paxamericana Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 (edited) As the World deglobalized, 2026 is starting to shape up like 1936. This is the final decade for many countries in the EU and Eastern Asian countries to be a meaningful global trading partner; Ushering in the another era of colonial competition for trade and resource. Russia, Germany, Japan is rearming. The world will be rife with war yet the American hemisphere looks relatively peaceful . America needs to enter war time munitions production as a deterrent if not for actual use. Edited January 1 by paxamericana Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 Oh good. Another WW3, the Nazis are coming thread. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 (edited) ............... there will be a period of escalation ........... saber rattling and the increased use of conventional weapons - breathing space (time). Tac-nucs means we're staring into the abyss ...... finger on the trigger, baby. The escalation to strategic (fusion) weapons will be sudden and massive.......... shoot the bolt. The concept of mobilization is really old school.............. def the idea of total war. Akin to the parachute analogy - if you need it (chute) and you don't have it, you'll never need it? In naval exercises ...... generally the strategy is to empty the magazine with the understanding being there won't be a port capable of rearming your hull and you yourself are a shining target.......... coherent phased array be damned. Rumor is the Cdn Army is being reequipped with new colt Assault rifles - deterrence is the strategy. Oh, Canada! Edited January 1 by John Stone Quote
Radiorum Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 5 hours ago, paxamericana said: the EU and Eastern Asian countries to be a meaningful global trading partner; In 2024, trade between the EU and the USA topped $2.58 trillion, between southern Asia and the USA $571 billion, and between China and the USA $582 billion - so that's pretty meaningful ... Can you explain why you think trade is related to the heightened alarm over war? Anyway, do you know what mobilization means? Wartime mobilization refers to the process by which a country prepares its economy, society, and military for war. This includes the organization of resources, labor, and production to support military efforts, often leading to significant changes in civilian life and economic structure. Mobilization is crucial for ensuring that a nation can effectively respond to the demands of warfare and maintain its military operations. Do you believe we are at that point? But - Canada and the EU are increasing both recruitment and defense expenditures, and - Canada's Top General Says We're Ready for War Quote
paxamericana Posted January 1 Author Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Can you explain why you think trade is related to the heightened alarm over war? In the simplest sense, keep one another in each other wallet and you won’t want to shoot at them. That only works if trade makes sense. China, Europe has aged out, they no longer have the necessary consumption age(16~45) population to sustain trade. The math changes if there is no net benefit, we went from looking at each other as potential customer to just competitor. 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Do you believe we are at that point? That question is irrelevant, we need to be ready. History was only slowed, it’s never stopped. 2 hours ago, John Stone said: In naval exercises ...... generally the strategy is to empty the magazine with the understanding being there won't be a port capable of rearming your hull and you yourself are a shining target.......... coherent phased array be damned. This assumes the weapons are in range. America is bicoastal and will always have a port out of reach of any enemy. Our geography is why we’re the undisputed superpower. Drones while cheap and numerous, lack the range. The longer range weapon system are more expensive and by virtue, lesser in quantity and require me more sophisticated guidance and tracking making them easier to intercept. Trump’s Golden dome is another layer of defense against the long range threat. Quote
Deluge Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: In 2024, trade between the EU and the USA topped $2.58 trillion, between southern Asia and the USA $571 billion, and between China and the USA $582 billion - so that's pretty meaningful ... Can you explain why you think trade is related to the heightened alarm over war? Anyway, do you know what mobilization means? Wartime mobilization refers to the process by which a country prepares its economy, society, and military for war. This includes the organization of resources, labor, and production to support military efforts, often leading to significant changes in civilian life and economic structure. Mobilization is crucial for ensuring that a nation can effectively respond to the demands of warfare and maintain its military operations. Do you believe we are at that point? But - Canada and the EU are increasing both recruitment and defense expenditures, and - Canada's Top General Says We're Ready for War We should be where we were before the hair sniffer took over - probably as far back as the 80's; the Reagan administration seemed ready. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 14 minutes ago, paxamericana said: keep one another in each other wallet and you won’t want to shoot at them. I agree. I think robust trade signals an interdependency, and it's good for both producers and consumers 15 minutes ago, paxamericana said: we need to be ready. History was only slowed, it’s never stopped. I agree Quote
paxamericana Posted January 1 Author Report Posted January 1 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Oh good. Another WW3, the Nazis are coming thread. I expect a full apology thesis when one of our Aircraft Carrier gets sunk. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 23 minutes ago, paxamericana said: I expect a full apology thesis when one of our Aircraft Carrier gets sunk. Yeah. Why don't you hold your breath on that. I have been hearing WW3 is coming since 1985. My guess is that in 2065 we will still be predicting WW3 is right around the corner. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: In the simplest sense, keep one another in each other wallet and you won’t want to shoot at them. That only works if trade makes sense. China, Europe has aged out, they no longer have the necessary consumption age(16~45) population to sustain trade. The math changes if there is no net benefit, we went from looking at each other as potential customer to just competitor. That question is irrelevant, we need to be ready. History was only slowed, it’s never stopped. This assumes the weapons are in range. America is bicoastal and will always have a port out of reach of any enemy. Our geography is why we’re the undisputed superpower. Drones while cheap and numerous, lack the range. The longer range weapon system are more expensive and by virtue, lesser in quantity and require me more sophisticated guidance and tracking making them easier to intercept. Trump’s Golden dome is another layer of defense against the long range threat. Sub launched ICBM is almost impossible to intercept ......... the platforms to launch these weapons are of course covert. The weapon itself would be multiple independent reentry vehicle designs. This type of weapon would devastate the United States or any other country. Extreme range - up to 6K miles - megaton yield - city killer. The good news is that the US. would detect the launch ..... giving credence to the counterstrike. (MAD) The ideal location for covert ICBM launch would from under the Arctic ice cap. The way to avoid any war (conventional or other) is thru deterrence - possess a rapidly deployable, standing force, well equipped and trained that makes war not worth the squeeze. If hostilities do occur a well equipped conventional force will buy time ........ escalation will occur but there will be time for negotiation. The most dangerous enemy today is likely a nation possessing a poorly trained conventional military but is in possession of nukes and the means to deliver them - fourth protocol notwithstanding. Concern should be focused on the somewhat defunct, Abraham Accords. Recent revisions seemed to have been made to allow SA the ability to enrich uranium and export the product. Personally I think relying on something like the Golden Dome for defense against these weapons is poor strategy - the detection technology will likely be overtaken quite rapidly. Real defense is from orbit - weapons in space - geo sync. 22 minutes ago, paxamericana said: I expect a full apology thesis when one of our Aircraft Carrier gets sunk. 22 minutes ago, paxamericana said: I expect a full apology thesis when one of our Aircraft Carrier gets sunk. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Radiorum said: In 2024, trade between the EU and the USA topped $2.58 trillion, between southern Asia and the USA $571 billion, and between China and the USA $582 billion - so that's pretty meaningful ... Can you explain why you think trade is related to the heightened alarm over war? Anyway, do you know what mobilization means? Wartime mobilization refers to the process by which a country prepares its economy, society, and military for war. This includes the organization of resources, labor, and production to support military efforts, often leading to significant changes in civilian life and economic structure. Mobilization is crucial for ensuring that a nation can effectively respond to the demands of warfare and maintain its military operations. Do you believe we are at that point? But - Canada and the EU are increasing both recruitment and defense expenditures, and - Canada's Top General Says We're Ready for War I think there are lots of Euro nations already in the early process of mobilization, Poland, Germany, Sweden, Finland, debating conscription, rebuilding war stocks, many of Europe's military manufactures are clogged with orders..So yes some NATO nations have entered that mobilization. Canada's top general is lying her ass off....What is her motive for announcing such a disturbing announcement....just last year she said the exact opposite, so i ask what has changed in one year....we still have a critical shortage of every major battle field piece of equipment to fighters to ships to ground equipment....What she meant to say is yes in case of conflict Canada will send it's troops in shoddy equipment because that is their job...to go where our government sends us ready or not....The list of modern equipment that is battle ready for todays conflicts is very very short....while the list of equipment that is past due or in the procurement stage is longer than a NHL hockey rink... Not to mention a critical shortage of bullets and bombs...so Yes we are ready for day one on day two, people are coming back in bags... She is due for retirement, it is time to look for her replacement...first the Civil service plan, now stating to the rest of the country we are ready....why would the average Canadian support new purchases if the CDS is claiming we are ready.... https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/new-top-soldier-warns-canada-needs-to-be-ready-for-the-threats-that-are-coming/article_78d43886-452c-11ef-b9d5-87dd5b0bb187.html Quote Her predecessor as top soldier, Gen. Wayne Eyre, was explicit about the threat of war. In a speech before the event’s crowd of dignitaries that included Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Gov. Gen. Mary Simon, Eyre spoke about the need to urgently prepare for a major conflict — before it’s too late. Quote “Our military history is one of unpreparedness at the outbreak of war,” he said, citing the state of Canada’s military at the outbreak of the First and Second World Wars, as well as after the 9/11 attacks on the United States. “Let’s not let that happen again.” As Carignan noted, however, the Canadian military she now commands faces many significant challenges. Aging equipment will take years and many billions of dollars to repair and replace. The institution has been rocked in recent years by sexual misconduct scandals that forced a reckoning over the military’s internal culture, with Carignan recently charged with trying to shepherd through a series of reforms to address it. And the armed forces is dealing with a major shortage of personnel Blair has previously described as a “death spiral” for the military. 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Radiorum Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, Army Guy said: so i ask what has changed in one year Uh, Trump - and the USA siding with Russia Quote
Army Guy Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Uh, Trump - and the USA siding with Russia I don't see how any of what you mention can explain why the CDS would announce we are ready, when we ALL know that is not true, we as Canadians have been bombarded by the media stating the opposite. Gen Eyra was explicit in his thoughts about the next conflict which was looming just over the horizon....Present CDS acknowledge all of that in here acceptance speech...So how do we go from being drastically unprepared last year to ready this year....sorry you'll have to walk me through that ?.... Trump actions are responsible for our push in equipment purchases...meeting our 2 % GDP, and now 5 %....Trump is not siding with Russia he wants that peace prize for solving that conflict....and he does not care what it takes....I'm not a fan of trump , but he is shaping the way Canada does business today, our thinking on our military is one, divesting our economy is another... both of these issues have been a issue for Canada for years....and no one fixed them because they were to hard to....How many times have we stated we need to diverse our economy away from China, and the US....to many times to count...Trump has done that in less than 2 years... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 Bring back the draft. Canada could use an influx of educated English speaking culturally compatible people. Conservatives should be all for that! Quote
User Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 7 hours ago, Radiorum said: Anyway, do you know what mobilization means? LOL, he couldn't figure out what "invasion" meant in the thread where he said we were invading Venezuela months ago. 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Uh, Trump - and the USA siding with Russia Trump and USA have not sided with Russia. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 3 hours ago, herbie said: Bring back the draft. Canada could use an influx of educated English speaking culturally compatible people. Conservatives should be all for that! No the draft is for wart time, what we need is modern equipment , good job opportunities, with good wages, Canadians deserve that....Military does not carte about skin color, religion, etc....what they want is people with good moral values, people that you can trust your life with....you could be purple with warts on your Johnston for all they care... 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
paxamericana Posted January 2 Author Report Posted January 2 On 1/1/2026 at 10:52 AM, gatomontes99 said: Yeah. Why don't you hold your breath on that. I have been hearing WW3 is coming since 1985. My guess is that in 2065 we will still be predicting WW3 is right around the corner. I don’t understand this mentality. So what your solution is complacency????? Really? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 3 hours ago, paxamericana said: I don’t understand this mentality. So what your solution is complacency????? Really? I don't tend to propose solutions to things that are not a problem. I kind of figure the problem has to come first. I know...I am weird like that. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
paxamericana Posted January 2 Author Report Posted January 2 58 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: I don't tend to propose solutions to things that are not a problem. I kind of figure the problem has to come first. I know...I am weird like that. Does not hurt to be prepared. With the side benefits of deterrence. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: Does not hurt to be prepared. With the side benefits of deterrence. Yes, in this case, it does hurt to be prepared. It costs money. We should always be ready for a 3 front war. Adding to that is a waste if there is no imminent threat. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
paxamericana Posted January 3 Author Report Posted January 3 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Yes, in this case, it does hurt to be prepared. It costs money. We should always be ready for a 3 front war. Adding to that is a waste if there is no imminent threat. Yes deterrence is expensive. But much less expensive than a war so pick your poison. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 On 1/1/2026 at 3:50 AM, paxamericana said: The world will be rife with war yet the American hemisphere looks relatively peaceful . Thanks to rules and institutions brought in after WW2. The institutions Trump is trying to eradicate. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 3 Author Report Posted January 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Thanks to rules and institutions brought in after WW2. The institutions Trump is trying to eradicate. This was not Trump’s doing. We were already headed this way ever since the Berlin Wall fell. Unless there’s a big enough boogy man to scare the Americans, we do not feel the need to pay for an alliance with a bunch of freeloader. China, while a threat, will not outlive this decade. They now have more people over 55 than below. Edited January 3 by paxamericana Quote
John Stone Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 (edited) sincerely hope this works out - u break it, u own it. Regime change has not been a success story over the past 30+ years. Winning the war is one thing ........... winning the peace (stability) has proven elusive. Where this is headed is anyone's guess. Edited January 3 by John Stone Quote
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