President Trump, other Christian leaders dedicate America back to the God of the Bible

[Hodad]

37 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

How far back are we going? Under God was a Cold War distinction from the godless commie. The original pledge was written by a Baptist minister to assimilate the different tribes of European immigrants. 
 

Explain how you’re going to leave god out of this again?

You're just flailing now. Again, "under god" was added in 1954. Learn and move on. We don't need 4 pages of back and forth trying to distract from your fumble.  

It's not a matter of me leaving god out. It's a matter of the founders leaving god out. A non-biblical, deistic "nature's god" appears in the declaration, but the constitution itself deliberately omits it, for the reasons mentioned above. 

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[Gaétan]

The United States is led by the devil and acts under the orders of the great prostitute Israel.

[West]

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

You're just flailing now. Again, "under god" was added in 1954. Learn and move on. We don't need 4 pages of back and forth trying to distract from your fumble.  

It's not a matter of me leaving god out. It's a matter of the founders leaving god out. A non-biblical, deistic "nature's god" appears in the declaration, but the constitution itself deliberately omits it, for the reasons mentioned above. 

You are incorrect. Christianity was the religion of the original colonies. Separation of church and state derived from the tolerance different Christian faith expressions, not some godless society as you indicate. 

[Hodad]

33 minutes ago, West said:

You are incorrect. Christianity was the religion of the original colonies. Separation of church and state derived from the tolerance different Christian faith expressions, not some godless society as you indicate. 

I'm not. The people were largely Christians of various sects. The government was not. Very much by design.

Remember that the colonists fled persecution at the hands of government-imposed religion. They undertook harrowing voyages across uncertain seas just to escape religious government and to live and worship freely. 

As products of that migration, the founders understood the the danger--the evil--of religious government. That's why they designed a government that was deliberately and explicitly not tied to religion. They understood that a secular government is the only way to guarantee religious freedom--including freedom from religion. 

So stop trying to fark it up with your nonsense. Believe whatever weird shit you want. Just leave it out of the law--as the founders did.

[West]

14 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I'm not. The people were largely Christians of various sects. The government was not. Very much by design.

Remember that the colonists fled persecution at the hands of government-imposed religion. They undertook harrowing voyages across uncertain seas just to escape religious government and to live and worship freely. 

As products of that migration, the founders understood the the danger--the evil--of religious government. That's why they designed a government that was deliberately and explicitly not tied to religion. They understood that a secular government is the only way to guarantee religious freedom--including freedom from religion. 

So stop trying to fark it up with your nonsense. Believe whatever weird shit you want. Just leave it out of the law--as the founders did.

The settlers faith played a major role especially in early formative years. It was not uncommon for political figures to call for days of prayer. 

Yes you are correct in stating that there is no official state religion. As I said the colonies were made up of a variety of Christian faith expressions ie Puritans, Quakers, Anglicans, Catholics who fled persecution in Europe, mainly religious. 

However you are incorrect in stating that political figures were non religious and they often mixing their religion with politics. This day of prayer was to remember the proclamation in May 1776 when George Washington made the proclamation of a national day of prayer as the founding fathers drafted the declaration of independence. 

Furthermore 8 of the 13 colonies recognized a specific church tradition as the official religion of the colony

https://www.nationaldayofprayer.org/about/history_of_prayer_in_america

Here's a list.

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[Gaétan]

The leader of Congress is a kind of unhinged fanatic who has been brainwashed by evangelicals or another sect serving Satan. His deep desire is to serve the great prostitute Israel.

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[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The leader of Congress is a kind of unhinged fanatic who has been brainwashed by evangelicals or another sect serving Satan. His deep desire is to serve the great prostitute Israel.

Lol...some have TDS bad. But this fanatic is off the rails completely. 

Wha's a matter Gaetan? Did you get caught masterbating again?

[User]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The leader of Congress is a kind of unhinged fanatic who has been brainwashed by evangelicals or another sect serving Satan. His deep desire is to serve the great prostitute Israel.

You do more every day on this forum to demonstrate you are the one following Satan. 

[Barquentine]

23 hours ago, West said:

Congress called the national day of prayer May 17, 1776 where they repented of sin and dedicated the nation to the God of the Bible. This was in preparation of the declaration of Independence and the drafting of the constitution 

So what? 

Christianity is not mentioned in the US Constitution. The document contains no references to Jesus, the Bible, or God, and it is considered a strictly secular framework for government. [1, 2]

The only references to religion in the text are found in two specific provisions designed to protect freedom of conscience:

• Article VI, Clause 3: Prohibits any "religious Test" as a qualification for holding any public office or public trust in the United States.
• The First Amendment: Ensures religious freedom through the Establishment Clause (which prevents the government from establishing a state religion) and the Free Exercise Clause (which prevents the government from interfering with religious practice). [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Historically, this intentional separation of church and state was formalized in the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, which explicitly stated that the United States government "is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." [1]

 

[Hodad]

9 hours ago, West said:

The settlers faith played a major role especially in early formative years. It was not uncommon for political figures to call for days of prayer. 

Yes you are correct in stating that there is no official state religion. As I said the colonies were made up of a variety of Christian faith expressions ie Puritans, Quakers, Anglicans, Catholics who fled persecution in Europe, mainly religious. 

However you are incorrect in stating that political figures were non religious and they often mixing their religion with politics. This day of prayer was to remember the proclamation in May 1776 when George Washington made the proclamation of a national day of prayer as the founding fathers drafted the declaration of independence. 

Furthermore 8 of the 13 colonies recognized a specific church tradition as the official religion of the colony

https://www.nationaldayofprayer.org/about/history_of_prayer_in_america

Here's a list.

Are you just repeating stuff you found on Facebook or something? 

George Washington didn't "proclaim" a national anything in May of 1776. There was no nation! He didn't even become president until 1789. At that time he would have been a general in a militia in a British colony. 

You clearly have no knowledge of this period of history--the basic facts, let alone the philosophical underpinnings. 

I didn't say that the political figures were non-religious--though many key players were deistic rather than religious. I said that they were experienced enough to to understand that religious government is a terrible idea, and wise enough to write it out of our national foundation. It's not an accident. It was very deliberate. 

 

[West]

53 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Are you just repeating stuff you found on Facebook or something? 

George Washington didn't "proclaim" a national anything in May of 1776. There was no nation! He didn't even become president until 1789. At that time he would have been a general in a militia in a British colony. 

You clearly have no knowledge of this period of history--the basic facts, let alone the philosophical underpinnings. 

I didn't say that the political figures were non-religious--though many key players were deistic rather than religious. I said that they were experienced enough to to understand that religious government is a terrible idea, and wise enough to write it out of our national foundation. It's not an accident. It was very deliberate. 

 

You have not refuted a single point and are lost when it comes to what this day was all about. It was a day of prayer and repentance in remembrance to the May 1776 proclamation as they drafted the declaration of Independence (America's 250 is this year and just one of the events). The context to the 1776 proclamation being prayer and Christianity.

Here's more for you from the link I posted 

The same week Congress passed the Bill of Rights, President George Washington declared, October 3, 1789: “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the Providence of Almighty God, to obey His will...and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me ‘to recommend to the People of the United States a Day of Public Thanksgiving and Prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness’..."

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[User]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

So what? 

It helps if you bothered to stay on topic here. 

[User]

Man, the bigots and atheists hate it when you start talking about the clear Christian roots our nation was founded on.

The topic presented here wasn’t that the Constitution says God, mentions the Bible, or that the legal framework clearly says anything about Jesus… or any of the other strawman arguments being made by the usual suspects.

 

[Nationalist]

13 minutes ago, User said:

Man, the bigots and atheists hate it when you start talking about the clear Christian roots our nation was founded on.

The topic presented here wasn’t that the Constitution says God, mentions the Bible, or that the legal framework clearly says anything about Jesus… or any of the other strawman arguments being made by the usual suspects.

 

This is true. A Libbie is compelled by his/her affliction, to do everything in their power, to destroy Christianity. 

Just stop a second and think about the state of affairs in "the Christian world". West Europe has been flooded with Muslims. People who have nothing but disdain for us. The US and Canastan followed suit.

These are people who have attacked Europe countless times. So why let them in our world en masse? The answer is rather obvious...no?

I have no love for Christianity. But I am wise enough to recognize that it and common racial ancestry are the glue the should be holding "The Western World" together. 

And Libbies are intent on dissolving that cultural glue.

Hence...they are traitors.

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[West]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

This is true. A Libbie is compelled by his/her affliction, to do everything in their power, to destroy Christianity. 

Just stop a second and think about the state of affairs in "the Christian world". West Europe has been flooded with Muslims. People who have nothing but disdain for us. The US and Canastan followed suit.

These are people who have attacked Europe countless times. So why let them in our world en masse? The answer is rather obvious...no?

I have no love for Christianity. But I am wise enought to recognize that it and common racial ancestry are the glue the should be holding "The Western World" together. 

And Libbies are intent of dissolving that cultural glue.

Hence...they are traitors.

Rewriting history is very marxist. 

[Nationalist]

Just now, West said:

Rewriting history is very marxist. 

That's because Communism cannot function at all, if there is a power higher than itself. The government must be all that matters, for Communism to function.

Unfortunately...this belief is completely contrary to the very instincts of humans. Hence the Iron Curtain was not there to keep The West out...but to keep the captors in.

Communism fails...over and over again...because people have "greed". Its just that simple.

[Hodad]

38 minutes ago, West said:

You have not refuted a single point and are lost when it comes to what this day was all about. It was a day of prayer and repentance in remembrance to the May 1776 proclamation as they drafted the declaration of Independence (America's 250 is this year and just one of the events). The context to the 1776 proclamation being prayer and Christianity.

Here's more for you from the link I posted 

The same week Congress passed the Bill of Rights, President George Washington declared, October 3, 1789: “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the Providence of Almighty God, to obey His will...and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me ‘to recommend to the People of the United States a Day of Public Thanksgiving and Prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness’..."

Well, that's a weird take. In the post to which you are replying I rather definitively refuted your comically absurd claim that (non-president) Washington issued a proclamation for a national day of prayer (before there was a nation) in May of 1776.

I'm glad you've caught up to the correct decade for a Washington proclamation (you're welcome) but you'd have to actually make a cogent point to expect a refutation. WTF is your point?

That the US is a Christian nation? It isn't, and was rendered deliberately so in the language of the constitution. Virtually every other government up to that point been predicated on divine right to rule. This was a government by and for the people.

Yes, some of the founders were religious. But they deliberately restrained themselves from creating a religious government, because the endorsement of one is the exclusion of the others. It's secular for a reason, and to the benefit of every free person under the flag.

 

[West]

30 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Well, that's a weird take. In the post to which you are replying I rather definitively refuted your comically absurd claim that (non-president) Washington issued a proclamation for a national day of prayer (before there was a nation) in May of 1776.

I'm glad you've caught up to the correct decade for a Washington proclamation (you're welcome) but you'd have to actually make a cogent point to expect a refutation. WTF is your point?

That the US is a Christian nation? It isn't, and was rendered deliberately so in the language of the constitution. Virtually every other government up to that point been predicated on divine right to rule. This was a government by and for the people.

Yes, some of the founders were religious. But they deliberately restrained themselves from creating a religious government, because the endorsement of one is the exclusion of the others. It's secular for a reason, and to the benefit of every free person under the flag.

 

I never made the claim that Washington was President... 

 

"On May 15, 1776, General George Washington ordered: “The Continental Congress having ordered Friday the 17th instant to be observed as a Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, humbly to supplicate the mercy of Almighty God..."

 

From the link above 

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[robosmith]

On 5/18/2026 at 6:45 AM, Nationalist said:

Yes. And this "Creator" is "God".

The one commonality of the 3 Abrahamic religions. 

"In God We Trust"

You don't even know that phrase was adopted in the '50s to help fight the Cold War. LMAO

Quote

 

That is true. Driven by the geopolitical conflict with the officially atheist Soviet Union, Congress adopted "In God We Trust" as the official U.S. motto in 1956. Lawmakers aimed to distinguish America from "godless communists" by officially emphasizing the nation's spiritual values. 

 

On 5/18/2026 at 8:31 AM, Nationalist said:

That and...you know...the latest in Spring sundress fashion.

You just can't help demonstrating your ^lDIOCY, dropout.

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You don't even know that phrase was adopted in the '50s to help fight the Cold War. LMAO

 

You just can't help demonstrating your ^lDIOCY, dropout.

1. I dont care, PeeWee. Nor do I know if that's even true. So I'll check...

OOPS...

"In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States and was first added to coins in 1864. It became mandatory on all U.S. currency following a law passed in 1955."

Id1ot...

2. See point #1.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, West said:

You have not refuted a single point and are lost when it comes to what this day was all about. It was a day of prayer and repentance in remembrance to the May 1776 proclamation as they drafted the declaration of Independence (America's 250 is this year and just one of the events). The context to the 1776 proclamation being prayer and Christianity.

Here's more for you from the link I posted 

The same week Congress passed the Bill of Rights, President George Washington declared, October 3, 1789: “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the Providence of Almighty God, to obey His will...and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me ‘to recommend to the People of the United States a Day of Public Thanksgiving and Prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness’..."

"Almighty God" does NOT mean Christian.

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, West said:

I never made the claim that Washington was President... 

 

"On May 15, 1776, General George Washington ordered: “The Continental Congress having ordered Friday the 17th instant to be observed as a Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, humbly to supplicate the mercy of Almighty God..."

 

From the link above 

You are embarrassingly dishonest .

This is a direct quote: "This day of prayer was to remember the proclamation in May 1776 when George Washington made the proclamation of a national day of prayer as the founding fathers drafted the declaration of independence."

You claimed that Washington made a "proclamation" of a "national" day of prayer. Which individual is empowered to proclaim a national day of anything? That's right, the POTUS. Was Washington POTUS in May of 1776? No, he wasn't. Was there a nation at that time? No, there wasn't.  

So just STFU about it. Jeebus. 

[Gaétan]

American and global Christian churches have become deeply hypocritical institutions, and Jesus recognizes none of them. These are not Christian institutions at all, but corrupt institutions that do not come from God.

Matthew 7:21–23 — Jesus rejects believers who practice iniquity

Summary: Jesus warns that many believers who perform religious works will be rejected because of their lawlessness.

Verse (1 line):

“I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” (Matthew 7:23)

Use: Jesus condemns internal iniquity among people who think they are faithful.

2. Matthew 23 — Jesus denounces religious hypocrisy

Summary: Jesus exposes the corruption of religious leaders and believers who appear holy but are inwardly unjust.

Verse (1 line):

“You are like whitewashed tombs… outwardly beautiful, but inside full of dead men’s bones.” (Matthew 23:27)

Use: The strongest chapter against hypocrisy inside a religious community.

3. Revelation 2–3 — Jesus rebukes the churches

These are direct words of Jesus to Christian churches.

Church of Ephesus — lost love

“You have abandoned the love you had at first.” (Revelation 2:4)

Church of Pergamum — tolerating sin

“You have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam…” (2:14)

Church of Thyatira — corruption inside

“You tolerate that woman Jezebel…” (2:20)

Church of Sardis — spiritually dead

“You have the reputation of being alive, but you are dead.” (3:1)

Church of Laodicea — lukewarm, blind, arrogant

“You are lukewarm… wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.” (3:16–17)

Use: Jesus judges the iniquities of the Church itself, not outsiders.

4. Matthew 15:7–9 — Worship without obedience

Summary: Jesus condemns believers who honor God with words but not with their hearts.

Verse (1 line):

“This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” (Matthew 15:8)

5. Luke 11:39–44 — Inner corruption

Summary: Jesus rebukes believers who focus on religious appearance but ignore justice and love.

Verse (1 line):

“You clean the outside of the cup… but inside you are full of greed and wickedness.” (Luke 11:39)

6. John 8:44 — False spiritual identity

Summary: Jesus tells religious believers that their actions reveal they are not children of God.

Verse (1 line):

“You are of your father the devil… for he is a liar.” (John 8:44)

8. Matthew 25:31–46 — Judgment of unjust believers

Summary: Jesus condemns believers who failed to practice justice and mercy.

Verse (1 line):

“Depart from me, you cursed…” (Matthew 25:41)

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[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

This is true. A Libbie is compelled by his/her affliction, to do everything in their power, to destroy Christianity.

Are you trying to outdo yourself with stupid statements? If so you're succeeding.

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

These are people who have attacked Europe countless times.

Like the Crusades? Colonial subjugation? Does anyone have a monopoly on pristine history?