FURIOUS Canada STRIKES BACK at Trump OVER WAR CRIMES

[ironstone]

31 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Sending masked thugs into the streets to terrorize the people is something new to the US, too.

This photo is from the Clinton era.

 

33 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Lol. I dunno, I think the fact that Trump is pardoning all these drug lords is pretty relevant.

I agree that drug lords should not get pardons. To be fair, Trump is not the only president that has given pardons to unsavory characters. Some pardons are probably fair while others are not.

[ironstone]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Cartels are NOT COUNTRIES. Duh

True enough. But in some countries, cartels have very $trong connection$ and enormous influence on their respective governments. And those governments routinely turn a blind eye to what the cartels are doing.

[Radiorum]

@ironstone - provide context for the photo if I am to respond to it

[ironstone]

32 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

@ironstone - provide context for the photo if I am to respond to it

It was kind of an international custody dispute. The boy's mother drowned on a boat leaving Cuba and he was rescued and brought to Florida where he eventually ended up living with an uncle. The boy's other relatives in Cuba wanted him back which ended up in court where it was decided he must go back to Cuba to relatives there. The uncle refused to comply and hence the government sent in the heavy hitters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elián_González

Incidentally, the 'masked thugs' that you referred to are covering their faces for their own safety. If they showed their faces, it's pretty much a certainty that the left would dox them. There are loonies on the right and there are loonies on the left. The difference is, there are more on the left and they have no reservations about resorting to violence as a means to an end.

Edited December 8, 2025 by ironstone

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

was kind of an international custody dispute. The boy's mother drowned on a boat leaving Cuba and he was rescued and brought to Florida where he eventually ended up living with an uncle. The boy's other relatives in Cuba wanted him back which ended up in court where it was decided he must go back to Cuba to relatives there. The uncle refused to comply and hence the government sent in the heavy hitters.

Then, I'm sorry, it is no corollary to what ICE is doing now, stoking fear in entire communities.

... roaming the streets in plainclothes, masked, and sometimes armed—have stoked fear in communities nationwide. These federal agents have been seen swinging batons, smashing car windows, using explosives to blow the door off of a home with children inside, emerging from unmarked vehicles with weapons drawn, shooting into a family vehicle, and grabbing people off of the street and putting them into unmarked vehicles.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/masked-and-unidentifiable-the-risks-of-federal-law-enforcement-operating-without-identification/

 

3 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Incidentally, the 'masked thugs' that you referred to are covering their faces for their own safety. If they showed their faces, it's pretty much a certainty that the left would dox them. There are loonies on the right and there are loonies on the left. The difference is, there are more on the left and they have no reservations about resorting to violence as a means to an end.

 

Federal law must operate with identification. 

Since taking office, the Trump administration has undermined public safety and law enforcement accountability by supporting the dangerous practice of obscuring the identity of ICE and other federal officers.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/masked-and-unidentifiable-the-risks-of-federal-law-enforcement-operating-without-identification/

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Says the oddity that gets all his info from Facebook.

^Says the lDIOT who is so distracted by a pretty face that he can't understand what is SAID. 

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

This photo is from the Clinton era.

Do you imagine those thugs are on the streets? Or have ANY evidence they are real?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

True enough. But in some countries, cartels have very $trong connection$ and enormous influence on their respective governments. And those governments routinely turn a blind eye to what the cartels are doing.

You mean like that former head of the Honduran government (Hernandez) whom Trump PARDONED for the FELONY of dumping 400 TONS of cocaine in the US? 

[robosmith]

43 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It was kind of an international custody dispute. The boy's mother drowned on a boat leaving Cuba and he was rescued and brought to Florida where he eventually ended up living with an uncle. The boy's other relatives in Cuba wanted him back which ended up in court where it was decided he must go back to Cuba to relatives there. The uncle refused to comply and hence the government sent in the heavy hitters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elián_González

Incidentally, the 'masked thugs' that you referred to are covering their faces for their own safety. If they showed their faces, it's pretty much a certainty that the left would dox them. There are loonies on the right and there are loonies on the left. The difference is, there are more on the left and they have no reservations about resorting to violence as a means to an end.

You OBVIOUSLY completely MISSED the loonies on the right who invaded the Capitol on J6th.

It is well documented that there are many more domestic terrorists on the right in the US like EVERY MILITIA

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Research from government agencies and independent organizations consistently indicates that, over the past several years, right-wing extremists have been responsible for the majority of domestic terrorist attacks and fatalities in the U.S.. White supremacists and anti-government extremists (including some militia groups) have been identified as primary threats. 

 

Key Data Points

• Overall Incidents and Fatalities: Multiple studies confirm that right-wing violence has been more frequent and significantly more lethal than left-wing violence. One analysis found that right-wing extremists were responsible for approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
• Primary Motivations: The largest category of domestic terrorism incidents tracked by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between 2010 and 2021 was racially- or ethnically-motivated extremism, which often led to the most lethal attacks. Anti-government or anti-authority sentiment was the second largest category.
• Militia Movement: From the mid-1990s through the mid-2000s, general opposition to federal authority, often associated with the broader American militia movement, inspired a significant portion of attacks against government targets. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) documents approximately 180 active anti-government paramilitary groups.
• Recent Shifts (2025 Data): A mid-year 2025 report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) noted a temporary, "remarkable drop off" in right-wing terror incidents in the first half of 2025, while left-wing attacks "ticked up" from very low levels, marking the first time in over 30 years that left-wing plots outnumbered right-wing ones in a single short data period. However, extremism researchers caution that these left-wing incidents still rose from a very low baseline and that overall trends continue to show right-wing extremism as the more significant, enduring threat.
• Government Assessments: The FBI and DHS consistently identify domestic violent extremists, particularly lone offenders radicalized online by a range of ideological beliefs, as a primary threat

 

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Only you rot agree.

What if, hypothetically we are the sane one. Has that occurred to you all?

[ironstone]

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You OBVIOUSLY completely MISSED the loonies on the right who invaded the Capitol on J6th.

It is well documented that there are many more domestic terrorists on the right in the US like EVERY MILITIA

 

I never defended those that acted violently on J6th. The majority were peaceful.

BLM/Antifa riots? George Floyd riots? Far more numerous from the left. It's absurd that BLM/Antifa riots aren't considered as coming from the left.

[Radiorum]

The very short video clip below is of Trump, responding to a female reporter who asked about the boat strikes.

Trump snarls at her, "You are the most obnoxious reporter in the whole place. Let me just tell you - you are obnoxious - a terrible reporter. And it's always the same thing with you. I told you. Whatever Pete Hegseth wants to do is okay with me."

A couple of things become apparent - Trump has the attitude that 'How dare you question me?" - and he sees himself as the final authority, not the law. As long as it is "okay with him" - it is okay.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSBEKmwkZcu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

 

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I never defended those that acted violently on J6th. The majority were peaceful.

BLM/Antifa riots? George Floyd riots? Far more numerous from the left. It's absurd that BLM/Antifa riots aren't considered as coming from the left.

Just because you claim "its absurd" does not make it true. There are many right wingers who are NOT RACIST.

It's just that most racists ARE right wingers.

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Then, I'm sorry, it is no corollary to what ICE is doing now, stoking fear in entire communities.

... roaming the streets in plainclothes, masked, and sometimes armed—have stoked fear in communities nationwide. These federal agents have been seen swinging batons, smashing car windows, using explosives to blow the door off of a home with children inside, emerging from unmarked vehicles with weapons drawn, shooting into a family vehicle, and grabbing people off of the street and putting them into unmarked vehicles.

It seems there is no legal requirement for ICE agents to show identification according to this link.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/ice-identification-requirements-search-arrest-c4c2fa

"Federal rules and current reporting show no single clear statute forcing ICE officers to always display identification at the moment of an arrest; multiple lawmakers and news outlets report that ICE is not required to show badge numbers, wear identifying badges, or refrain from covering faces, prompting bills and congressional letters asking DHS to tighten rules."

As I said, ICE agents would get doxxed like crazy if they were required to show ID.

Clearly many illegals are refusing to comply when ICE shows up, and there is the additional threat of protesters getting physically involved. 

Sadly, force is often necessary in certain instances. What do cops do when someone gets pulled over and they repeatedly refuse to comply with lawful commands to exit their vehicle? They break the window and drag the driver out, kicking and screaming.

If ICE is prohibited from using force as necessary with these people, then it becomes virtually impossible to remove anyone.

I think it's reasonable for any nation to determine who should be allowed to come into their country.

[ironstone]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Just because you claim "its absurd" does not make it true.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/study-on-political-violence-omits-pro-abortion-attacks-blm-and-antifa/ar-AA1NdErY

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

seems there is no legal requirement for ICE agents to show identification according to this link.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/ice-identification-requirements-search-arrest-c4c2fa

"Federal rules and current reporting show no single clear statute forcing ICE officers to always display identification at the moment of an arrest; multiple lawmakers and news outlets report that ICE is not required to show badge numbers, wear identifying badges, or refrain from covering faces, prompting bills and congressional letters asking DHS to tighten rules."

Lol, who do you think made the law?

 

5 minutes ago, ironstone said:

As I said, ICE agents would get doxxed like crazy if they were required to show ID.

Clearly many illegals are refusing to comply when ICE shows up, and there is the additional threat of protesters getting physically involved. 

Sadly, force is often necessary in certain instances. What do cops do when someone gets pulled over and they repeatedly refuse to comply with lawful commands to exit their vehicle? They break the window and drag the driver out, kicking and screaming.

If ICE is prohibited from using force as necessary with these people, then it becomes virtually impossible to remove anyone.

I'm not hearing about people refusing to comply. I'm reading about ICE abusing their power.

11 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I think it's reasonable for any nation to determine who should be allowed to come into their country.

I don't think anyone would disagree with this. But that's not what we are talking about.

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

I don't think anyone would disagree with this. But that's not what we are talking about

Yes. In fact it is. Democrats have supported and continue to support the open borders lawlessness that has led us to millions of people being here illegally.

ICE is enforcing the law much more strictly now. In that they are not ignoring a ton of people breaking the law. 

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's just that most racists ARE right wingers.

Nope. Those on the left also push their racism and racist policies to this day.

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Federal law must operate with identification. 

You are conflating things. Federal law enforcement does identify themselves as federal law enforcement.

This doesn’t mean you get to know their full names and home addresses when you have nothing to do with anything so you can go try to dox them to harass them. 

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Discussing the issue with subhominids that think extrajudicial murder is justice and braggarts who mistake ugliness for greatness is a waste of time.

Yeah CANADA objects, the rest of the World objects and most Americans object. Only you rot agree.

What extrajudicial murder? 

[User]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Trump claimed he hit the boats in the ocean to interrupt fentanyl import.

I posted something that said but there was no fentanyl on the boats.

Then you post a White House article about designating drug cartels as terrorists.

Can you not see that your article did not follow from what was said before??

Where did Trump ever say he ONLY was targeting these boats for that reason?

The administration outlined all the reasons as to why they have labeled these groups as narco terrorists and the threats the pose that is the motivation for stopping them with military force, it was not just fentanyl.

I gave you the link that outlined this. 
 

 

[Radiorum]

8 minutes ago, User said:

ICE is enforcing the law much more strictly now. In that they are not ignoring a ton of people breaking the law. 

They are power-mad, undisciplined, and conduct themselves with impunity. ICE are not good guys. They use deceptive tactics like impersonating officers to enter homes without warrants. They deny due process. They detain US citizens, sometimes only based on appearance (racial profiling). They use excessive force. They violate 4^th Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure. They have caused crashes during high-speed chases. And they have conducted large-scale raids on workplaces, resulting in the detention of many in the US legally, or US citizens.

Their purpose is to cause fear and to intimidate.

 

 

[User]

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

They are power-mad, undisciplined, and conduct themselves with impunity. ICE are not good guys. They use deceptive tactics like impersonating officers to enter homes without warrants. They deny due process. They detain US citizens, sometimes only based on appearance (racial profiling). They use excessive force. They violate 4^th Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure. They have caused crashes during high-speed chases. And they have conducted large-scale raids on workplaces, resulting in the detention of many in the US legally, or US citizens.

Their purpose is to cause fear and to intimidate.

 

 

You are making a hasty generalization with no data or facts to substantiate.

You are outright lying about their tactics in nonsensical ways - ICE are law enforcement officers, they don’t have to impersonate.

ICE can’t deny due process this is a lie.

Yes, just like any other law enforcement organization from the local city cop to a sheriff to a FBI agent, they conduct investigations and arrests every day that make mistakes or involve innocent people as they work through the situations the are confronted with.

So what? 
 

[Radiorum]

7 minutes ago, User said:

Where did Trump ever say he ONLY was targeting these boats for that reason?

The administration outlined all the reasons as to why they have labeled these groups as narco terrorists and the threats the pose that is the motivation for stopping them with military force, it was not just fentanyl.

he consistently claimed he was targeting the boats because of fentanyl deaths in the US. I've already posted about this. You must have missed it.

Look, in everything that Trump does, there is one question you have to ask yourself. "What's in it for him?" Because that is the totality of Trumps' motivation for doing anything. He wants a cut into Venezuela's oil. 

8 minutes ago, User said:

You are making a hasty generalization with no data or facts to substantiate.

You are outright lying about their tactics in nonsensical ways - ICE are law enforcement officers, they don’t have to impersonate.

ICE can’t deny due process this is a lie.

Yes, just like any other law enforcement organization from the local city cop to a sheriff to a FBI agent, they conduct investigations and arrests every day that make mistakes or involve innocent people as they work through the situations the are confronted with.

Yeah, sure, somewhere over the rainbow

[User]

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

he consistently claimed he was targeting the boats because of fentanyl deaths in the US. I've already posted about this. You must have missed it.

Look, in everything that Trump does, there is one question you have to ask yourself. "What's in it for him?" Because that is the totality of Trumps' motivation for doing anything. He wants a cut into Venezuela's oil. 

Do you understand a Venn diagram? Yes, fentanyl is part of the reasoning, but not the only reasoning. 
 

 

5 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Yeah, sure, somewhere over the rainbow

Yet again, you offer surface level deep BS assertions and then balk when called out. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Radiorum said:

K, I always suspected you were a bullshitter, now I have irrefutable proof.

LOL Liar   You "decided' i was the moment you realized I didn't agree with you on everything. It's how you lefties operate   And you've got no more proof now than you did then. 

 

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I have never made any type of comment about abortion, one way or the other, ever.

I recall you complaining about the states being given that power and supporting the democrat position. But, my memory isn't perfect and we don't have a search feature right now so you can clear this right up. Simply state now that you don't support abortion rights at all and you don't agree with the democrats and I will apologize for misunderstanding you or remembering incorrectly. Let's see.

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I can only hope there are not many more like you out there, with this attitude.

You mean willing to call you on your bullshit?

Oh I think there's a fair number. Have you considered starting to tell the truth instead? You find you get called out on your bullshit a lot less when you do

I will wait for your firm statement that you women should have abortion rights and be ready to immediately pounce with an apology.    I have a funny feeling however that my memory is relatively accurate. We'll see won't we. 

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I recall you complaining about the states being given that power and supporting the democrat position.

You recall wrong

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Simply state now that you don't support abortion rights at all

I don't take orders from you

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You mean willing to call you on your bullshit?

Oh I think there's a fair number. Have you considered starting to tell the truth instead? You find you get called out on your bullshit a lot less when you do

You are so transparent