Prayer - What is it?

[John Johnston]

Pete the Weekend Fox Host and War mongers Version of Prayer.

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

Frigging hilarious. 

Edited April 17 by John Johnston

[User]

1 hour ago, John Johnston said:

Pete the Weekend Fox Host and War mongers Version of Prayer.

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

Frigging hilarious. 

I see you got the leftist talking points to mindlessly parrot today…

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Christianity 101: All people deserve mercy. To say otherwise is un-Christian.

Cite? 

Also that doesn't' mean it's evil.  Saying jesus wasn't the savior would also be un christian but it woudn't be evil. 

You suck at this. 

 

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Here's some of mine. Where's yours?

(There are many kinds of meditation. Mantras are only part of some of them. Mantras are also a big part of prayer.)

AI: Scientific studies show that meditation, particularly mindfulness, induces structural and functional brain changes (neuroplasticity) that reduce stress, anxiety, and depression while improving attention, memory, and emotional regulation. Research indicates it lowers cortisol, decreases amygdala reactivity, and improves connectivity in brain regions linked to focus and emotional stability. 

 

Considering you just proved me right i'll steal yours   Not that it was really 'proof' but still,,

Your point was that prayer is just simple repettion of a phrase and therefore meditation 

Yet... Your OWN STATEMENT says :Mantras are only part of some of them.:   

So by your own admission prayer is NOT mediation

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https://www.apa.org/topics/mindfulness/meditation

"Researchers reviewed more than 200 studies of mindfulness among healthy people and found mindfulness-based therapy was especially effective for reducing stress, anxiety, and depression. Mindfulness can also help treat people with specific problems including depression, pain, smoking, and addictionopens in new window. Some of the most promising research has looked at people with depression. Several studies have found, for example, that MBCT can significantly reduce relapseopens in new window in people who have had previous episodes of major depression.

What’s more, mindfulness-based interventions can improve physical health too. For example, mindfulness may reduce pain, fatigue, and stress in people with chronic pain. Other studies have found preliminary evidence that mindfulness might boost the immune system and help people recover more quickly from cold or flu. Harvard Gazette +7

https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm/pain/documents/meditation-facts.pdf

Many more that you can look up your self.

There are things prayer and meditation have in common (apart from the fact that a lot of prayer is meditation): The big money being made by by the Church and those making millions off the 'Mindfulness' industry. But the Church wins that contest hands down.

 

 none of that says anywhere that prayer is meditation  

HARD fail kiddo   You've just blown your own argument out of the water  

As suspected you were just making shit up out of your ass

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As suspected you were just making shit up out of your ass

So I've read all your 'proof' and citations. Took zero seconds since you have none.

So what have we learned about right-wing Christianity so far?

No belief in empathy.

No belief in mercy.

What do you have in common with Christ? You like a glass of Manischewitz now and then?

[User]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So I've read all your 'proof' and citations. Took zero seconds since you have none.

So what have we learned about right-wing Christianity so far?

No belief in empathy.

No belief in mercy.

What do you have in common with Christ? You like a glass of Manischewitz now and then?

Such a dishonest person you are.

You spend your time mocking faith, deriding Christian prayer, as if you don’t understand either, and now you only try to weaponize Christian faith to throw it in someone’s face when you don’t believe any of it. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So I've read all your 'proof' and citations. Took zero seconds since you have none.

If that's the case I provided more than you did. But you've already accepted that what I said was true, which isn't surprising it's fairly common knowledge and certainly easy to find with a quick search

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So what have we learned about right-wing Christianity so far?

Nothing. I never brought up right wing Christianity or any kind of Christianity. In fact I never even mentioned  a religion.

Let me guess, we're at the point where you are about to try and lie your way past the fact that you're looking stupid again, Start a fake argument about something I never said, and then try and argue against that   

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No belief in empathy.

No belief in mercy.

What do you have in common with Christ? You like a glass of Manischewitz now and then?

 

Lol  well as i said   You created a fake thing that I've never said and now you're trying to make that the argument

Kid. If your brains that dull, it sounds like you need to pray more  

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If that's the case I provided more than you did. But you've already accepted that what I said was true, which isn't surprising it's fairly common knowledge and certainly easy to find with a quick search

Which apparently you're not capable of.

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, User said:

Such a dishonest person you are.

You spend your time mocking faith, deriding Christian prayer, as if you don’t understand either, and now you only try to weaponize Christian faith to throw it in someone’s face when you don’t believe any of it.

Quote where I mocked faith? I mocked power/money hungry organizations.

So cry me a phuckin' river!

[User]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Quote where I mocked faith? I mocked power/money hungry organizations.

So cry me a phuckin' river!

"Prayer?

Humans can't stand the fact that we don't know why and how we are here only to die.

So we invent and call it Faith and our Faith makes it real. For some.

Or maybe:

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

We're only talking to ourselves, looking for comfort.

Hope, not Faith, is the best of human mindsets."

 

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Which apparently you're not capable of.

Awww  Snowflake.  

So we're at the part of the conversation where you realize you got your ass beat yet again and you can't do anything about it so you resort to grade 7 level insults or lower   LOLOL  It's always fun to watch you melt down. 

So here's what happened, 

Me - Prayer actually has a strong real world effect that's positive
Barqingmad -  "I don't like religion so i'm going to disagree without doing any research!!"

Me - "Your argument is entirely screwed up and here's the logic based factual reasons why"

Barquingupthewrongtree;  "DERP!!!  Well... uhh.. well....  U A POOPY HEAD!!!"

LOL!!

You know what the secret is to always being right? Don't let your feelings drive your argument.  And do your homework and only speak up when you know you've got a very solid case.

It would be vastly more interesting talking to you if you did that 

 

[Barquentine]

On 4/20/2026 at 1:27 AM, CdnFox said:

Me - Prayer actually has a strong real world effect that's positive
Barqingmad -  "I don't like religion so i'm going to disagree without doing any research!!"

Sounds like you post late night on Truth Social. Hmm... Does this site have a 25th amendment?

Please quote where you cited any of your 'research'.

And please quote where I said prayer has no effect.

[CrakHoBarbie]

On 4/19/2026 at 9:27 PM, CdnFox said:

 

Me - Prayer actually has a strong real world effect that's positive
 

This is true.

However, one must delude oneself into believing in imaginary entities in order to engage in it.

Do you think that belief in an invisible man, living in the sky, is a "positive real World" effect?

[User]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Sounds like you post late night on Truth Social. Hmm... Does this site have a 25th amendment?

Please quote where you cited any of your 'research'.

And please quote where I said prayer has no effect.

Why quote you? I did and you ignored it. 

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

This is true.

However, one must delude oneself into believing in imaginary entities in order to engage in it.

Do you think that belief in an invisible man, living in the sky, is a "positive real World" effect?

From the person who cries when we point out dudes who think they are women are not. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Sounds like you post late night on Truth Social. Hmm... Does this site have a 25th amendment?

Well it's Canadian so probably not, and sounds like you stay up late at night reading truth social    I've never actually visited the site

And as usual you know I'm right and you're angry about it so rather than actually address it you simply cry baby, sea lion and make personal insults

But here you go kiddo. Even a Chihuahua like you deserves to get a  bone once in awhile  

is prayer the same as meditation - Google Search

"Meditation and prayer are not the same"

prayer vs meditation effect on the brain - Google Search

"

• Differentiation:
  • Meditation tends to show more decrease in parietal lobe activity, which correlates to feelings of "oneness" or losing a sense of self.
  • Prayer often stimulates language areas (as it is verbal or conversational) and can have a more intense emotional charge depending on the belief system."

Do the effects of prayer and meditation on the brain compound or do you only get one benefit - Google Search

Yes, the effects of prayer and meditation on the brain are cumulative and, when practiced together, can have a compounding, synergistic effect.

 

That took all of three seconds. So you could have done it in under a minute. well... under 6 minutes i'm sure. No more than 10  

And if you read the research papers if anything it highlights that what I said is more true

Meditation and prayer are not the same thing.

Meditation and prayer have a different effect on the human brain although they share similarities

Meditation and prayer are cumulative. If you do one and then the other the benefits are stacked on top. So even if you are doing one you will benefit from doing the other

 

Your loss across the board kid    That's what happens when you start with an answer and try and logic your way back to the start. It's better to read the research first and then arrive at a conclusion.

 

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Meditation and prayer are not the same thing.

So how is repeating a memorized prayer any different than a mantra?

Some prayer is just meditation.

[John Johnston]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well it's Canadian so probably not, and sounds like you stay up late at night reading truth social    I've never actually visited the site

And as usual you know I'm right and you're angry about it so rather than actually address it you simply cry baby, sea lion and make personal insults

But here you go kiddo. Even a Chihuahua like you deserves to get a  bone once in awhile  

is prayer the same as meditation - Google Search

"Meditation and prayer are not the same"

prayer vs meditation effect on the brain - Google Search

"

• Differentiation:
  • Meditation tends to show more decrease in parietal lobe activity, which correlates to feelings of "oneness" or losing a sense of self.
  • Prayer often stimulates language areas (as it is verbal or conversational) and can have a more intense emotional charge depending on the belief system."

Do the effects of prayer and meditation on the brain compound or do you only get one benefit - Google Search

Yes, the effects of prayer and meditation on the brain are cumulative and, when practiced together, can have a compounding, synergistic effect.

 

That took all of three seconds. So you could have done it in under a minute. well... under 6 minutes i'm sure. No more than 10  

And if you read the research papers if anything it highlights that what I said is more true

Meditation and prayer are not the same thing.

Meditation and prayer have a different effect on the human brain although they share similarities

Meditation and prayer are cumulative. If you do one and then the other the benefits are stacked on top. So even if you are doing one you will benefit from doing the other

 

Your loss across the board kid    That's what happens when you start with an answer and try and logic your way back to the start. It's better to read the research first and then arrive at a conclusion.

 

Combining these practices can enhance spiritual growth and emotional well-being. A common approach is to begin with prayer to prepare your heart and invite God’s presence, then move into meditation to listen and reflect. This integration deepens focus, strengthens spiritual connection, and promotes inner peace. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So how is repeating a memorized prayer any different than a mantra?

Some prayer is just meditation.

The 'belief' element where you believe you are communicating with another entity seems to have a much different effect on the brian.  Interstingly that's true even if the person isn't a devout believer, it's more about the INTENT than whether you really believe the god exists. 

Brains are fascinating things.  You should get one, they're totally cool. 

[User]

8 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So how is repeating a memorized prayer any different than a mantra?

Some prayer is just meditation.

The purpose behind them. 

You might as well ask what is the difference between talking to your Mom on the phone vs talking to yourself. 
 

 

 

[blackbird]

On 9/23/2025 at 6:02 PM, August1991 said:

Some people see prayer as a ritual, something to do.

Other people view prayer as a request to God. 

I reckon that prayer is talking to oneself.

Then you are lost spiritually and need to be born again. God is omnipresent and there when you are ready.  Read the gospel of John, King James Bible.

[eyeball]

On 4/22/2026 at 12:45 PM, User said:

The purpose behind them. 

You might as well ask what is the difference between talking to your Mom on the phone vs talking to yourself.

At least you and your Mom are real. That's a distinction as opposed to a difference.

[blackbird]

On 4/21/2026 at 8:00 AM, CrakHoBarbie said:

This is true.

However, one must delude oneself into believing in imaginary entities in order to engage in it.

Do you think that belief in an invisible man, living in the sky, is a "positive real World" effect?

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation." Hebrews 9:27, 28 King James Version