Private health care?

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

When that unemployed hang-about 'street person' has had two dozen call-outs with ambulance and medical care for his/her overdose crisis and gets top-billing treatment in the Emergency ward, and grandpa who's worked/paid taxes dies waiting for an ambulance/medical help . . . you know there's something really fk'd in this country.

I suspected it was fùcked when the fish and trees started running out decades ago.

What you just described merely confirms it.

[John Stone]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I suspected it was fùcked when the fish and trees started running out decades ago.

What you just described merely confirms it.

Ya think health care is fk'd in Kanada........... take a look at the U.S.

Over 10 percent of the population is without any health insurance.

The majority are one illness away from insolvency. 

Trump just introduced a 'means' test for Medicaid.........

Meanwhile a request for 1.5 trillion for defense is requested. 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, John Stone said:

Ya think health care is fk'd in Kanada........... take a look at the U.S.

It's sustainability that's fùcked. And yes it's worse in the US.

2 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Over 10 percent of the population is without any health insurance.

The majority are one illness away from insolvency. 

Trump just introduced a 'means' test for Medicaid.........

Meanwhile a request for 1.5 trillion for defense is requested. 

You haven't seen anything yet.

[John Stone]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's sustainability that's fùcked. And yes it's worse in the US.

You haven't seen anything yet.

.............. worse and get'n worser - hospital closures, 'means' tests. 

 

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, John Stone said:

.............. worse and get'n worser - hospital closures, 'means' tests.

Yup, just like everything else.

[August1991]

On 5/2/2026 at 2:18 PM, herbie said:

Irrelevant.
You do not pay here.

If you simply don't want to wait, no one is stopping you from going to the USA or even India if you wish to. Two different things. And completely ignore those who can't pay.

Herbie,

What is the cost of an MRI in the US?

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Gemini:

MRI scans in the USA typically cost between $400 and $12,000, with an average of about $1,325 to $2,600, depending on the body part, facility type, and insurance coverage. Freestanding imaging centers are significantly cheaper ($650 avg.)

 

[User]

11 hours ago, John Stone said:

Ya think health care is fk'd in Kanada........... take a look at the U.S.

Over 10 percent of the population is without any health insurance.

The majority are one illness away from insolvency. 

Trump just introduced a 'means' test for Medicaid.........

Meanwhile a request for 1.5 trillion for defense is requested. 

Once again... the ignorance of your posts knows no bounds. 

Yeah... 10% do not have insurance... and that sucks, but the vast majority are insured and get good health care. Instead of tearing the whole system down, we could focus on how to help the circumstances of those who do not have insurance and improve the system so they could afford it. 

You leftists are not interested in that. 

You already made things worse with Obamacare and if it was so damn great, why is anyone still not insured? 

 

[John Stone]

8 hours ago, User said:

Once again... the ignorance of your posts knows no bounds. 

Yeah... 10% do not have insurance... and that sucks, but the vast majority are insured and get good health care. Instead of tearing the whole system down, we could focus on how to help the circumstances of those who do not have insurance and improve the system so they could afford it. 

You leftists are not interested in that. 

You already made things worse with Obamacare and if it was so damn great, why is anyone still not insured? 

 

 

ACA was primarily designed to make health insurance more affordable and by extension, accessible to tens of millions of Americans.

I think ur confusing it with Universal Health Care – like the Kanadian’s enjoy – warts and all.

ACA rollout dropped the uninsured to a mere 26 million???

Richest country (debt / deficit notwithstanding) in the World – 26 million??

Shame!

Oh, forgot, Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill will introduce a ‘means’ test for Medicaid recipients in addition to increasing the debt by over 4 trillion.

 

A means test is a formula that uses someone's income to determine their eligibility for assistance or benefits. Trump's is on  steroids. 

 

 

Edited May 5 by John Stone

[User]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

 

ACA was primarily designed to make health insurance more affordable and by extension, accessible to tens of millions of Americans.

I think ur confusing it with Universal Health Care – like the Kanadian’s enjoy – warts and all.

ACA rollout dropped the uninsured to a mere 26 million???

Richest country (debt / deficit notwithstanding) in the World – 26 million??

Shame!

Oh, forgot, Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill will introduce a ‘means’ test for Medicaid recipients in addition to increasing the debt by over 4 trillion.

 

A means test is a formula that uses someone's income to determine their eligibility for assistance or benefits. Trump's is on  steroids. 

 

 

Wow… so cheap and affordable that 10% of the population chooses not to buy it?

yes, the point of Medicaid is to exist for those who need it, not to be universal health care. 

Edited May 5 by User

[John Stone]

49 minutes ago, User said:

Wow… so cheap and affordable that 10% of the population chooses not to buy it?

yes, the point of Medicaid is to exist for those who need it, not to be universal health care. 

even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues,😁

Try to keep up, dude! 🙄

[User]

49 minutes ago, John Stone said:

even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues,😁

Try to keep up, dude! 🙄

As usual, you espouse ignorance and then obfuscate to avoid owning up to it when called out. 

[John Stone]

Just now, User said:

As usual, you espouse ignorance and then obfuscate to avoid owning up to it when called out. 

I'm not  responsible for ur lack of comprehension. 😁

......... one syllable works best for u, dude.  😄

 

[User]

Just now, John Stone said:

I'm not  responsible for ur lack of comprehension. 😁

......... one syllable works best for u, dude.  😄

 

You are responsible for not actually responding to the points I made and instead responding like you are…

 

[John Stone]

21 minutes ago, User said:

You are responsible for not actually responding to the points I made and instead responding like you are…

 

 

22 minutes ago, User said:

You are responsible for not actually responding to the points I made and instead responding like you are…

 

.............. u flatter urself with ur assertion that u 'make points' - too funny, dude😄

U rarely make 'points' and when u attempt it, they don't make any sense. 

remember, one syllable works best for ya. 

[User]

4 minutes ago, John Stone said:

 

.............. u flatter urself with ur assertion that u 'make points' - too funny, dude😄

U rarely make 'points' and when u attempt it, they don't make any sense. 

remember, one syllable works best for ya. 

Same old stupid leftist tactics on this forum. Now you just want to quibble about nothing because you can’t defend your ignorant comments on an actual subject… like how if Obamacare made healthcare so affordable why are all these people not buying it? 

[John Stone]

20 minutes ago, User said:

Same old stupid leftist tactics on this forum. Now you just want to quibble about nothing because you can’t defend your ignorant comments on an actual subject… like how if Obamacare made healthcare so affordable why are all these people not buying it? 

As of last year, 88 percent of enrollment growth in the ACA marketplace – since 2020 (13 million) occurred in states Trump won in 2024! (KFF – KFF is the independent source for health policy research, polling and journalism) 

ACA was never designed to become Universal Health Care. 

[herbie]

15 hours ago, August1991 said:

MRI scans in the USA typically cost between $400 and $12,000, with an average of about $1,325 to $2,600

And when the wife was suffering cancer treatment she had TWO, For $0.00
Like when I had CAT scans, surgery, four nights in hospital and it cost only $21 dispensing fee at the local pharmacy for follow up meds.

Not that I totally oppose some private services. I paid $750 for a laser surgery back when that wasn't recognized by the govt. The official practice was multiple surgeries  with Drs available only iin Vancouver 1,999 km away. I keep thinking how if they'd paid that $750 when I was first diagnosed, I would've styed at the job I had and the govt would've scooped over a million more dollars in income tax off me over the years.
The wife also went to a sleep apnea clinic covered by her extended medical. Something like that would be a waste of govt spending.

 

[User]

26 minutes ago, John Stone said:

As of last year, 88 percent of enrollment growth in the ACA marketplace – since 2020 (13 million) occurred in states Trump won in 2024! (KFF – KFF is the independent source for health policy research, polling and journalism) 

ACA was never designed to become Universal Health Care. 

Thanks for not responding to the point and giving me irrelevant information. 

If ACA is so affordable then why do those 10% not buy into it?

 

[John Stone]

19 hours ago, User said:

Thanks for not responding to the point and giving me irrelevant information. 

If ACA is so affordable then why do those 10% not buy into it?

 

q

 

19 hours ago, User said:

Thanks for not responding to the point and giving me irrelevant information. 

If ACA is so affordable then why do those 10% not buy into it?

 

...........likely for the same reason u eat out of a dumpster  every day. 😁

[User]

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

..........likely for the same reason u eat out of a dumpster  every day. 😁

Run away little man, run. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

No sensible health economist in Canada is calling for us to adopt private care uncritically. We can bring it in without letting costs become way too much. Obviously, in medicine the knowledge gap between buyer and seller of services is particular large and opportunities for abuse abound. We will need to rigorously police the cost of care and make sure it is medically necessary. 

[August1991]

On 5/5/2026 at 1:12 PM, herbie said:

And when the wife was suffering cancer treatment she had TWO, For $0.00
Like when I had CAT scans, surgery, four nights in hospital and it cost only $21 dispensing fee at the local pharmacy for follow up meds.

Not that I totally oppose some private services. I paid $750 for a laser surgery back when that wasn't recognized by the govt.

....

Herbie, how long did she wait for the first scan?

Our current health system is based on triage. But such a system can be gamed.

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Heck, maybe Saskatchewan is a high trust society (like Tommy Douglas).

Canada is no longer such.

 

[herbie]

51 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Herbie, how long did she wait for the first scan?

The morning after they first suspected. The 2nd a day after that. Other people wait because patients are triaged. You don't wait if it's life and death.
I just heard on the radio talk show how some guy had a 5 year waiting list for knee replacement. The host didn't even call him for that bullshit. Acted like he believed the ass

 

[User]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

The morning after they first suspected. The 2nd a day after that. Other people wait because patients are triaged. You don't wait if it's life and death.
I just heard on the radio talk show how some guy had a 5 year waiting list for knee replacement. The host didn't even call him for that bullshit. Acted like he believed the ass

 

It is still outrageous that there is an average wait of almost 6 months, and your response is so what. 

 

Edited May 7 by User

[herbie]

My response is NOT 'So what', that's something indicating you can't hear, learn or listen, only respond along your own predrawn conclusion. IOW you knowingly LIE to back up your argument.
We all wanr wait times reduced but LYING about them doesn't do anything positive whatsoever. Stealing every Doctor we can that is sick of your disgusting US excuse of a medical system does.

 

Edited May 7 by herbie