Nationalist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, John Stone said: ........... do ur homework .......... its as obvious as the nose on ur face Good question ........... as much as I respect Israel they are a regional power, no oil, cold war is over, no strategic value? The US is (was) a global power? The US still is a global power. If they act wisely in the next few years, they can maintain that power. But these senseless wars ain'-a helpin'. Edited April 12 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 8 minutes ago, John Stone said: Trump is killing the golden goose (tariffs) ............. the U.S. share of global commerce. The U.S. economy is based on consumerism (domestic purchasing) - not manufacturing - never to return - too expensive. Aggressive tariffs have not killed any of this for us, though. These things are like small rudder adjustments on a gigantic ship meant to achieve both economic and other diplomatic means around the globe. It is not a net loss when weighed against other desired outcomes. I don't even agree with much of the craziness nor that the President really has that power or should either. 8 minutes ago, John Stone said: ........... do ur homework .......... its as obvious as the nose on ur face Very little of your assertions on here are obvious on their face. You and others just assert BS on here all the time and then run when challenged, just like you are doing now. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, User said: An Iran with no Nuclear weapons, no capability to make them, and no aspirations to do so either... as well as a severely weakened Iran that is much less of a threat looming over our Middle East allies, ourselves, and interests in that region, and Israel. Huh...ya...not buyin' it. A nuke threat to Isreal maybe. But were I a bettin' man...I'd put money on Isreal using their non-existent nukes first. Edited April 12 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 minute ago, User said: Aggressive tariffs have not killed any of this for us, though. These things are like small rudder adjustments on a gigantic ship meant to achieve both economic and other diplomatic means around the globe. It is not a net loss when weighed against other desired outcomes. I don't even agree with much of the craziness nor that the President really has that power or should either. Very little of your assertions on here are obvious on their face. You and others just assert BS on here all the time and then run when challenged, just like you are doing now. The American population would disagree with you - start with the price of fuel A Tariff is a tax on consumers? Domestic consumers? It generates counter-tariffs, US exports get more expensive and/or are reduced. By extension it raises inflation. Inflation is bad, bad, BAD! Trump introduced broad based Tariffs as a form of intimidation The World ain't buying ............. literally. Quote
User Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Huh...ya...not buyin' it. A nuke threat to Isreal maybe. But were I a bettin' man...I'd put money on Isreal using their non-existent nukes first. Yes, I get it, you have some kind of disdain for Israel, that you don't even give a crap if Iran has a looming Nuclear threat over them. Still doesn't change the objective facts I laid out or that you ignored Iran's regional terror threat. Quote
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Huh...ya...not buyin' it. A nuke threat to Isreal maybe. But were I a bettin' man...I'd put money on Isreal using their non-existent nukes first. Indeed..................... ala 3rd strike if necessary. Here's a secret ............ Israel's ICBMs can reach out to 12K - no defense .......... don't tell anyone..... The fear is nuke proliferation in the most strategic area on the planet. (energy) Edited April 12 by John Stone Quote
User Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 minute ago, John Stone said: The American population would disagree with you - start with the price of fuel A Tariff is a tax on consumers? Domestic consumers? It generates counter-tariffs, US exports get more expensive and/or are reduced. By extension it raises inflation. Inflation is bad, bad, BAD! Trump introduced broad based Tariffs as a form of intimidation The World ain't buying ............. literally. I am not interested in your silly arguments about popularity. That is the refuge of someone unable to articulate and stand behind their own positions objectively. The argument was not about if a Tariff is a tax or not or its impacts on inflation. You are just throwing mud at the wall now. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 Iran doesn't appear to be too worried. Trump does though... Maybe he should look at changing up his negotiators? This nepotism thing with Kushner and friend deal he's got with Witcoff doesn't seem to be working. Quote
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Iran doesn't appear to be too worried. Trump does though... Maybe he should look at changing up his negotiators? This nepotism thing with Kushner and friend deal he's got with Witcoff doesn't seem to be working. hoping for a good outcome, but the US cadre negotiators are amateurs ............ and they're playing with experts Akin to Trump and Putin.............. I'd say that was funny but it is far more embarrassing. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, John Stone said: hoping for a good outcome, but the US cadre negotiators are amateurs ............ and they're playing with experts Akin to Trump and Putin.............. I'd say that was funny but it is far more embarrassing. The entire US administration are amateurs... trying to play experts. Good call on that one... spot on! They have Trump by the short hairs but good, and pulling harder today. Ouch!! Quote
User Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Iran doesn't appear to be too worried. Trump does though... Maybe he should look at changing up his negotiators? This nepotism thing with Kushner and friend deal he's got with Witcoff doesn't seem to be working. You are making the black knight's argument for the black knight... 8 minutes ago, John Stone said: hoping for a good outcome, but the US cadre negotiators are amateurs ............ and they're playing with experts Akin to Trump and Putin.............. I'd say that was funny but it is far more embarrassing. Playing with experts? Who are these experts in Iran you claim are experts? The leadership has been killed repeatedly... they are sending in what is left. The fact that someone is obstinate in their refusal doesn't make them an expert. Quote
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: The entire US administration are amateurs... trying to play experts. Good call on that one... spot on! They have Trump by the short hairs but good, and pulling harder today. Ouch!! I'm more concerned about the World ............. Trump will do fine ............ he really doesn't give a fk! If he's worried about anything it would be his legacy. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 26 minutes ago, User said: Yes, I get it, you have some kind of disdain for Israel, that you don't even give a crap if Iran has a looming Nuclear threat over them. Still doesn't change the objective facts I laid out or that you ignored Iran's regional terror threat. Isn't Isreal alooming nuclear threat to the Middle East? Yup. They are. One might call Iran getting nukes...leveling the playing field? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 39 minutes ago, John Stone said: Indeed..................... ala 3rd strike if necessary. Here's a secret ............ Israel's ICBMs can reach out to 12K - no defense .......... don't tell anyone..... The fear is nuke proliferation in the most strategic area on the planet. (energy) So...get the Isrealis to give up theirs and the place is nuke-free. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 21 minutes ago, John Stone said: I'm more concerned about the World ............. Trump will do fine ............ he really doesn't give a fk! If he's worried about anything it would be his legacy. I think his legacy is mostly written.... and guessing there will be more shame to write about before he's done. This will get sorted out at some point soon (?), but the world is going to be feeling it for a lot longer. SOR's for the 'haves' are being depleted while those most reliant of oil are hurting. Well played Trump... Quote
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I think his legacy is mostly written.... and guessing there will be more shame to write about before he's done. This will get sorted out at some point soon (?), but the world is going to be feeling it for a lot longer. SOR's for the 'haves' are being depleted while those most reliant of oil are hurting. Well played Trump... Suppose the Left shares some of the blame (Biden). Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 Just now, John Stone said: Suppose the Left shares some of the blame (Biden). I'm on the left side of the fence but you won't hear me praising Biden... Thought he was weaker president but also thought he had some class and morals, which is missing today. Quote
I am Groot Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: The American economy was built on manufacturing and innovation. Both of which they gave up. To China. Much as we did. Much as Europe did. Dumb move. And then we doubled down on it with this net zero bullshit that is making energy so expensive in the West and driving yet more industry to China (and India and other 3rd world countries). Him wanting to bring industry back is one of the areas I agree with Trump on, that and immigration and fighting the 'woke'. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 41 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Isn't Isreal alooming nuclear threat to the Middle East? Yup. They are. One might call Iran getting nukes...leveling the playing field? Israel is a sane, western country. Iran is run by a deathcult. Not the same thing. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I'm on the left side of the fence but you won't hear me praising Biden... Thought he was weaker president but also thought he had some class and morals, which is missing today. ............. he was a sock-puppet ......... the political machine convinced him that he should go for a second bite - it was a conspiracy - the Left thought it would be a slam dunk against Trump - he could resign and Harris would assume the mantle. When Biden's backers was convinced he was a losing gambit a primary could still have been held - Harris would have lost (the primary)....... Trump would have lost as well. Trump was facing an existential threat in 2024 - the stakes were HUGE for Trump - he was facing jail time. (Dem pardon notwithstanding) The guy, his family and those surrounding him are corrupt to a degree that makes a political hack blush. The so-called cabinet are positively scary with their incompetence and the degree to which they kiss the ring. They are a national embarrassment .................. but they are rich and don't care. I figure the only way for the GOP to regain their backbone is to be in opposition - House, Senate and Executive. How ironic, Left-(tard) ideology being the saviour of what once was a proud party. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, John Stone said: ............. he was a sock-puppet ......... the political machine convinced him that he should go for a second bite - it was a conspiracy - the Left thought it would be a slam dunk against Trump - he could resign and Harris would assume the mantle. When Biden's backers was convinced he was a losing gambit a primary could still have been held - Harris would have lost (the primary)....... Trump would have lost as well. Trump was facing an existential threat in 2024 - the stakes were HUGE for Trump - he was facing jail time. (Dem pardon notwithstanding) The guy, his family and those surrounding him are corrupt to a degree that makes a political hack blush. The so-called cabinet are positively scary with their incompetence and the degree to which they kiss the ring. They are a national embarrassment .................. but they are rich and don't care. I figure the only way for the GOP to regain their backbone is to be in opposition - House, Senate and Executive. How ironic, Left-(tard) ideology being the saviour of what once was a proud party. I agree with that.... but here we are in the midst of his second term with one misdeed after another. Sad part is 'that's it's just another day' and nobody pays much attention to it. Hopefully this bad movie is over before the next federal election... Quote
John Stone Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: I agree with that.... but here we are in the midst of his second term with one misdeed after another. Sad part is 'that's it's just another day' and nobody pays much attention to it. Hopefully this bad movie is over before the next federal election... ............. likely the mid-terms will be a malaise ..as designed. The Speaker will play a key role in giving Trump the win. Quote
User Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Isn't Isreal alooming nuclear threat to the Middle East? Yup. They are. One might call Iran getting nukes...leveling the playing field? Well, at least you are being more honest now, you clearly oppose Israel and cheer on Iran. Quote
User Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I think his legacy is mostly written.... and guessing there will be more shame to write about before he's done. This will get sorted out at some point soon (?), but the world is going to be feeling it for a lot longer. SOR's for the 'haves' are being depleted while those most reliant of oil are hurting. Well played Trump... Oh man, I thought it was Trump who they had by the short hairs. Now you are complaining about the world having issues? Maybe they should do something. 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I'm on the left side of the fence but you won't hear me praising Biden... Thought he was weaker president but also thought he had some class and morals, which is missing today. Is it class and morals to stay in office when you are not mentally fit? 1 Quote
robosmith Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 5 hours ago, paxamericana said: Anything that threatens the petrol dollar is a threat to America and warrant overwhelming force. Says a true ^FASCIST Quote
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