  

This is the best entertainment you could get.  You're so fantasticly, ridiculous dumb it's amazing.  Along with having absolutely nothing going on in your life but this forum, you're also categorically retarded.  🤣

Edited Friday at 10:38 PM by Moonbox

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Except you immediately contradict yourself, like the special little buffoon you are.  

Except i didn't. but of course your comprehension problems get in the way   But hey i don't mind pointing out you're stupid again  

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

They banned opposition political parties of every stripe, they did not ban communism.

So they banned every opposition party but the communists? 

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!  And there it is

I said they banned political parties.  I then said they didn't ban COMMUNISM!  Communism isn't a political party. It's the ideology. 

So they didn't say "nobody can be a communist" or the like. THey didn't ban communism.  They banned the political parties which were their rivals   IF they hated "communism" they'd have banned "communism".   ROFLMAO!

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

This is absolutely hilarious.  Thank you for this.  Please keep going. 

 

BWAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!  I assume you're talking to your mirror   LOL'

I have to agree tho, i'm literally laughing as i type   YOu're hilarious!

LOLOLOL  holy shit kid, it's like you go out of your way to look stupid  

you totally effed up and you just go on and on without realizing it was YOU who screwed up!!!!!!!!!! Just keep blathering with zero self awareness, so proud of yourself while everyone's laughing their ass off :    LOL honestly i couldn't write this shat it's so funny  

Wooo!  Well - good work kiddo, that was pretty awesome  

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

And you people conflate the gun in your face type with Canadian governments and Canadian progressives.

Our gov't did put a gun to kids' heads, when they forced them to take an improperly trialled mRNA jab that they absolutely did not need. 

Our gov't is also pushing to force us to regurgitate their false narratives, they're demonizing Catholics, they demonized the unvaxed, they're trying to regulate what we are allowed to say on social media...

Our gov't is following the Nazi playbook, step by step. There's nothing beneath them, and you will lie and slither right along with them always and forever, just like you did with covid.

You're one of the biggest cultists on this forum, eyeball. You'd be the first one to goosestep and adopt the party salute. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Crying with laughter at the idi0cy of you and WCM...   Keep up the stupîd Kid, you do it well 👍

Nazi supporters in 1935 sounded exactly like you, Link. 

They were instructed to try to mock and ridicule anyone who dared to speak ill of the Nazis and their ideology, just like you are. They were even supposed to snitch on people, just like the Libs did during covid, when they were also using the German gesundheitspass. 

You have two posts here, and haven't tried to address a single fact, or answer the challenge you were given.

At least Moonie gave a half-assed attempt before he got shot down. You were too afraid to say anything. 

Edited yesterday at 12:00 AM by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Except i didn't. but of course your comprehension problems get in the way   But hey i don't mind pointing out you're stupid again  

That makes no difference to them. 

They just like snotty insults, regardless of how foolish they look. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Except there's nothing stupid about

Everything you say and do is stupid, so if you said something in this thread, I will personally guarantee that it was stupid right here and now, without even looking at it.

 

And I answered your question you little chickenshit. Run along now. 

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Except i didn't. but of course your comprehension problems get in the way   But hey i don't mind pointing out you're stupid again  

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!  And there it is

I said they banned political parties.  I then said they didn't ban COMMUNISM!  Communism isn't a political party. It's the ideology. 

So they didn't say "nobody can be a communist" or the like. THey didn't ban communism.  They banned the political parties which were their rivals   IF they hated "communism" they'd have banned "communism".   ROFLMAO!

 

BWAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!  I assume you're talking to your mirror   LOL'

I have to agree tho, i'm literally laughing as i type   YOu're hilarious!

LOLOLOL  holy shit kid, it's like you go out of your way to look stupid  

you totally effed up and you just go on and on without realizing it was YOU who screwed up!!!!!!!!!! Just keep blathering with zero self awareness, so proud of yourself while everyone's laughing their ass off :    LOL honestly i couldn't write this shat it's so funny  

Wooo!  Well - good work kiddo, that was pretty awesome  

Someone's having a nervous breakdown it seems.  Did I upset you?

Would it make you feel better to tell us more about how the fascists were actually leftists?   Please, we all want to hear more of this brilliance.  🤣

Edited yesterday at 03:38 AM by Moonbox