Donalds cognitive decline quickening

[WestCanMan]

Crakho: Trump bloviates every chance he gets. He doesn't shy away from reporters or tough questions. If he makes one gaffe every 5 weeks you put your PlaySkool stethoscope around your neck and play the role of Dr Ho.

By contrast, Biden's public appearances were limited to scripted appearances in ice cream shops, surrounded by paid actors, where he took one softball question and probably had to do multiple takes to finally generate an almost-coherent answer for it.

He fell up stairs and off bikes, he constantly lost his train of thought mid-sentence, forgot what city he was in, forgot people's names, talked to drapes, and was just a general disaster. 

If you're being honest, Biden was a hollowed-out, shambling mess, who was definitely wearing diapers for the last couple years.  

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes, you said: like we use it today. 

2. Yes, I am one. Conservatives appreciate institutions such as universities, the courts, scientific community. 

3. I'm okay with using the term woman as a social construct. Lots of conservatives are. 

Yes, we both seem to agree that words change. I think we both feel we should be able to fight for the meaning of words, figuratively of course. 

I'm a conservative Christian.  I will always call a trans woman by whatever pronouns she likes. 

I'm polite that way. 

Politeness is a conservative attribute also.

LOL, well, it all makes sense now. You are most definitely not a "Conservative" in the context you keep using it in, that being political discussions. 

This is the same dumb game folks like Robo play when they say ANTIFA is great, because they are Anti-Fascists and of course, who wouldn't be that and think that is OK. When in reality we are clearly talking about the anarchist/violent/law breaking leftist organization that merely calls themselves ANTIFA.

No, lots of Conservatives are not OK with using the term woman as a social construct, but regardless, of course you are. You are a culture warrior pushing your trans ideology. 

The issue is not what you do, its what you support pushing on everyone else to do. 

 

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm a conservative Christian. 

Considering the fact that a lot of your peers think that they're actual space monkeys, cats, rhododendrons and gazebos, identifying as a conservative Christian who wants to sit on Trudeau's lap is pretty sane.

[Michael Hardner]

40 minutes ago, User said:

1. You are most definitely not a "Conservative" in the context you keep using it in, that being political discussions. 

2. No, lots of Conservatives are not OK with using the term woman as a social construct, but regardless, of course you are.

3. You are a culture warrior pushing your trans ideology. 

4. The issue is not what you do, its what you support pushing on everyone else to do. 

 

1. Why ?  Because I don't hate science, universities, the courts, the police... ?
2. 3.  Lots are of major conservatives OK with it, yes.  If I think trans women deserve protection am I a 'culture warrior' ?
4. You play with the term 'pushing it'... just stop it.  You are pushing your labels on me, I'm using old and true definitions.  You think a conservative is a fat id1ot in a red hat, for example, then that's your business.

42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Considering the fact that a lot of your peers think that they're actual space monkeys, cats, rhododendrons and gazebos, identifying as a conservative Christian who wants to sit on Trudeau's lap is pretty sane.

Conservative Christians are monkeys ?  How DARE you sir ?

[CrakHoBarbie]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Yes it is, you being  a prime example.

Seems like there's a lack of oxygen on the high chair you're sitting on.

Awww...

You upset?

Im still responding to you.

Why are your panties in a bunch?

[User]

38 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Why ?  Because I don't hate science, universities, the courts, the police... ?
2. 3.  Lots are of major conservatives OK with it, yes.  If I think trans women deserve protection am I a 'culture warrior' ?
4. You play with the term 'pushing it'... just stop it.  You are pushing your labels on me, I'm using old and true definitions.  You think a conservative is a fat id1ot in a red hat, for example, then that's your business.

You do hate science, when it comes to your trans ideology you push. I digress... the point is that the way you throw around "conservative" you know you mean it to be something else other than how you use it when you are trying to pass yourself off as a "conservative" in the political sense. 

"deserve protection," how? They already have protection of laws, what you push is more than "protection"

I am not playing any term, it is in fact what you do and what you support. 

 

[User]

5 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Awww...

You upset?

Im still responding to you.

Why are your panties in a bunch?

To him... still a coward hiding from me. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

 

2. Yes, I am one. Conservatives appreciate institutions such as universities, the courts, scientific community. 

Well, you must realize that you are in the minority of Conservatives if this is true.

Do you think Donald is a conservative?

Donald has no respect for universities, the courts, or scientific community. Unless, of course,  if they bend to his whims.

 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

 

I'm a conservative Christian.  I will always call a trans woman by whatever pronouns she likes. 

I'm polite that way. 

Politeness is a conservative attribute also.

And again, if this is true, you are in the minority amounst conservatives.

Donald, whom I presume you think is a conservative,  verbally denigrates Trans women every chance he gets. As do his intolerant sycophants. 

 

Thus, the values youve mentioned above, are no longer conservative values, by any stretch of the imagination. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Donald, whom I presume you think is a conservative,  verbally denigrates Trans women every chance he gets. As do his intolerant sycophants. 

I dare you to try to find even one example of Trump or any conservative here doing that even once, you ignorant, slanderous B. 

FYI serious accusation like that require incontrovertible evidence. 

Edited January 26 by WestCanMan

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, User said:

1. You do hate science, when it comes to your trans ideology you push. I digress...

2. the point is that the way you throw around "conservative"

3. you know you mean it to be something else other than how you use it when you are trying to pass yourself off as a "conservative" in the political sense. 

4. "deserve protection," how? They already have protection of laws, what you push is more than "protection"

5. I am not playing any term, it is in fact what you do and what you support. 

 

1. You sure do.  "Push" means I hold an opinion that I didn't run by you first, I guess.
2. "throw around" "push" ... you really like to coat your wordings with damning hues... oh well
3. So... you know my intentions ... again .... I forgot about your mind reading abilities...
4. Lots of minority groups deserve additional protection.  I won't say "you know it" because I don't read minds and you may not be aware of it..>
5.  I don't know if you are playing, it just seems that way.

 

One question - are you aware that actual CONSERVATIVES support protection for transgender people yes/no ?

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

1. Do you think Donald is a conservative?

2. Thus, the values youve mentioned above, are no longer conservative values, by any stretch of the imagination. 

1. God no.  What conservative would put institutions through the grinder for his own enrichment ?  He WAS a kind of NYC Democrat one upon a time but he seems to be unprincipled.

He's the king of the Chuds, to my mind.  Is he actually a Chud ?  I don't think he stands for anything.

 

Lots of conservatives on here have spoken against Trump - Groot, Argus, and quiet disagreement on his methods from Bush_Cheney but you have to look for it.

2. Maybe.  Like I say, there are women with penises now.  The current and past #2 conservatives in Canada believed that.  But people who don't accept transgender people tend to squirm as through they'd actually kissed a guy in a dress if you ask.  I guess the meaning of the word may have changed when I wasn't looking.  Just like Christian now seems to mean someone who hates foreigners in some quarters.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. You sure do.  "Push" means I hold an opinion that I didn't run by you first, I guess.
2. "throw around" "push" ... you really like to coat your wordings with damning hues... oh well
3. So... you know my intentions ... again .... I forgot about your mind reading abilities...
4. Lots of minority groups deserve additional protection.  I won't say "you know it" because I don't read minds and you may not be aware of it..>
5.  I don't know if you are playing, it just seems that way.

 

One question - are you aware that actual CONSERVATIVES support protection for transgender people yes/no ?

No, push means exactly that, you hold a political view on trans ideology and you support laws to this effect, defend them, argue for them, and obfuscate for them. 

I know your behavior and actions here, how you throw around "conservative" in discussions and avoid explaining yourself when challenged. You play your usual coy obfuscation games. 

What additional protections? See, you keep playing vague. 

Show me what data you are using to come to your assertion about "conservatives" here. 

[Michael Hardner]

On Christianity:

Who are the people who stand outside death row prisons holding candles, praying for the condemned.

Those are Christians.

My elderly mother did this... my parents were Christian liberals who taught tolerance for all genders, sexual preferences, religions... who lamented the anti-semitism of the Catholic Church that they grew up with.

I am a Christian Agnostic.  Fight me ... but of course I will turn the other cheek  

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, User said:

1. No, push means exactly that, you hold a political view on trans ideology and you support laws to this effect, defend them, argue for them, and obfuscate for them. 

2. I know your behavior and actions here, how you throw around "conservative" in discussions and avoid explaining yourself when challenged. You play your usual coy obfuscation games. 

3. What additional protections? See, you keep playing vague. 

4. Show me what data you are using to come to your assertion about "conservatives" here. 

1. So you push anti-trans ideology.  By your definition "push" means hold and support a position, argue for it... and obfuscate - as seen by opponents.
2. I just explained myself very well.  You push yourself as being omniscient, you don't accept my explanations and obfuscate... say I didn't answer.
3. Legal protections as defined in law.  We have these at the constitutional level in Canada and the US I believe.
4. What data ?  You mean which conservatives support transgender protection under law ?  

38 Conservative MPs voted in favour in 2016, which I think included Harper's #2

https://www.hilltimes.com/story/2024/02/29/lantsman-calls-poilievres-comments-on-trans-women-the-position-of-the-conservative-party/413442/

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

ROFLMAO AT YOU...you traitorous little whore!

"I cant argue with facts. Im an emotional basket-case and I HATE Trump! Why won't they just give me what I want?"

Im sorry but obviously your mommy and daddy didn't teach you that you are not the center of the universe. You should tear down your tent...throw away your whore cloths...get off your drug addiction...and go ask your parents why they let you become such an irrational, spoiled little tramp.

Have a warm and fuzzy day...you traitorous, filthy little whore.

^ad hominem filled BUPKIS with ZERO EVIDENCE.

Sorry that YOUR PARENTS never taught you that you don't get to define "traitorous" in a foreign country.

You don't even understand what our First Amendment says. LMAO

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Correction: 'A readiness to allow illegals to grab their little girls, beat them senseless, tear their cloths off and fck them till they die.'

Have a warm and fuzzy day...Mr. Chivalry.

^Despicable LIES. 🤮

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Yes it is, you being  a prime example.

Seems like there's a lack of oxygen on the high chair you're sitting on.

Seems like you flunked out of CLOWN SCHOOL.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^ad hominem filled BUPKIS with ZERO EVIDENCE.

Sorry that YOUR PARENTS never taught you that you don't get to define "traitorous" in a foreign country.

You don't even understand what our First Amendment says. LMAO

Ya know what I understand?

That spoiled, ignorant, little sh1ts like you, should try improving America instead of destroying it.

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

 He WAS a kind of NYC Democrat one upon a time but he seems to be unprincipled.
 

Ummmm.....

 

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

He's the king of the Chuds, to my mind.  Is he actually a Chud ?  I don't think he stands for anything.

 

He stands for revenge against all those he perceives wronged him.

Thats over half of America. 

Remember,  donald stated publicly, all that oppose him are the enemy within.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjq_6-z_KmSAxUuiO4BHTSxKBU4ChAWegQIJxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnewrepublic.com%2Fpost%2F187394%2Ftrump-expands-enemy-within-hit-list&usg=AOvVaw2UL_WbrOprS_2NkvkC5ySZ&opi=89978449

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

 Lots of conservatives on here have spoken against Trump - Groot, Argus, and quiet disagreement on his methods from Bush_Cheney but you have to look for it.

 

Really?

Im not here enough to of seen it.

I guess I'll take your word for it?

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Maybe.  Like I say, there are women with penises now.  The current and past #2 conservatives in Canada believed that.  But people who don't accept transgender people tend to squirm as through they'd actually kissed a guy in a dress if you ask.  I guess the meaning of the word may have changed when I wasn't looking.  Just like Christian now seems to mean someone who hates foreigners in some quarters.

To me, its real simple:

There are genetic women, and there are Trans women.

I've never heard one liberal state that trans women are genetic women. Yet magas just love repeat that falsehood continually,  as if it's some sort of "gotcha " moment.

The lack of intellectual and emotional maturity displayed by these cave people is astounding. 

But, thats what America is fast becoming. 

Never thought I'd live to see the day.

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

What is the world coming to when the press holds a POTUS accountable for all the crazy shit he says? Shame!

The volume of coverage and negative coverage is simply a reflection of what Trump is saying and doing. No president in history has stayed up all night posting insane shit while perched on his gold-plated toilet, and the coverage reflects that.

It is unthinkable that a person like this is in the Oval Office. Nearly every day he says or does something wholly disqualifying. Frankly, the press is probably too generous. 

He has to keep up with new insane ranting to distract from yesterday's insane ranting and of course the Epstein Files illegally being withheld. 💡

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

Absolutely, the press should hold the president to account. But the fact is, all presidents are not getting the same treatment from the press.

For the most part, the press loved Obama as much as they hate Trump.

The main issue during the election was illegal immigration. Trump is doing what he said he would do.

Obama deports illegals...NO PROBLEM. Trump deports illegals....RACIST, BIGOT, HITLER...

As I stated before, when they start to shield Trump from engaging with the press, that's a sign that something is wrong.

Trump didn't campaign on a $75B goon squad terrorizing blue cities.

But he did say he planned to do that AFTER he was elected. 🤮

[User]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. So you push anti-trans ideology.  By your definition "push" means hold and support a position, argue for it... and obfuscate - as seen by opponents.
2. I just explained myself very well.  You push yourself as being omniscient, you don't accept my explanations and obfuscate... say I didn't answer.
3. Legal protections as defined in law.  We have these at the constitutional level in Canada and the US I believe.
4. What data ?  You mean which conservatives support transgender protection under law ?  

38 Conservative MPs voted in favour in 2016, which I think included Harper's #2

https://www.hilltimes.com/story/2024/02/29/lantsman-calls-poilievres-comments-on-trans-women-the-position-of-the-conservative-party/413442/

Yes, I push policy and support opposing the nonsense around modern trans ideology. 

We have had this discussion before, I admit to what I am doing and my positions, I do not try to obfuscate them like you do. 

I observe your behavior here and comment on that. 

What legal protections? See... I have now had to ask you 3 times and you still won't answer. You just play these dumb games. 

You made an assertion about Conservatives, you want me to comment on it, so show me the evidence that supports your assertion about them. 

You posted a link and stats that do not support your claim. 38... out of how many? The link you posted quotes members of the Conservative party and their official leaders and policy positions, that contradict you. 

3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I've never heard one liberal state that trans women are genetic women. Yet magas just love repeat that falsehood continually,  as if it's some sort of "gotcha " moment.

LOL, they don't have to. But they do in fact argue they are both "women" and that trans women should get to beat up real women in physical sports, share their spaces, because they are "women" too. 

You are a dishonest clown and a coward hiding from me that has ran away from past discussions on this same point. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

On Christianity:

Who are the people who stand outside death row prisons holding candles, praying for the condemned.

Those are Christians.

My elderly mother did this... my parents were Christian liberals who taught tolerance for all genders, sexual preferences, religions... who lamented the anti-semitism of the Catholic Church that they grew up with.

I am a Christian Agnostic.  Fight me ... but of course I will turn the other cheek  

I have a multitude of good hearted, empathetic, giving and humane folks around me.

Those are "my people", regardless of their race, creed, sexual orientation,  political affiliation,  or religious orientation. 

And i refuse to share my time with those that disregard those principles. 

Its just that simple.

Edited January 26 by CrakHoBarbie

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

 

There are genetic women, and there are Trans women. 

It's a strange idea and people are repelled by it.  They find it ugly.

So be it.

Freedom is ugly sometimes.

Go watch Easy Rider.  Those were two conservatives on motorbikes.  Most people today don't understand freedom.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, User said:

1. Yes, I push policy and support opposing the nonsense around modern trans ideology. 

2. I observe your behavior here and comment on that. 

3. What legal protections? See... I have now had to ask you 3 times and you still won't answer. You just play these dumb games. 

4. You posted a link and stats that do not support your claim. 38... out of how many? The link you posted quotes members of the Conservative party and their official leaders and policy positions, that contradict you. 

5. LOL, they don't have to. But they do in fact argue they are both "women" and that trans women should get to beat up real women in physical sports, share their spaces, because they are "women" too. 

6. You are a dishonest clown and a coward hiding from me that has ran away from past discussions on this same point. 

1. Well God bless you.  Then YES I push trans "ideology", which you define as supporting trans rights.
2. Yeah, but your reply to #1 has opened my eyes to the possibility that you may be in favour of objective reality.  That's quite something.
3. That is TBD.  I don't accept all of them... there are myriad that are proposed, I'm sure.  But I am ok with the 'principle'.  They have it for protections based on colour, creed etc.  Things like housing protection, employment protection, etc.  Bathrooms... and sports... I don't care about but in practical terms I favour tolerane and community peace-making.  So I generally support bathroom access based on how you look, and would rather not have bathroom laws but maybe folks want that locally.  Who knows...
4.  What % would have to have voted in favour for you to accept that conservatives can be in favour of trans rights ?  This is an honest question.  We have #2 conservative under Harper and now the #2 under Poilievre who's a wifed-up Lesbian... these are keystones in the CPC.  So can we just move past that then ?

What if we said SOME conservatives support trans rights.

5. You want to make the argument about specific issues that it's much easier to debate on.  I don't have a strong opinion on sports.  Should a 20 year old muscled up male-gendered man who calls themselves a WOMAN be able to box against a genetic woman ?  Seems like a dumb question to me but we should let the smaller jurisdictions decide these things first to see if it's a problem.

6.  Awww... now I'm a crying clown, given how much progress we have made in this discussion here.  You throw around terms like 'ran away' but you know... I don't HAVE to talk to you.  When a bum on the street asks me if I have a dime sometimes I don't answer either.

Anyway, pretty good chat, *** 3 stars... would chat again...

10 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

 

And i refuse to share my time with those that disregard those principles. 

 

Those are christians AFAIC

[User]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

6.  Awww... now I'm a crying clown, given how much progress we have made in this discussion here.  You throw around terms like 'ran away' but you know... I don't HAVE to talk to you.  When a bum on the street asks me if I have a dime sometimes I don't answer either.

Anyway, pretty good chat, *** 3 stars... would chat again...

Before I respond to the rest... I was not talking to you. You are so excited to look for any excuse to avoid having to directly respond on here, but do try to read more closely next time before you run. 

19 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I have a multitude of good hearted, empathetic, giving and humane folks around me.

Those are "my people", regardless of their race, creed, sexual orientation,  political affiliation,  or religious orientation. 

And i refuse to share my time with those that disregard those principles. 

Its just that simple.

No, you just run like a coward, it is just that simple.