Stay Free, Alberta

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It really actually bothers me that there's such a lack of basic reasoning and logic skills 

They say the emptiest vessels make the most noise, and that describes leftists to a tee.

They all just go straight to shrieking about a topic before they have the slightest clue what's really going on.

• "I saw a video of a hungry polar bear, so I'm an expert on climate change now!!! WE HAVE TO IMPORT OUR OIL FROM SAUDI ARABIA NOW!!!!!"
• "I work with a muslim. I know everything about muslims, Jews and ME history now!"

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They say the emptiest vessels make the most noise, and that describes leftists to a tee.

They all just go straight to shrieking about a topic before they have the slightest clue what's really going on.

• "I saw a video of a hungry polar bear, so I'm an expert on climate change now!!! WE HAVE TO IMPORT OUR OIL FROM SAUDI ARABIA NOW!!!!!"
• "I work with a muslim. I know everything about muslims, Jews and ME history now!"

Very true.

And the problem is they will defend that position even though they had no logic or facts to derive it in the first place against all comers.  If I say something and someone challenges it I generally go do a bit of reading and make sure that I'm on the right side of the facts before I continue. But they are not burdened by that kind of thinking. They just continued defending their point even in the face of facts and reason that proves that they were wrong to begin with.

And I see you upset poor Exflyer, he's making his rounds doing his little "I'm really mad" downarrow thing  

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And the problem is they will defend that position even though they had no logic or facts to derive it in the first place against all comers.

Eg, Moonie will never acknowledge that what's at stake for Israel is an actual genocide, with millions of people slaughtered, and no Jews left anywhere in Israel/Palestine. 

For him it's about "reversing the injustice of 1948", but the topic of "late 1940s British partitions" is somehow off the table. 

He wants to use surgical precision to arbitrarily limit the dates to whichever ones he chooses, ignore the broader historical and regional picture, ignore the barbarism of terrorist attacks and how widely they are celebrated in the muslim world (Mamdani's wife is clicking "like" on Hamas's Oct 7th tweets), ignore the lengths that Israelis go to in order to preserve lives while they try to destroy sinister tunnel complexes and take out rocket launchers in residential buildings, etc. All with the backdrop of a PROMISE of genocide against the Jews by Hamas and the IRGC that Moonie will never acknowledge, and even the genocidal intent of the 3 noes of Khartoum, which were agreed to by the whole Arab League. 

[LinkSoul60]

52 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think it's cute. Like those little kits we used to buy the kids where they could dress up and run around pretending they were a real doctor and the like  

Well of course I'm not one to speak about the first part being mildly dyslexic and having my voice dictation actively fight me half the time   But the second part is certainly a something I would agree with 100%.

It's disappointing to see how low the reasoning is. Not to pick on him but as an example linksoul was arguing the other day that life in vancouver was unaffordable in 2015. And as "proof" he made a claim about the cost of a house (turned out to be wrong but that's not the point. )

Now, a person trained to think AT ALL would realize that the cost of a house is meaningless UNLESS you also look at the wages people were earning.  If people in vancouver were earning an average of 200k a year that's quite affordable if they were earning 10 k a year that's not. 

But it never even occurred to him that you need BOTH figures to work out what's affordable.  That's SO basic, like 1st year university basic. How can you say if something's affordable without looking at how much people can afford?

And we see that kind of sloppy thinking constantly.

It really actually bothers me that there's such a lack of basic reasoning and logic skills 

Exactly how often do you need to prove your stupidity.... bi-hourly, or just every hour.

I find it hilarious that a minion like you can't show me one link that says Metro Vancouver was affordable in 2015.  Just one little guy... come on 😂   Then again I wouldn't expect you to know because I'm sure you were living in your parents basement then as you probably are now.  Nobody with any sort of life and responsibilities would be out here as often as you are otherwise.

So Kiddo... here's just a few links again to show how your guy Harper helped metro Vancouver real estate with the influx of Chinese he was courting;

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/federal-candidates-vancouver-real-estate-1.3256822

A report by RBC Economics shows housing affordability continued to decline in Vancouver and Toronto in the first quarter of the year. The report found that covering the cost of a single-family home in the city would require more than 85 per cent of a household's pre-tax income. 

https://www.rbc.com/newsroom/_assets-custom/pdf/20150622-HA.pdf

…but continued to rise in Toronto and Vancouver

At the other end of the spectrum, solid price increases continued to erode

housing affordability in the Toronto-area market. Strong price gains for single-

detached homes also squeezed already poor affordability in the Vancouver,

although there was some reprieve in the condo segment, where prices inched a

little lower. Both Toronto and Vancouver have been Canada’s housing ‘hot

spots’ so far this year despite broadly deteriorating affordability trends.

Little affordability-related stress outside Vancouver and Toronto

Generally speaking, housing affordability remains fairly neutral in CanadaHOUSING TRENDS AND AFFORDABILITY | JUNE 2015

with limited signs of undue stress being exerted on homebuyers. Both at the

national level and in the majority of local markets, RBC’s affordability

measures are still quite close to their long-term average, thereby suggesting

that current conditions are within historical norms. The two main exceptions

are Vancouver and Toronto where high and rising prices make it a stretch for

a typical household to own a home at today’s market values, especially in

the single-detached segments (the bar on condo ownership is comparatively

much less of a hurdle). In the case of Vancouver, poor affordability has long

been the reality. In the case of Toronto, however, the situation mostly re-

flects slippage in the past four years or so.

https://mapleridgenews.com/2015/03/26/unaffordable-home-prices-to-ripple-across-metro-vancouver/

https://cityhallwatch.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/vancouver-housing-boom-unstoppable-or-not/

 

I could keep on pasting links, but why.... 

Now show me again just how stupid you are....  

 

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Eg, Moonie will never acknowledge that what's at stake for Israel is an actual genocide, with millions of people slaughtered, and no Jews left anywhere in Israel/Palestine. 

For him it's about "reversing the injustice of 1948", but the topic of "late 1940s British partitions" is somehow off the table. 

He wants to use surgical precision to arbitrarily limit the dates to whichever ones he chooses, ignore the broader historical and regional picture, ignore the barbarism of terrorist attacks and how widely they are celebrated in the muslim world (Mamdani's wife is clicking "like" on Hamas's Oct 7th tweets), ignore the lengths that Israelis go to in order to preserve lives while they try to destroy sinister tunnel complexes and take out rocket launchers in residential buildings, etc. All with the backdrop of a PROMISE of genocide against the Jews by Hamas and the IRGC that Moonie will never acknowledge, and even the genocidal intent of the 3 noes of Khartoum, which were agreed to by the whole Arab League. 

Lol...  Dumb and Dumber seeing who can out-stupid who.  You both win 🏆

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Exactly how often do you need to prove your stupidity.... bi-hourly, or just every hour.

LOL ahh starting off with an insult that's actually an admission of your own failings,  That's your signature way of admitting you know you're wrong  Love to see it  

 

 

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I find it hilarious that a minion like you can't show me one link that says Metro Vancouver was affordable in 2015.  

I gave you dozens and did the math for you. More than once. I even gave you proof looking at it from different ways. On top of it west can gave you some proof and a couple of other people. Not to mention the fact that I drew proofs from your own links  

And in fact I'll do so again right now from your own link:

The two main exceptions

are Vancouver and Toronto where high and rising prices make it a stretch for

a typical household to own a home at today’s market values,especially in

the single-detached segments (the bar on condo ownership is comparatively

much less of a hurdle

 

My claim was that Vancouver was expensive but affordable. 

Your own link says that it was a stretch to afford a detached home but a nice townhouse or condo was much less of a hurdle.

He stretch is not unaffordable. It just means it's expensive. And Townhomes, which is what I specifically mentioned. We're much more affordable

 

You literally just proved me right. Vancouver was expensive but affordable

I provided you with actual hard numbers and actual definitions and many many links, you provide one and it still proves me right

Kid, you and Robo Smith are in an absolute race to see who's the dumbest person on this board and you've got everyone else lapped. 

[herbie]

Do you every read or watch detective novels or shows?
FOLLOW HE MONEY
WHO STANDS TO GAIN?

Despite the claims of Chinese, Russian, or Indian political interference, for this subject both lead to the same place. 
The good ole USA.

Don't be so chicken and unpatriotic you won't acknowledge that out loud.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Exactly how often do you need to prove your stupidity.... bi-hourly, or just every hour.

I find it hilarious that a minion like you can't show me one link that says Metro Vancouver was affordable in 2015.

I already showed you a few days ago how much house prices/rent and gas have gone up compared to wages since then. 

Wages was at 70% while house prices were well over 100% and gas was close to 100. 

FYI, that makes living here less affordable than before.

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 Lol...  Dumb and Dumber seeing who can out-stupid who.  You both win 

You're just busy trying to out-ignorant everyone here, because that's the premiere event of the Left4rd Cultist Olympics. 

I wish I could tell you that you're beating eyeball, robo, Beave, etc, but you're all tied for 1st at 100.0% ignorant. Don't feel bad, there's nothing that you can do to be more ignorant than you already are.

[Goober National]

9 hours ago, John Stone said:

Definitely important for those supporting secession to have a clear understanding of what they're supporting. 

Over several decades political movements have advocated the secession of Alberta, with some groups supporting the creation of a sovereign union with the other provinces of Western Canada ...... other groups supporting the province joining the U.S. as a state or territory. 

A so-called sovereign union refers to self-governance and independence, maintaining authority over their own affairs without external interference ........... a sovereign country. 

I do believe the U.S. would have a strategic economic  interest in Alberta. 

Akin to Philippines, Panama, Cuba, Puerto  Rico, Virgin Islands, Hawaii, Florida, Alaska ................................. Greenland? 

............. def don't want Kanucks to get paranoid, but if it's real it ain't paranoia. 😁

 

If Alberta joined US it would be like their entry point into Canada. Literally putting a wedge through the door. Then the whole house of cards will collapse. That's like gravy for the US.

Therefore, we must Stand on Guard For Thee, laddy.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I already showed you a few days ago how much house prices/rent and gas have gone up compared to wages since then. 

 

Dude in my post right around the same time i put in FIVE links to stats proving my point precisey.  And despite YOUR data as well as mine and all the links involved he's still here demanding there's no links.  

This isn't a rational person. 

[Goober National]

21 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Stoopid Whiners!

And yet you are whining as well, with that outburst.

The point is not necessarily to "win" (separation), but to put screws to the fed.

I'm alright with that.   

[Barquentine]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

My claim was that Vancouver was expensive but affordable.

Oxymoron! And so is what you said. Expensive means only the well off can afford it, not the average working man. Is your coffee hot AND cold? Is Manute Bol tall AND short?

Even for you that's a dumb argument.

[paxamericana]

14 hours ago, Goober National said:

Therefore, we must Stand on Guard For Thee, laddy.

And what, become fourth world? Don’t think so, economic is gravity and it points one way, back to Uncle Sam. All Canada needs is a little push. And the longer we wait this out the faster Canada breaks up. Time is not on your side. Best you all learn to speak American.

Edited May 9 by paxamericana

[Goober National]

17 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

And what, become fourth world? Don’t think so, economic is gravity and it points one way, back to Uncle Sam. All Canada needs is a little push. And the longer we wait this out the faster Canada breaks up. Time is not on your side. Best you all learn to speak American.

Meanwhile your country is famous for leaving a wake of destruction in its path, in the guise of "helping".

Trumpster is simply making it plain and obvious, for anyone to see.

So, you're not the good guys either. In fact USA, China, same-same. Seems like.

The Canada I defend is the real Canada, not today's fake country sold out to the globalists. The Canada that is strong and has a mlitary, but uphold the notion of peace-keeping. A futuristic country to keep you rabid dogs from annihilating each other.

Edited May 9 by Goober National

[paxamericana]

25 minutes ago, Goober National said:

the real Canada,

Uh huh, is that why you spend so much mental effort in explaining how you’re not something? 

That’s Canadian favorite sport, complaining, about America. 
 

27 minutes ago, Goober National said:

So, you're not the good guys either.

Being good doesn’t mean what you think it means. America’s primary objective has always been peace and security for itself and that sometimes involves playing world police. Being good doesn’t mean being a toothless deadbeat pushover like the rest of you lot.

[Goober National]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Uh huh, is that why you spend so much mental effort in explaining how you’re not something? 

That’s Canadian favorite sport, complaining, about America. 
 

Being good doesn’t mean what you think it means. America’s primary objective has always been peace and security for itself and that sometimes involves playing world police. Being good doesn’t mean being a toothless deadbeat pushover like the rest of you lot.

Wouldnt expect you to understand the critical role of Canada in the world, Ysnkee Doodle. You peope are militarized from birth, like the Spartans. 

Canada will drag stone age thinkers lije yourself into the future.

A world where everyone loves each other, with respect and hugs.

[John Stone]

16 hours ago, Goober National said:

If Alberta joined US it would be like their entry point into Canada. Literally putting a wedge through the door. Then the whole house of cards will collapse. That's like gravy for the US.

Therefore, we must Stand on Guard For Thee, laddy.

.............. relax ...... Vegas is giving better odds on Quebec ...... where support for secession stands at about 25 percent. 😁

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Oxymoron!

Whereas you're just a regular m0ron?

And no, it's not an oxymoron.  That's something different, like "bittersweet".  What you appear to be trying to say is that it's contradictory.  No,  something can be expensive but affordable.   If butter was 12 dollars a lb i'd call it very expensive but i could still afford it. 

 

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And so is what you said. Expensive means only the well off can afford it, not the average working man. Is your coffee hot AND cold? Is Manute Bol tall AND short?

No, expensive does not mean "Only the well off can afford it".  That's just stupid.

Epensive means it costs more than it should or more than you'd expect.  It doesn't mean you can't afford it. 

Why am i always having to give you english lessons? Yeash, 

[Goober National]

4 hours ago, John Stone said:

.............. relax ...... Vegas is giving better odds on Quebec ...... where support for secession stands at about 25 percent. 😁

 

Quebec ain't got no oil, and Trump don't like frenchies. But Alberta beef? Oh my...

[paxamericana]

29 minutes ago, Goober National said:

Quebec ain't got no oil, and Trump don't like frenchies. But Alberta beef? Oh my...

Delicious yes, it’s countdown time until freedom for Alberta.

[John Stone]

😄

1 hour ago, Goober National said:

Quebec ain't got no oil, and Trump don't like frenchies. But Alberta beef? Oh my...

................... indeed, Quebec's diverse industries, strategic  location,  ice free ports, international connections as an ersatz nation, cosmopolitan population, twice Alberta's GDP, established political networks in Ottawa and a history of talking the walk of secession, - really don't count for much. 😅

Trump?

Why do you think the 'frenchies' are standing at 25 percent supporting secession - but that always goes up/down like a whore's drawers. 

The PQ is standing in the wings to take power. 

Alberta is landlocked, they have oil and Ag, half of Quebec's GDP!, minute population that is extremely scattered. 

The global demand for oil is decreasing and that decline will accelerate. 

Should add that the petrodollar (international surplus) is going to become far less attractive - this will be a huge concern for the U.S.  in the near future. (20 years)

Alberta's premier is playing a masterful game with Ottawa tho ......... all bluff, but I applaud her strategy. 

Quebec's notion of statehood might be foolish ............. but not to the same degree as Alberta's. 😄

Beef  - meh!

Luv to get one of these bad-boys in my freezer.

 

Edited May 9 by John Stone

[paxamericana]

16 hours ago, John Stone said:

The global demand for oil is decreasing and that decline will accelerate. 

Oil is used for a lot more than just pure fuel production. Petro chemical derivatives are the foundation of modern industrial technology.

Edited May 10 by paxamericana

[John Stone]

19 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Oil is used for a lot more than just pure fuel production. Petro chemical derivatives are the foundation of modern industrial technology.

Oh, indeed - but that does not change the fact that the global demand  for crude is declining. 

Gasoline is political, purchasing it is not elective as say, a plastic bag. 

The a$$ will come out of the petrodollar - it's seen as U.S.  imperialism. (it is)

With the U.S. debt at 40 trillion and expected to double in 25 years, it is cause for concern. 

And that, is why 'bone spurs' is so concerned about the bond markets - not to mention the ME. 

[paxamericana]

27 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Gasoline is political, purchasing it is not elective as say, a plastic bag. 

Wut? Oil is oil. You need oil for both products. A refinery can allocate more oil for one product than another based on market price. Which assuming demand is falling then production gets reduced for whichever product is lower in demand. 

[John Stone]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Wut? Oil is oil. You need oil for both products. A refinery can allocate more oil for one product than another based on market price. Which assuming demand is falling then production gets reduced for whichever product is lower in demand. 

haha

Oil is Oil?

ah, no. 

Edited May 10 by John Stone

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If butter was 12 dollars a lb i'd call it very expensive but i could still afford it.

Thanks for making my point. You might be able to afford it but a lot of people couldn't.