gatomontes99 Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 Psychiatric Morbidity Among Adolescents and Young Adults Who Contacted Specialised Gender Identity Services in Finland in 1996–2019: A Register Study Gender-referred adolescents showed significantly higher psychiatric morbidity than controls both before (45.7% vs. 15.0%) and ≥ 2 years after referral (61.7% vs. 14.6%). Those referred after 2010 had greater psychiatric needs than earlier cohorts, both before (47.9% vs. 15.3%) and ≥ 2 years after (61.3% vs. 14.2%) referral. Among adolescents who underwent medical gender reassignment, psychiatric morbidity increased markedly during follow-up—rising from 9.8% to 60.7% in feminising gender reassignment and from 21.6% to 54.5% in masculinising gender reassignment. After adjusting for prior psychiatric treatment, all gender-referred adolescents had similarly elevated risks of psychiatric morbidity, with hazard ratios approximately three times higher than female controls and five times higher than male controls. ********** This study reinforces what I have always said. Trans people have a mental health issue, that is why their suicide rate is so high before surgery. This also shows that the left's, feel-good, let-them-do-what-they want approach is devastatingly bad. Six in ten committing suicide is far beyond unacceptable. The one in ten suicide rate is way beyond acceptable. Can we finally start dealing with this issue the way it needs to be dealt with? 2 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted April 15 Author Report Posted April 15 52 minutes ago, John Stone said: Lets cut to the chase, society is to blame. No. The left is to blame. Your incessant need to accept the perverse led you to promote "treatments" that drastically increased suicide rates and then foolishly attacked anyone that pointed out what a bad idea that was. This stands as more proof that the left is just a bunch of children that should never be allowed to run a lemonade stand, much less a government entity. 2 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No. The left is to blame. Your incessant need to accept the perverse led you to promote "treatments" that drastically increased suicide rates and then foolishly attacked anyone that pointed out what a bad idea that was. This stands as more proof that the left is just a bunch of children that should never be allowed to run a lemonade stand, much less a government entity. ..............definitely missed the sarcasm dint ya? If I was anything I'd lean center Right ...................... not like the mindless moreons, beginning at the top, that have highjacked what was once a GRAND old political ideology. So, tell me, are you one of those mindless high jacking moreons................... destructively partisan.......that cant get enough Kool-Aid? Quote
Deluge Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 40 minutes ago, John Stone said: ..............definitely missed the sarcasm dint ya? Sorry Juan, but you're too far left to be slinging jokes. Everything that comes from your keyboard has to be treated with hostility because you are left. I'm sorry. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 47 minutes ago, John Stone said: ..............definitely missed the sarcasm dint ya? If I was anything I'd lean center Right ...................... not like the mindless moreons, beginning at the top, that have highjacked what was once a GRAND old political ideology. So, tell me, are you one of those mindless high jacking moreons................... destructively partisan.......that cant get enough Kool-Aid? Dude...of the 2 political sides, remind me, which one promoted this disgusting practice? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Dude...of the 2 political sides, remind me, which one promoted this disgusting practice? .............. dude, there are (3) political ideologies? One is riding on the other's back Quote
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 32 minutes ago, Deluge said: Sorry Juan, but you're too far left to be slinging jokes. Everything that comes from your keyboard has to be treated with hostility because you are left. I'm sorry. .......... don't be sorry, be repentant of ur consistently mediocre comments. 🤣 1 Quote
Deluge Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, John Stone said: .......... don't be sorry, be repentant of ur consistently mediocre comments. 🤣 Tell ya what: I'll repent if you admit that you use Tim Walz approved tampons. Deal? Quote
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: Tell ya what: I'll repent if you admit that you use Tim Walz approved tampons. Deal? ............ that talk likely gives u a pudgy! 😅 Quote
Deluge Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, John Stone said: ............ that talk likely gives u a pudgy! 😅 If I voted left, perhaps, but I'm not morally stunted, so it's impossible. Quote
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Deluge said: If I voted left, perhaps, but I'm not morally stunted, so it's impossible. .......... arguably to be morally stunted than perpetually stupid? Are u perpetual?😁 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 39 minutes ago, John Stone said: .............. dude, there are (3) political ideologies? One is riding on the other's back I see. So Democrats do not push this sick mutilation crap? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/only-four-democrats-vote-to-stop-taxpayer-funding-of-child-sex-changes-in-medicaid/ar-AA1SDdl7 Wow...I guess you're right. A whole 4 Democrats oppose child mutilation. Impressive. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Johnston Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, John Stone said: .......... arguably to be morally stunted than perpetually stupid? Are u perpetual?😁 😄 Quote
Deluge Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 32 minutes ago, John Stone said: .......... arguably to be morally stunted than perpetually stupid? Are u perpetual?😁 You're both. You're morally stunted and you're perpetually left. That is the worst combination in the history of bad combinations. Quote
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 42 minutes ago, Deluge said: You're both. You're morally stunted and you're perpetually left. That is the worst combination in the history of bad combinations. ........... try these, prob help with ur witty replies. bwahahahahahahha😁 1 Quote
Deluge Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 22 minutes ago, John Stone said: ........... try these, prob help with ur witty replies. bwahahahahahahha😁 Looks like a Juan Piedra special. Don't forget this: Quote
Venandi Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 (edited) Bottom line of the study: This underscores the need to thoroughly assess and appropriately treat mental disorders among those seeking GR before and after undergoing irreversible medical treatments. Psychiatric needs must be adequately met. That wasn't done... not by a long shot. And in the case of minors referred for life altering surgeries with potential suicide used as a hastener, history will be judging government measures and the supporters of this very harshly indeed. I don't get the oven mitt thing but before long the pom pom crowd will refuse to acknowledge their support and participation in a tragedy that's only now beginning to unfold. It's pretty hard to find defenders of eugenics, Japanese internment, residential schools and police defunding these days and this will be that before we know it. I already perceive that they're backing off on some previously popular talking points... it also seems like the ridicule they heaped on anyone who suggested that compassionate mental health care was appropriate has begun to subside as well. This charade won't last much longer, lawsuits are accumulating (about 30 now if memory serves) and the damage done is becoming measurable. The next talking point will be "that's old news, time to get over it." Some here will even add YUK YUKs and LOLs to it... right Chief? Edited April 15 by Venandi Quote
John Stone Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Looks like a Juan Piedra special. Don't forget this: .................... looks squeezed, dude? Quote
Nationalist Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 Well...guess this debate is over. Once again...time reveals the truth. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 This study is an interesting and potentially valuable data point. It has a place alongside the rest of the academic and scientific work on this subject. What's more interesting is the reaction to it in this thread. The confirmation bias is off the charts! If you guys had this much interest (and immediate, unwavering confidence) in scientific research as a whole, we would have already reversed climate change! Alas, it's not the silver bullet you're looking for to confirm your social agenda. 1. It's one study in one system. 2. It's talking about comorbidities, and correlation rather than causation. 3. The takeaway is NOT that gender dysphoria is a mental health disorder. That's simply not what the research says. It says that the psychological comorbidities often worsen even after dysphoria treatment. That gender transition isn't going to fix other co-existing issues and are risk youth should prioritize mental health care to curb suicide. (That gender reassignment is not a magic bullet for mental health problems. 4. This study expands on research from the same team on the same data set (they've published a series) that found that gender dysphoria was not correlated with suicide. Their 2024 study Conclusions Clinical gender dysphoria does not appear to be predictive of all-cause nor suicide mortality when psychiatric treatment history is accounted for. This latest release is digging into the clinical implications of that one. (Same data set.) Not contradicting it. Their takeaway is that we shouldn't expect gender transition to bring down the suicide rate. Rather, those comorbidities must be addressed separately. So you're half right. Kids who need mental health intervention will still need it, regardless of transition. But it DOES NOT indicate that gender dysphoria should not be treated through transition. Quote
User Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 3 hours ago, Hodad said: So you're half right. Kids who need mental health intervention will still need it, regardless of transition. But it DOES NOT indicate that gender dysphoria should not be treated through transition. Sure... except for that people like you use suicide as the leverage to lie to these kids and parents to get them to transition. OMG DO YOU WANT YOUR KID TO BE DEAD OR TRANSITION!!!!!!! You are sick evil butchers who only want to expand and further your LGBTQ club, not protect these kids who need help with their mental issues. Quote
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