COP30 decided not to mention phasing out fossil fuels. A step in the right direction.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

eventually it will be largely superceded by renewables and nuclear.

Nobody has explained exactly how it could be done.  Any new energy source has to have an economic plan in it to give people good-paying jobs.  That is the problem.  Where does the money come from to make any "transition" financially viable?  Nobody is going to invest in any new industry unless they can make a profit.  Unless there is a profit in doing something, nobody will touch it.

[taxme]

On 11/23/2025 at 8:25 AM, eyeball said:

I guess it must be the growing numbers of guests I have who pull into my driveway with electric cars.

I don't expect you to understand because, as you should know, electric cars were never mentioned in the Bible.

I recently just read that for anyone who sits in an EV and is there for however long that they do sit in their EV car, they are now exposing themselves to plenty of hard radiation. As explained, an EV owner is sitting on top of a huge battery that is giving off massive amounts of radiation and it is like sitting inside your cell phone and getting plenty of radiation to douse oneself in. Sure, let them drive their EV's forever, but they are doing themselves plenty of harm by doing so. 😇

[taxme]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Nobody has explained exactly how it could be done.  Any new energy source has to have an economic plan in it to give people good-paying jobs.  That is the problem.  Where does the money come from to make any "transition" financially viable?  Nobody is going to invest in any new industry unless they can make a profit.  Unless there is a profit in doing something, nobody will touch it.

Just the other day i read that sitting in an EV while driving, and maybe sitting in their EV for some time, exposes the EV owner to massive amounts of radiation being given off by the EV battery. Sitting in an EV is like someone sitting inside their cell phones and then being bombarded by radiation coming off of that huge EV battery that is lying underneath their butts.

This is something all EV owners should be seriously thinking about because they may be doing great harm to themselves. Just saying. 😇

[suds]

13 hours ago, Barquentine said:

There will always be some need for fossil fuels, but eventually it will be largely superceded by renewables and nuclear.

According to Canada's Energy Regulator, we will require an additional 684 TWh of generating capacity by 2050 in addition to what we have right now.

That's 575 wind power installations each the size of Quebec's Seigneurie de Beaupre wind farm with its 164 units. And don't forget the life span of these babies is only 20-25 years. Or..... maybe 134 hydro electric power stations each the size of B.C.'s Site C power station (which you can't just stick any old place). Or.... 16 additional nuclear plants each the size of Bruce Nuclear Power Station with its 4 reactors. And on top of all that, everything has to be hooked up to the grid. And so what are we doing right now except arguing about pipelines? I mean, let's face facts. This is an enormous undertaking, and all this has to be built in the next 25 years to meet our energy needs. Nothing against pipelines either because we'll need the extra revenues from oil and gas to help pay for all this stuff. Fun, eh?

Edited November 25, 2025 by suds

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, blackbird said:

Nobody has explained exactly how it could be done.

FahCrisSake do some research!!! Lots of countries are already doing it.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

FahCrisSake do some research!!! Lots of countries are already doing it.

You think using blasphemy proves anything?   You need to be born again and repent.  The King James Bible New Testament will tell you how to be born again.

Are you heading for hell?  Read the King James Bible and find out.

You haven't given any explanation of how other countries have transitioned away from fossil fuels (if they even have) which is doubtful.  More likely a made-up claim.

Edited November 25, 2025 by blackbird

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

You haven't given any explanation of how other countries have transitioned away from fossil fuels (if they even have) which is doubtful.  More likely a made-up claim.

What do you mean if they have? Have you looked yourself?

Try a simple search string like countries that have transitioned away from fossil fuels 

Here I'll even do the work for you.

Google search

Shoot, I almost gave myself a blister doing that...you're welcome

[blackbird]

39 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What do you mean if they have? Have you looked yourself?

Try a simple search string like countries that have transitioned away from fossil fuels 

Here I'll even do the work for you.

Google search

Shoot, I almost gave myself a blister doing that...you're welcome

I looked and those countries didn't "transition" away from fossil fuels.  They are mostly very tiny countries.  Some have a lot of hydro power.  That proves nothing.  Just having the electricity in a small country produced without fossil fuels is not an example of a transition.  All countries are still using fossil fuels for almost everything.  We is B.C. have always had hydro-electric dams for electricity.  That doesn't prove anything.

Edited November 25, 2025 by blackbird

[taxme]

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What do you mean if they have? Have you looked yourself?

Try a simple search string like countries that have transitioned away from fossil fuels 

Here I'll even do the work for you.

Google search

Shoot, I almost gave myself a blister doing that...you're welcome

Do you look as dumb as you appear to sound dumb here, dummy. You are a stunned lieberal and you know nothing at all about anything. I believe that you may be developing a blister inside that brain dead head of yours. Just saying. LOL. 

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I looked and those countries didn't "transition" away from fossil fuels.  They are mostly very tiny countries.  Some have a lot of hydro power.  That proves nothing.  Just having the electricity in a small country produced without fossil fuels is not an example of a transition.  All countries are still using fossil fuels for almost everything.  We is B.C. have always had hydro-electric dams for electricity.  That doesn't prove anything.

You didn't see where it was mentioned: While no country has completely transitioned away from all fossil fuels (oil, gas, and coal), several nations have made significant strides in their electricity sectors, with some countries generating nearly all their power from non-fossil sources.

This is just a short list that's growing longer.

As pointed out before to you, saying something can't be done to people who are doing it says a lot more about you.

[blackbird]

34 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You didn't see where it was mentioned: While no country has completely transitioned away from all fossil fuels (oil, gas, and coal), several nations have made significant strides in their electricity sectors, with some countries generating nearly all their power from non-fossil sources.

This is just a short list that's growing longer.

As pointed out before to you, saying something can't be done to people who are doing it says a lot more about you.

The point is just having electricity produced by non-fossil fuels is not a transition from anything.  We in BC have used hydro electric dams for ages and we are not transitioning off fossil fuels.  So it proves nothing.  All those countries would be still using gas and diesel powered vehicles, ships, planes, and trucks etc.  So you have shown nothing to prove a country is transitioning.   What a tiny country does also proves nothing if they don't have the industries etc. that larger countries have.  They have nothing to transition from.  So what you are claiming is just a joke.

[suds]

Population of Norway is about 5.6 million. Relatively low Debt to GDP ratio. Almost all of it's electrical generation comes from hydroelectric sources. Sounds like those running Norway have things under control. So, small country, ridiculously small population, low debt, plenty of resources to produce hydroelectric power. Fantastic living standards I'll bet. But it's also one of the world's largest exporters of oil and gas. Surprise... surprise. So what's wrong with us being a bit like Norway?

Edited November 26, 2025 by suds

[eyeball]

39 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The point is just having electricity produced by non-fossil fuels is not a transition from anything.  We in BC have used hydro electric dams for ages and we are not transitioning off fossil fuels.  So it proves nothing.  All those countries would be still using gas and diesel powered vehicles, ships, planes, and trucks etc.  So you have shown nothing to prove a country is transitioning.   What a tiny country does also proves nothing if they don't have the industries etc. that larger countries have.  They have nothing to transition from.  So what you are claiming is just a joke.

This would be so much easier if you deniers and especially your political representatives would just come out and say unequivocally that you simply don't give single shit about climate change. Trying to argue this without science and instead trying to wade thru pointless points like yours is tiresome.

We really need to do some serious hatchet burying around the issue of climate change. I'm pretty sure most of you people are getting fed up too so...why not?

I actually hope Carney does try to force Alberta's pipeline thru BC. Following the inevitable clashes between police and protesters will be years of court challenges and more protesting. Canadian governments simply don't have the stomach for developing the pagan ethos for the sort of force I'm sure you'd like to see being applied against people who get in the way.

Good luck with it, violence will soon be all you people have left, your arguments to defend the indefensible just get sillier and more baseless all the time. I'm pretty sure you feel the same.