Goober National Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 Comedians on the left are having a lot of fun mocking Trump by insinuating his death would be a wonderful thing for the world. Trump has had three assassination attempts so far. At this rate, very likely more to come. So the question is, is it moral or ethical to laugh and mock at the idea of the death of someone. Is it illegal, and if not, is it unethical. If so, what to do about it. My view is that any jokes leveling criticism at the president or government are fair game, but publicly expressing glee at the idea he might be dead soon needs to be repudiated. Kimmel should be censored for doing it. 2 Quote
herbie Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 No, your silly political system means JD Vance would be President and he's an equally useless twat. Quote
Barquentine Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 9 hours ago, Goober National said: publicly expressing glee at the idea he might be dead soon Can you quote where he "expressed glee at the idea he might be dead soon"? Meanwhile: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/21/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-insensitive-comments For years, President Donald Trump has offered crass and insensitive comments about people who died — especially his foes. But on Saturday, he explicitly celebrated the death of former FBI Director Robert Mueller, writing, “Good, I’m glad he’s dead.” 2 1 Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 (edited) 9 hours ago, Goober National said: Comedians on the left are having a lot of fun mocking Trump by insinuating his death would be a wonderful thing for the world. Trump has had three assassination attempts so far. At this rate, very likely more to come. So the question is, is it moral or ethical to laugh and mock at the idea of the death of someone. Is it illegal, and if not, is it unethical. If so, what to do about it. My view is that any jokes leveling criticism at the president or government are fair game, but publicly expressing glee at the idea he might be dead soon needs to be repudiated. Kimmel should be censored for doing it. ........... let the jury of public opinion decide.............. not a fascist with a proven agenda of routinely attempting to silence not only deserved ridicule but all criticism. The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech................ Believe 'bone spurs' celebrated the death of Robert Mueller? Edited May 4 by John Stone Quote
John Johnston Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 10 hours ago, Goober National said: Comedians on the left are having a lot of fun mocking Trump by insinuating his death would be a wonderful thing for the world. Trump has had three assassination attempts so far. At this rate, very likely more to come. So the question is, is it moral or ethical to laugh and mock at the idea of the death of someone. Is it illegal, and if not, is it unethical. If so, what to do about it. My view is that any jokes leveling criticism at the president or government are fair game, but publicly expressing glee at the idea he might be dead soon needs to be repudiated. Kimmel should be censored for doing it. Trump mocks himself. Nobody cares about the fool. Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 3 hours ago, John Johnston said: Trump mocks himself. Nobody cares about the fool. Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: Oh no! I saw some sea shells! .................. haha ....... DOJ acting independently, eh Ghislaine 🤪 Quote
TreeBeard Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 It’s not funny, but it would solve a lot of problems. 1 Quote
Goober National Posted May 13 Author Report Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: It’s not funny, but it would solve a lot of problems. It would probably create a lot of violence actually. Civil war, or even WW3. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 3 hours ago, Goober National said: It would probably create a lot of violence actually. Civil war, or even WW3. What would? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
John Johnston Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 4 hours ago, TreeBeard said: It’s not funny, but it would solve a lot of problems. True. But the world does not need anymore misguided Matryrs. Quote
John Johnston Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 I guess it's ok for Diaper Don to mock the death of a retired FBI Director though. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 13 Report Posted May 13 On 5/4/2026 at 4:37 AM, John Stone said: ........... let the jury of public opinion decide.............. not a fascist with a proven agenda of routinely attempting to silence not only deserved ridicule but all criticism. The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech................ Believe 'bone spurs' celebrated the death of Robert Mueller? But didn't encourage it beforehand. And that's a big difference You may not like the guy but you really want to normalize the idea that it's okay to kill a president just because you don't like them? What effect do you think that'll have on the future? 24 minutes ago, John Johnston said: I guess it's ok for Diaper Don to mock the death of a retired FBI Director though. Mocking a death, as tasteless and ignorant is I find it, he's not the same as encouraging the idea that the man should be dead beforehand. Surely you don't need me to explain that in detail. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Goober National Posted May 14 Author Report Posted May 14 6 hours ago, John Johnston said: I guess it's ok for Diaper Don to mock the death of a retired FBI Director though. He was already dead. No one was calling for him to be killed, right? Of course not. That is only done by tyrannical maniacs like the Ayatollahs, and apparently you guys. Quote
TreeBeard Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 47 minutes ago, Goober National said: He was already dead. No one was calling for him to be killed, right? Of course not. That is only done by tyrannical maniacs like the Ayatollahs, and apparently you guys. It shouldn’t happen. But if it does, it’s ok. 1 Quote
John Stone Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: But didn't encourage it beforehand. And that's a big difference You may not like the guy but you really want to normalize the idea that it's okay to kill a president just because you don't like them? What effect do you think that'll have on the future? Mocking a death, as tasteless and ignorant is I find it, he's not the same as encouraging the idea that the man should be dead beforehand. Surely you don't need me to explain that in detail. Trump himself openly disrespects the dead, from war heroes to presidents to private citizens whose families grieved in public. His comments re: Mueller are so far beneath what is expected from a President, that it belies belief. Those who use this type of hateful rhetoric against others should surely expect to fall victim to the same. As far as Kimmel goes, his comments were in poor taste .......... Trump exploited it ruthlessly and tastelessly - few (MAGA notwithstanding) believes his outrage was genuine. The extent to which Trump pursued retribution against Kimmel and ABS is not only unworthy of the office he holds but an attack on the 1st amendment. Trumps vitriol though wasn't so much an attack against Kimmel / ABS but more a warning to others - intimidation? As far as Kimmel is concerned? Let the public decide - I believe the polls were evenly split............ and let ABS decide as a business decision and not be influenced by intimidation tactics coming from the PRESIDENT as a political tactic. Imagine if FDR had taken to the airwaves during the (WWII) Battle of the Bulge to complain about LIttle Orphan Annie comic strip he didn't like? Trump has (arguably) three wars going on right now: Iran, Ukrainians .............and comics! 😁 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 4 hours ago, John Stone said: Trump himself openly disrespects the dead, That's extremely dishonest of you. It's in bad taste to disrespect the dead But it is 100,000 times better than encouraging people to kill someone. And I was very clear about that and your dodging that issue which tells me you know you're wrong and that what you're talking about is just pure evil but you're desperately trying to protect your tribe. If you have to lie to make your point but you haven't got a very good point. And you don't have a very good point. There's nothing remotely similar liking someone who died and encouraging someone to be killed. Democrats on the left have become the party of violence and intolerance and we need no more proof than your reply. You should be deeply ashamed Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's extremely dishonest of you. It's in bad taste to disrespect the dead But it is 100,000 times better than encouraging people to kill someone. And I was very clear about that and your dodging that issue which tells me you know you're wrong and that what you're talking about is just pure evil but you're desperately trying to protect your tribe. If you have to lie to make your point but you haven't got a very good point. And you don't have a very good point. There's nothing remotely similar liking someone who died and encouraging someone to be killed. Democrats on the left have become the party of violence and intolerance and we need no more proof than your reply. You should be deeply ashamed What is dishonest of me ............... Accusing Trump of disrespecting the dead? 😁 Disregarding a grieving family? 😨 Come now, ur hypothetical accusation of encouraging someone to kill ......... and Trumps factual performance are totally at odds - fact over fiction .... assumption? I'll completely overlook the fact that Trump represents the office of the President and as such represents the most powerful country on the planet? Kimmel? Not so much? Hate speech? Trump is the personification! 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 31 minutes ago, John Stone said: What is dishonest of me ............... I've told you several times. So even this reply is dishonest because you know exactly what I'm talking about Conflating not being sad because someone died with openly advocating for their death as being the same thing is beyond dishonest "I'm glad he's dead" Is not the same as "I hope someone kills him". Those two are not the same thing. So you're being extremely dishonest and it's proof that you know that you're in the wrong. The left is all about violence and hatred these days and your living proof Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I've told you several times. So even this reply is dishonest because you know exactly what I'm talking about Conflating not being sad because someone died with openly advocating for their death as being the same thing is beyond dishonest "I'm glad he's dead" Is not the same as "I hope someone kills him". Those two are not the same thing. So you're being extremely dishonest and it's proof that you know that you're in the wrong. The left is all about violence and hatred these days and your living proof "I hope someone kills him"? or did Kimmel describe Melania Trump as, 'glowing like an expectant widow"? Big difference? On the other hand ......... "Robert Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead," Trump wrote, adding, "He can no longer hurt innocent people!" Being an agnostic appeals to me BTW - less tribal in belief and support. 😁 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 1 hour ago, John Stone said: "I hope someone kills him"? or did Kimmel describe Melania Trump as, 'glowing like an expectant widow"? The same thing. With the second one he suggesting that someone would be happy and that it would be right and proper for him to be dead It's very clearly the same thing. Anybody trying to claim differently is being a dishonest twat. Don't waste my time with such childishness 1 hour ago, John Stone said: Big difference? None at all. If I say gosh wouldn't People be happier if you were dead there's no difference between that and saying someone should kill you. It's well over a line 1 hour ago, John Stone said: "Robert Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead," Bad taste but it's not advocating for anything. He's not suggesting that someone should kill Robert, Robert is already dead. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. When millions of democrats cheered and wrote happy little songs about the death of Charlie Kirk I said it was in horrible taste and they should be ashamed but I never said that they should be arrested. But if somebody is advocating even an indirect fashion that somebody else should be killed and violation of the law then that is not okay. Elementary school children would understand this. Let's not pretend that you are struggling with the concept. You're trying to defend your tribe and it's absolutely abhorrent. There is some behavior that you should speak out against even if it's being done by a group that you like Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 1 hour ago, John Stone said: "I hope someone kills him"? or did Kimmel describe Melania Trump as, 'glowing like an expectant widow"? Big difference? On the other hand ......... "Robert Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead," Trump wrote, adding, "He can no longer hurt innocent people!" Being an agnostic appeals to me BTW - less tribal in belief and support. 😁 Oh and by the way as an aside, not long ago it was reported here that former President Biden was sick and may die of his illness shortly. A handful of people here made jokes about how it couldn't happen to a nicer guy etc and myself and a number of others specifically stated that it was not okay to wish death on someone just because we don't like them and that was by disease not murder. And the joke stopped immediately and everyone agreed So it's not like there isn't a history already of conservatives and specifically right leaning people on this very forum stepping up and saying it's not okay to even wish death on a president's never mind suggest that it's okay to kill them Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 (edited) 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Oh and by the way as an aside, not long ago it was reported here that former President Biden was sick and may die of his illness shortly. A handful of people here made jokes about how it couldn't happen to a nicer guy etc and myself and a number of others specifically stated that it was not okay to wish death on someone just because we don't like them and that was by disease not murder. And the joke stopped immediately and everyone agreed So it's not like there isn't a history already of conservatives and specifically right leaning people on this very forum stepping up and saying it's not okay to even wish death on a president's never mind suggest that it's okay to kill them Biden died years ago. 😁 I'm not the pres? Edited May 14 by John Stone Quote
John Stone Posted May 14 Report Posted May 14 24 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The same thing. With the second one he suggesting that someone would be happy and that it would be right and proper for him to be dead It's very clearly the same thing. Anybody trying to claim differently is being a dishonest twat. Don't waste my time with such childishness None at all. If I say gosh wouldn't People be happier if you were dead there's no difference between that and saying someone should kill you. It's well over a line Bad taste but it's not advocating for anything. He's not suggesting that someone should kill Robert, Robert is already dead. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. When millions of democrats cheered and wrote happy little songs about the death of Charlie Kirk I said it was in horrible taste and they should be ashamed but I never said that they should be arrested. But if somebody is advocating even an indirect fashion that somebody else should be killed and violation of the law then that is not okay. Elementary school children would understand this. Let's not pretend that you are struggling with the concept. You're trying to defend your tribe and it's absolutely abhorrent. There is some behavior that you should speak out against even if it's being done by a group that you like 24 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The same thing. With the second one he suggesting that someone would be happy and that it would be right and proper for him to be dead It's very clearly the same thing. Anybody trying to claim differently is being a dishonest twat. Don't waste my time with such childishness None at all. If I say gosh wouldn't People be happier if you were dead there's no difference between that and saying someone should kill you. It's well over a line Bad taste but it's not advocating for anything. He's not suggesting that someone should kill Robert, Robert is already dead. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. When millions of democrats cheered and wrote happy little songs about the death of Charlie Kirk I said it was in horrible taste and they should be ashamed but I never said that they should be arrested. But if somebody is advocating even an indirect fashion that somebody else should be killed and violation of the law then that is not okay. Elementary school children would understand this. Let's not pretend that you are struggling with the concept. You're trying to defend your tribe and it's absolutely abhorrent. There is some behavior that you should speak out against even if it's being done by a group that you like Kimmel didn't advocate for anyone to murder Trump .................. 'glowing like an expectant widow' is NOT advocating murder. Sorry counselor, wouldn't hold up under cross. 😁 Elementary school children would understand this! 🙄 Quote
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