Vassy Kapelos is a Disgusting Snake, the Propaganda Machine is in OVERDRIVE

[WestCanMan]

Remember a month ago when the MSM narrative was "Poilievre is too negative, so 'Canadians' don't like him"?

I was listening to that stunned tw4t's radio program this morning and it was all narratives, fake polling and lies.

First she went on at length about how 'Canadians' feel like Carney's unfortunate economic performance is just because of the timing with Trump, as if she really speaks for all Canadians, then she said "I was talking to a person the other day who said [paraphrasing] Poilievre gives a lot of good answers and seems to know all the facts, but the other day when he was talking about the recession he seemed happy that our economy wasn't doing well."

Next thing you know, her anecdote was actually a reflection of how "Canadians" in general feel. It's the new narrative.

So now Poilievre is unpopular because he smiled at the wrong time 😂

Fake polling? Oh yeah... Kapelos cited "polling data" saying that Carney is the most popular PM since Chretien, when he was opposing the Iraq war 😂

I'm not saying that she made that up herself, she didn't, but let's be honest.. Even CBC talking heads were noting Carney's aversion to sunlight last week. There's no way that Kapelos actually believes Carney is that popular. It's more likely that 67% of Canadians hate him. 

Anyways, here's what that fake polling says now:

• Surveys from firms like Spark Insights and Angus Reid show Prime Minister Mark Carney's approval hovering between 58% and 67%, making him one of the most favorably viewed Canadian leaders since Jean Chrétien's early tenure

I would guess that his actual support right now is closer to 25%. Just the diehard cultists plus someone who clicked a one when they thought they were clicking 3. 

Edited June 3 by WestCanMan

[Moonbox]

Big long rant that you don't like what the polling and the surveys say.  🙃

[Nefarious Banana]

The sad fact is that Poilievre will never be the PM of Canada . . . the sun has set for him.  There's no one in the wings that has caught the attention of the voteing public of either side.

[WestCanMan]

This seems like a really weird time to use fake polling to pretend that Carney's popularity is so high, because they can't possibly be keeping the polling this high on a consistent basis until 2028, which means that they will inevitably have to downgrade his popularity at some point to get back to a ballpark figure now. 

41 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Big long rant that you don't like what the polling and the surveys say.  🙃

Of course the polling is fake. It's always fake. But this time it's outrageously fake, and there's gotta be a reason. We just don't know what it is yet. 

[WestCanMan]

I guess that there is a recession now, and two of his cabinet ministers are leaving, so they feel like they have to crank up the propaganda for the byelections, so that Carney doesn't lose the CBC's majority? I mean, the LPoC majority? 

[Legato]

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I guess that there is a recession now, and two of his cabinet ministers are leaving, so they feel like they have to crank up the propaganda for the byelections, so that Carney doesn't lose the CBC's majority? I mean, the LPoC majority? 

 

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

CBC and the LPoC's other MSM lackeys are sure earning their money lately. 

[CdnFox]

Vassey is better than most, she's very frequently goes hard against the liberals in their bull crap.

Actually fairly popular right now and there is a psychological phenomenon that talks about that. I'm atheist is never more convinced of god's existence than when he gets a cancer diagnosis or the car loses control. Suddenly he wants to believe god exists so badly...

Everyone sees that we're out of control and everyone knows that carney is in power for a while so they are desperately desperately hoping that he will do well.

Unfortunately I feel they are about to be disappointed. I don't think CUSMA is going to go our way and I think that the economy is going to continue to weaken and by January or February next year people will be suffering even worse and they'll realize he absolutely has no intention of pulling this out of this nose done

Edited June 4 by CdnFox

[Barquentine]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I would guess that his actual support right now is closer to 25%.

Yeah, but since it's coming from you we know it's not an educated guess.

[Nefarious Banana]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Vassey is better than most, she's very frequently goes hard against the liberals in their bull crap.

Everyone sees that we're out of control and everyone knows that Carney is in power for a while so they are desperately desperately hoping that he will do well.

Vassey does go hard right when presented with the frequent hard left . . . the hard left that gets a free ride most often on the air waves.  Hat's off to her.  

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, but since it's coming from you we know it's not an educated guess.

More of a fact. Fair point.

[Moonbox]

20 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Of course the polling is fake. It's always fake. But this time it's outrageously fake, and there's gotta be a reason. We just don't know what it is yet. 

Of course it's fake?  Based on what?  Your claim that Carney only has ~27% public support?  That's what we call wishful thinking, or motivated reasoning.  You're abandoning the data because you don't like what it is saying and coming up with your own conclusions and rationalizations based on...nothing but desire.  

 

[WestCanMan]

On 6/4/2026 at 9:20 AM, Moonbox said:

Of course it's fake?  Based on what? 

The fact that it's always fake.

Polling in the US and Canada always has the leftist party up by anywhere from 5-7% for the last 30 days, and then on the last weekend, it magically drops to just 1.5%, and then it's 50/50 who gets the popular vote. 

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Your claim that Carney only has ~27% public support? 

I thought I said 25, but sure, I'll go with 27%. 

Only the most diehard LPoC cultists support Carney. He has the support of 0% of conservatives and 1% of the NDP, and not even all the Libt4rds support him. CBC, CTV and the Star have told the truth about him on occasion recently, that's like "signs of the apocalypse" serious. Even his MPs are quitting. 

Honestly, who's more of a left4rd cultist than Guilbeault? He weeps silent tears about global warming every night before he goes to bed in his Justin Trudeau man-panties, and even he is leaving. 

Carney's support is definitely below 33%.

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That's what we call wishful thinking, or motivated reasoning. 

That's called having eyeballs, and listening to people. 

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You're abandoning the data

Stop using the word "data" you basket-weaving jam-tart. You don't even know your 3X tables. 

There is no "data". Polling is as accurate as the old "Like" and "Share" counts on Twitter... Just like pollsters, they promised that they were legit, and there were no bots... but it was mostly bots.

[Nefarious Banana]

Soooo WCM . . . . . is Vassey still on your sh!t list?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I thought I said 25, but sure, I'll go with 27%. 

 

Well if you're talking about net favorability then you're actually still a little high apparently.

Carney has been about 30% net favorable but the latest Abacus polling shows him at about 21% net favorable. The liberals have also lost support for voting and more people are seeing the country as going in the wrong direction.

Honestly I don't think it's that people supported Carney as much as they're just not thinking about him and saying that they support them based on the fact that they voted for him

But in the last few weeks the economy and several other issues have been forced into the media quite a bit and people are starting to take a look at them and they're not liking what they see.

In some ways it doesn't matter because he's got his technical majority and probably won't have to face the voters anytime soon.  but i think that when people actually look at what he's doing they disapprove. I think the "approval" is based on the fact that most people aren't paying attention right now if it's not in their face. 

 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 the last few weeks the economy and several other issues have been forced into the media quite a bit and people are starting to take a look at them and they're not liking what they see.

 

There's something going on.

Today even CTV did a fairly long session about Alberta separation which showed Poilievre in a favourable light.

This was a 180 degree about face from their usual negative nonsense.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

There's something going on.

Today even CTV did a fairly long session about Alberta separation which showed Poilievre in a favourable light.

This was a 180 degree about face from their usual negative nonsense.

We're approaching summer, when NOBODY pays attention to politics unless a serious situation arises. But then we're into the fall when people do pay attention, and whatever's happened with CUSMA will have happened. And people are really going to start to watch if the economy is still poor and they're still paying higher prices and crime is still an iissue etc etc

And at that point it'll feel like an 'old' gov't, the 'i just got here' excuse will be done. 

And at that point i think we'll start to see some serious dipping in popularity and voter intentions. 

 

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well if you're talking about net favorability then you're actually still a little high apparently.

Carney has been about 30% net favorable but the latest Abacus polling shows him at about 21% net favorable. The liberals have also lost support for voting and more people are seeing the country as going in the wrong direction.

That looks far more realistic to me, but this was the word on CBC street a few days ago:

• Surveys from firms like Spark Insights and Angus Reid show Prime Minister Mark Carney's approval hovering between 58% and 67%, making him one of the most favorably viewed Canadian leaders since Jean Chrétien's early tenure

I mean, they might just as well start saying "The Liberal candidate had 18 holes-in-one that morning, and then won 99% of the popular vote in the election."

The propaganda is literally getting that outrageous.

67% approval would mean that he has taken over almost all of the NDP and Green voters, the undecideds, and even winning over some conservative voters. That's into "Winning a defensive war as an underdog" territory... It takes a monumental success to get into that rarified air.

It doesn't happen after:

• months of giving away billions of dollars that we can't afford
• talking big and then rolling over
• lying constantly
• lavishing exotic, luxury meals on himself and his staff while on 90-minute flights to meetings where he just gets humiliated and embarrasses the country
• pretending to remove taxes but not doing it at all
• running a massive deficit
• shutting down investigations into his own skullduggery, and running the country off-camera
• changing his opinion about an American war 4 times in one week
• achieving nothing, and
• making our country into the only one in the G20 that's in a recession, after bragging that we would be at the top of the G7

If that's the path to 67% approval, what would he have to do to get to 35%? Drop bombs on our NHL arenas?

Edited June 8 by WestCanMan

[Barquentine]

On 6/7/2026 at 9:22 PM, CdnFox said:

Carney has been about 30% net favorable but the latest Abacus polling shows him at about 21% net favorable.

+21% favourable, compared to PeePee at -8%, only 1% higher than Avi lewis, fahchrissake!

[Barquentine]

On 6/3/2026 at 9:54 PM, CdnFox said:

Vassey is better than most

 

On 6/7/2026 at 10:48 PM, Legato said:

Today even CTV did a fairly long session about Alberta separation

I thought you guys hated the MSM? Seems like you spend a lot of time watching them.

[Legato]

41 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

 

I thought you guys hated the MSM? Seems like you spend a lot of time watching them.

Well, having a broad spectrum of information give us a better platform on which to base our comments/opinions.

There's a well proven method for weaning oneself away from the CBC, it's called the off switch. Give it a try.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

+21% favourable, compared to PeePee at -8%, only 1% higher than Avi lewis, fahchrissake!

Sure, he gets all the media attention and people are still desperate to believe that he's going to be their savior.

Trudeau had the same numbers in the first year after his election. 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

 

I thought you guys hated the MSM?

You were two words into that before your statement became unbelievable  LOL

Vassey works for cbc but it's fair to say her show is attached to but separate from the MSM's usual line up. 

And while much of the MSM is pretty corrupted, the CBC being the worst, i don't think that most on the right "hate" it entirely.  There are good examples out there here and there.  But by and large it's pretty problematic. 

I know YOUR side likes to think in absolutes.  "All people right of castro are bad". "anyone who likes any of trumps policies is a nazi" etc etc.  You're driven by hatred and bigotry. 

But for the right most things are a lot more nuanced.  I don't like the control the MSM has over the distribution of information.  I DEFINITELY don't like that they're gov't funded.  And i hate that the 'official' gov't news source is just a propaganda arm for the liberals. 

But There's still some good reporters out there and good articles and such.  Vassey is more balanced than most. 

[Nefarious Banana]

Ben Mulroney . . . ?   Chugs a six pack of Red Bull, lights his hair on fire, and delights in broadcasting his contempt for Liberals, especially the wanker Justin Trideau.  

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But for the right most things are a lot more nuanced.  I don't like the control the MSM has over the distribution of information.  I DEFINITELY don't like that they're gov't funded.  And i hate that the 'official' gov't news source is just a propaganda arm for the liberals. 

But There's still some good reporters out there and good articles and such.  Vassey is more balanced than most.

You must be exhausted from all that backpedalling. And the Right being nuanced? The Right thinks nuance are their new stepdad's sisters.