CrakHoBarbie Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) You get an exploding 38 trillion national debt thats rising 71 thousand dollars per second. Great job red hats. You elected a halfwit with 6 bankruptcies under his belt to "fix" the economy. Well, hes "fixed" it alright. "The red hats dont know much about anything, and they sure love reminding us of it. Over and over and over" ----------CrakHoBarbie https://fortune.com/2026/01/22/how-big-national-debt-when-recession-financial-crisis-could-hit/ Edited January 23 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 While Xi’s engineers road-test the future, Trump continues to turn the clock back by focusing on oil, tariffs, real estate, very exclusive clubs and keeping the Epstein files under wraps. 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: While Xi’s engineers road-test the future, Trump continues to turn the clock back by focusing on oil, tariffs, real estate, very exclusive clubs and keeping the Epstein files under wraps. It is amazing how much you folks on the left ignorantly praise China. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 hour ago, User said: It is amazing how much you folks on the left ignorantly praise China. Please try and understand basic differences among people who disagree with you. We are not all the same. I don’t ‘praise’ the totalitarian nightmare that is China but I do refuse to ignore the unprecedented challenge that the West faces. 1 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Please try and understand basic differences among people who disagree with you. We are not all the same. I don’t ‘praise’ the totalitarian nightmare that is China but I do refuse to ignore the unprecedented challenge that the West faces. You just sang their praise contrasting that to America… Quote
John Stone Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 8 hours ago, User said: It is amazing how much you folks on the left ignorantly praise China. They say it's not paranoia if it's real? China IS a real economic threat ..........and by extension a threat to national security. The ChiCom has something that the West in general will never enjoy ............. an absence of political discord ....... boiling over to civil unrest. They make decisions base on 5 year strategies - they are consistent, follow through and if changes to strategy are needed they make adjustments rapidly. All that said, the objective should be to keep them close ......... that leaves Russia OUT! Quote
John Stone Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Trump will gain control of the Fed end of May. Current board chair will go bye-bye and there should be (4) Trump appointee governors. The Fed will likely become compliant to political hacks - not just now but for future administrations - which is the concern. A non-apolitical FED - can't wait to see the effect in the future. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 The left: "You can't cut spending! That will harm people!" Also the left: 'You are a loser because you didn't balance the budget!" They are just noise. Get ear plugs and ignore them. They are not serious. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-government-funding/ The bill that was passed returns the budget to Trump 1 era levels. It got almost 150 Democrats supported the bill despite House Minority Leader opposing the bill. Hakeem Jeffries is so reckless, even his own party is ignoring him. But Barbie said Trump is bad at running the economy. Yet, he is getting record GDP: "The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the fourth quarter of 2025 is 5.4 percent on January 22, unchanged from January 21 after rounding. After this morning’s releases from the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, the nowcast of fourth-quarter real gross private domestic investment growth decreased from 6.4 percent to 6.2 percent." Atlanta Fed On top of that tariffs have led to higher revenues for the government: "The federal government deficit for fiscal year 2025 totaled approximately $1.8 trillion, which was about $41 billion lower than the deficit recorded in fiscal year 2024." CBO When the final GDP numbers come out, that deficit is going to be a large percentage less than Biden's. The only economic numbers that are not insanely good are jobs. Part of that is due to recovering feom the Biden era false jobs report. Part of it is the time it takes to get those jobs up and running after trade deals. Part of it is deportations. By this time next year, we probably see some insanely high jobs numbers. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Deluge Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 15 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: You get an exploding 38 trillion national debt thats rising 71 thousand dollars per second. Great job red hats. You elected a halfwit with 6 bankruptcies under his belt to "fix" the economy. Well, hes "fixed" it alright. "The red hats dont know much about anything, and they sure love reminding us of it. Over and over and over" ----------CrakHoBarbie https://fortune.com/2026/01/22/how-big-national-debt-when-recession-financial-crisis-could-hit/ See, this is all laugh in your face material when you consider the waste of sperm that ran against Trump. lol Trump is the first best choice to run this country. Get used to it, or move to Ukraine. Edited January 23 by Deluge Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 13 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: You get an exploding 38 trillion national debt thats rising 71 thousand dollars per second. Great job red hats. So... did you ever complain when Biden was spending more in deficit each year? I don't like that Trump spends like crazy and doesn't care, welcome to the old school Conservatives who still care about this. It appears the only reason you care is to use it as a political talking point when convenient. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, User said: I don't like that Trump spends like crazy and doesn't care, welcome to the old school Conservatives who still care about this. Wow, welcome to the club. Old School conservatives who have pointed this out in here: You, me, I Am Groot, Argus... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Wow, welcome to the club. Old School conservatives who have pointed this out in here: You, me, I Am Groot, Argus... This goes without saying, Mike. Quit playing it safe. Quote
robosmith Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 3 hours ago, John Stone said: Trump will gain control of the Fed end of May. Current board chair will go bye-bye and there should be (4) Trump appointee governors. The Fed will likely become compliant to political hacks - not just now but for future administrations - which is the concern. A non-apolitical FED - can't wait to see the effect in the future. Look for ever more GWB 2008 Great Recessions. Quote
Hodad Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: The left: "You can't cut spending! That will harm people!" Also the left: 'You are a loser because you didn't balance the budget!" They are just noise. Get ear plugs and ignore them. They are not serious. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-government-funding/ The bill that was passed returns the budget to Trump 1 era levels. It got almost 150 Democrats supported the bill despite House Minority Leader opposing the bill. Hakeem Jeffries is so reckless, even his own party is ignoring him. But Barbie said Trump is bad at running the economy. Yet, he is getting record GDP: "The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the fourth quarter of 2025 is 5.4 percent on January 22, unchanged from January 21 after rounding. After this morning’s releases from the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, the nowcast of fourth-quarter real gross private domestic investment growth decreased from 6.4 percent to 6.2 percent." Atlanta Fed On top of that tariffs have led to higher revenues for the government: "The federal government deficit for fiscal year 2025 totaled approximately $1.8 trillion, which was about $41 billion lower than the deficit recorded in fiscal year 2024." CBO When the final GDP numbers come out, that deficit is going to be a large percentage less than Biden's. The only economic numbers that are not insanely good are jobs. Part of that is due to recovering feom the Biden era false jobs report. Part of it is the time it takes to get those jobs up and running after trade deals. Part of it is deportations. By this time next year, we probably see some insanely high jobs numbers. Inflation creeping up. Unemployment rising. Job creation soft. Deficit and debt exploding. Foreclosures soaring. Personal debt soaring. Do you really think those metrics reflect healthy fundamentals? Do you really think Trump is somehow driving GDP independent of those metrics? Of course not. GDP is being driven by the AI boom--a boom which is likely a bubble, and if it's not a bubble will be disastrous for unemployment. Trump wants to take credit for it, and you're clearly eager to give it, but that simply does not match reality. The growth is incredibly siloed and not distributed across the economy. That's why you see everything else soft. Without data centers, GDP growth was 0.1% in the first half of 2025, Harvard economist says U.S. GDP growth in the first half of 2025 was almost entirely driven by investment in data centers and information processing technology, according to Harvard economist Jason Furman. Excluding these technology-related categories, Furman calculated in a Sept. 27 post on X.com GDP growth would have been just 0.1% on an annualized basis, a near standstill that underlines the increasingly pivotal role of high-tech infrastructure in shaping macroeconomic outcomes. Different analyses may produce different numbers, but the underlying theme is consistent: GDP is being propped up by a very narrow vertical. Trump is trying to flood the economy with "rebate" checks while running record deficits, as he did in his first term. And worse, he's trying to seize political control of monetary policy to artificially stimulate the economy. He left the economy in a ditch at the end of his first term, and he's very likely to leave us in a much deeper, longer ditch this term. There is every reason to expect another Great Recession. 1 Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, Hodad said: Inflation creeping up. Unemployment rising. Job creation soft. Deficit and debt exploding. Foreclosures soaring. Personal debt soaring. You are such a partisan hack. None of this is new to Trump and you are completely unhinged and lying about deficit and debt exploding, foreclosures, and personal debt. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, User said: It appears the only reason you care is to use it as a political talking point when convenient. I see. And how did you come to this conclusion? One of the main reasons the red hats elected donald was to stop the massive government overspending, and fix the economy. He has failed abysmally at both, and has actually made both worse. Of course, you've got your red hat crammed so far up your rectal cavity you are no longer capable of critical thought. Again, may I suggest night school or city college, civics 101. Your welcome. Edited January 23 by CrakHoBarbie 1 Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I see. And how did you come to this conclusion? One of the main reasons the red hats elected donaldcwas to stop the massive government overspending, and fix the economy. He has failed abysmally at both, and has actually made both worse. Of course, you've got your red hat crammed so far up your rectal cavity you are no longer capable of critical thought. Again, may I suggest night school or city college, civics 101. Your welcome. Deficit spending was like 1% less this year than last... so, your notion that the "exploding" is because of Trump is why you are a partisan hack. Trump has never been serious about the debt or spending, and I was not expecting him to be this time around either. You saying he has made this worse is a lie. It was not true last time he was President either. When you want to start using critical thinking here, let me know because I am not even sure you are capable of it as you just lie all day long and then run away when called out. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 20 minutes ago, User said: Deficit spending was like 1% less this year than last... so, your notion that the "exploding" is because of Trump is why you are a partisan hack. Trump has never been serious about the debt or spending, and I was not expecting him to be this time around either. You saying he has made this worse is a lie. It was not true last time he was President either. When you want to start using critical thinking here, let me know because I am not even sure you are capable of it as you just lie all day long and then run away when called out. Im not the one who promised to fix inflation and stop government overspending. Donald did. He repeatedly promised to "end the inflation nightmare" and "make America affordable again". By any metric you choose, he has failed abysmally. Quote
Hodad Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Im not the one who promised to fix inflation and stop government overspending. Donald did. He repeatedly promised to "end the inflation nightmare" and "make America affordable again". By any metric you choose, he has failed abysmally. Let's be fair. He's corruptly grifted his way to billions while in office. He's made America much more affordable for himself. 1 1 Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Just now, CrakHoBarbie said: Im not the one who promised to fix inflation and stop government overspending. Donald did. OK... and? You are the one lying about those things right now. 1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said: He repeatedly promised to "end the inflation nightmare" and "make America affordable again". By any metric you choose, he has failed abysmally. Inflation is getting better, things are getting more affordable in some areas and increasing at about the same rate as they were before... not "failing abysmally," and it is also only 1 year into the administration. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 (edited) 39 minutes ago, User said: You are the one lying about those things right now. Prove it. 39 minutes ago, User said: Inflation is getting better, things are getting more affordable in some areas and increasing at about the same rate as they were before... not "failing abysmally," and it is also only 1 year into the administration. Donalds actions have put our very monetary system at risk. His on again/off again tariff threats have turned the stock market into a roller coaster that he, and all his friends in the know have profited from. I'll add citations proving my claims, but again, you are so far up donalds rectal cavity , you'll dismiss them as you dismiss anything that doesn't agree with your insane agenda. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-02-03/trump-takes-markets-businesses-on-a-tariff-rollercoaster https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiH0faEtqKSAxVPIEQIHR-DMfs4FBAWegQIMhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2F2025%2F03%2F31%2Ftrump-economy-tariffs%2F&usg=AOvVaw3TY3BlGie6c8BJuUSF5O3f&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj7nsqYtqKSAxUrJUQIHXDNLk04HhAWegQIMRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Fgraphics%2FUSA-TRUMP%2FTARIFFS%2Fzgvojydkapd%2F&usg=AOvVaw3SA8AjZhCvuiSQuQC-bE-K&opi=89978449 Edited January 23 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Prove it. You make the outlandish assertion without evidence, it is on you to prove it. Clown. 5 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Donalds actions have put our very monetary system at risk. His on again/off again tariff threats have turned the stock market into a roller coaster that he, and all his friends in the know have profited from. You go from one rambling string of baseless false assertions to another... Just because you post random links you do not read doesn't prove anything. Quote
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