Canada to stall electric vehicle rules as Carney seeks to boost auto sector

[herbie]

FYI I drove a Wrangler that charged up with gasoline. But unlike most drivers that can only see the license plate of the car in front of them clearly, I notice the mountains and glaciers, the hare on the side of the road and the speed signs as well as the kid on the sidewalk, the cafe and chargers in every damn town. Even in some rest stops when you stop to pee.
You should try more going outside and looking before you simply call everyone else outside Cement City liars. It's 2025 in the whole country not just in your concrete cubicle. 
Even got 5 chargers in 2 locations in my town that has just one BEV, a Chevy Bolt.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

FYI I drove a Wrangler that charged up with gasoline. 

😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😅😅😅

After all that  LOLOLOL 

You're priceless bud  

[herbie]

blueless and inattentive as our post it in bold colours butthead aren't you?
In all these years of discuaaion about EVs I've never claimed that I owned one, only that I'm looking for some kind of hybrid for my next vehicle. And I definitely will not buy a straight ICE machine.

Now if you seem to think I can't talk about or promote EVs because I don't own one, let's mention the female side of that thought process and talk about uteruses, shall we?

 

 

[Nefarious Banana]

On 9/17/2025 at 5:58 PM, herbie said:

blueless and inattentive as our post it in bold colours butthead aren't you?
In all these years of discuaaion about EVs I've never claimed that I owned one, only that I'm looking for some kind of hybrid for my next vehicle. And I definitely will not buy a straight ICE machine.

Now if you seem to think I can't talk about or promote EVs because I don't own one, let's mention the female side of that thought process and talk about uteruses, shall we?

 

 

Put the bottle down. Your posts are even more senseless when you're drunk.

[CdnFox]

On 9/17/2025 at 5:58 PM, herbie said:

blueless and inattentive as our post it in bold colours butthead aren't you?

uhhhhhh..... you ok there big guy?

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In all these years of discuaaion about EVs I've never claimed that I owned one, only that I'm looking for some kind of hybrid for my next vehicle. And I definitely will not buy a straight ICE machine.

Now if you seem to think I can't talk about or promote EVs because I don't own one, let's mention the female side of that thought process and talk about uteruses, shall we?

 

Kid, you literally just spent pages talking about how you travelled the roads and how  your gauge tells you how many miles to the next charger and crap   And in the end you have zero experience with it, have no idea how far apart the chargers are, don't have a clue as to whether or not they even WORK (a chronic problem) or how long it takes to charge etc  

ANd yeah, you can't sit there and pretend you understand what its like owning an ev if you've never owned one.  You can talk in general terms but no, you don't get to say how easy it is to drive the alaskan highway in one having never done it 

I'm sure there's all kinds of crap you IMAGINE yourself to be good at that you're not actually. Like thinking  

 

 

 

[herbie]

14 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Put the bottle down. Your posts are even more senseless when you're drunk.

says the dope with not a thing worth saying.ever

Unfortunately, the only other sensible opinion on the subject of EVs got himself booted from the site.

Edited September 23, 2025 by herbie

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, herbie said:

says the dope with not a thing worth saying.ever

Unfortunately, the only other sensible opinion on the subject of EVs got himself booted from the site.

There's nothing sensible about your views. You dishonest, you won't address the real problems, you ignore the facts even when they're presented to you. You have this unreasonable airy fairy idea of how Evie's work and it's all in your mind, none of us based in reality.

Eevees are good choice for a small segment of the population. That segment has largely been serviced and now EV sales are falling. The technology is just not there yet to replace ice vehicles and even 50% of the cases. Suitable for maybe 20 to 30% of people and even that is getting to be Highly Questionable considering places are banning them because of the problems with the lithium fires

When the technology is ready everybody's going to switch and nobody will have to be forced to. Same as it was with cars and horses we're just not there yet and that's the simple truth

[LinkSoul60]

On 9/17/2025 at 5:29 PM, herbie said:

FYI I drove a Wrangler that charged up with gasoline. But unlike most drivers that can only see the license plate of the car in front of them clearly, I notice the mountains and glaciers, the hare on the side of the road and the speed signs as well as the kid on the sidewalk, the cafe and chargers in every damn town. Even in some rest stops when you stop to pee.
You should try more going outside and looking before you simply call everyone else outside Cement City liars. It's 2025 in the whole country not just in your concrete cubicle. 
Even got 5 chargers in 2 locations in my town that has just one BEV, a Chevy Bolt.

Was up in the 100 Mile area a couple weeks ago and saw chargers all the way up the canyon. Missed going up last year but really noticed how many more there were this time. I have a plug-in hybrid so no need to charge along the way but if I had to, it would have been seamless.  

[herbie]

Child. I know exactly how EVs work from the motor windings to the battery chemical composition to the programming and set up of the onboard computers. I know where the charging stations are and aren't all along the highways I drive and what kind of connectors are what.

I've been hobbying and schooled in electrical, electronic and mechanical engineering since the 1960s, worked in telecommunications and microwave transmission since you were a fetus.
I ran propane vehicles when it was 9c/L and gas was 53c, and LNG ones too. And fully understand an electric propulsion system that's 90% fuel efficient and delivers 100& torque over 100% RPM is better than one that's 40% fuel efficient with a limited range of torque. So do ALL the railways. That's why N American ones use hybrid diesel electrics. And why they still use trolley buses today.

You clearly don't. So who's dishonest here buddy?

[CdnFox]

Just now, herbie said:

Child.

You're calling linksoul a child?

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I know exactly how EVs work

You don't know how your lawnmower works. 

 

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I've been hobbying and schooled in electrical, electronic and mechanical engineering since the 1960s, worked in telecommunications and microwave transmission since you were a fetus.

You were a glint in the milkman's eye when i was a toddler. kiddo.  But it's no surprise you'd lie about it 
 

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I ran propane vehicles when it was 9c/L and gas was 53c,

That certainly makes you an expert on EV's.  I mean, ev's and propane is pretty much identical.  🙄🙄 

It is painfully obvious listening to you that you know nothing.

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

And fully understand an electric propulsion system that's 90% fuel efficient and delivers 100& torque over 100% RPM is better than one that's 40% fuel efficient with a limited range of torque.

No, it isn't.

Let me put that in stark contrast for you. If the electrical propulsion system could only drive 2 km before needing 24 hours to charge it would be worse.

You have to be 30 different kinds of stupid just to think that the amount of torque or even the efficiency of the fuel makes a vehicle better or worse in and of itself.

You've basically just proven that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Everything you said before about your experience just went out the window with that one statement.

If Ev's didn't require charging, if the battery is weren't affected by cold, if the fires from the batteries weren't five times more dangerous and if the cost of purchase and ownership over the first two or three years was the same as an ice, then you could argue it was a superior vehicle. Unfortunately all of those things are still a problem and Evie's only makes sense for about 20 to 30% of the market

Way to shame yourself there big guy

 

[herbie]

18 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

noticed how many more there were this time. I have a plug-in hybrid so no need to charge along the way but if I had to, it would have been seamless.  

So don't be surprised when one of the bozos calls you a liar. We're talking people who look out the basement window and don't see a charging station and conclude it's still 2001 so there aren't any. And at the same time forget about the plug outside they use for their weed whacker.

Almost bought a 2025 Kia PHEV off the lot, it was little more than my Saturn Vue cost in 2005 (loaded AWD). May rethink it soon when the 2026s hit the lot. And before winter hits and I have to plug the Wrangler in every damn night anyway.

[Nefarious Banana]

13 minutes ago, herbie said:

So don't be surprised when one of the bozos calls you a liar. We're talking people who look out the basement window and don't see a charging station and conclude it's still 2001 so there aren't any. And at the same time forget about the plug outside they use for their weed whacker.

You're not a liar herbie, it's just your good natured bullsh!t that no one believes.  

Did you stop in to look at the Site C dam.  Hunted up the Peace and Moberly for many years . . . now all under water.  That's so the wanker crowd, and the wanna'~be wankers like yourself can call yourself 'green' . . . 

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, herbie said:

So don't be surprised when one of the bozos calls you a liar. We're talking people who look out the basement window and don't see a charging station and conclude it's still 2001 so there aren't any. And at the same time forget about the plug outside they use for their weed whacker.

Almost bought a 2025 Kia PHEV off the lot, it was little more than my Saturn Vue cost in 2005 (loaded AWD). May rethink it soon when the 2026s hit the lot. And before winter hits and I have to plug the Wrangler in every damn night anyway.

People in cold climates are reporting even worse performance with eVS.

And frankly the opinion of someone else who hasn't done something about how easy it is to do it's kind of a joke. The people that have actually done it have reported numerous problems. You might be fine for one trip or two trips but then all of a sudden you stop somewhere in the charges aren't working, And the next one is too far away. Or your battery is not performing as well as it should because it's cold. Or any number of other problems.

So when you sit here and bullshit about how easy it is and you know how easy it is because you've seen it charging station before it makes you sound like a complete Fool

 

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

So don't be surprised when one of the bozos calls you a liar. We're talking people who look out the basement window and don't see a charging station and conclude it's still 2001 so there aren't any. And at the same time forget about the plug outside they use for their weed whacker.

Almost bought a 2025 Kia PHEV off the lot, it was little more than my Saturn Vue cost in 2005 (loaded AWD). May rethink it soon when the 2026s hit the lot. And before winter hits and I have to plug the Wrangler in every damn night anyway.

Nothing the usual fools say surprises me....  EV's don't fall into the anti-climate rhetoric that Trump taught them so they're compelled to talk them down.  I think the PHEV is the way to go....  obviously distances depending but if the majority of your driving is city/short distances a tank of gas will last for a month or two and if you need to go a long distance then you have the combustable engine.  We'll be looking in the next year or so to replace my wife's car and a straight EV may be the choice there with her driving virtually all city/local.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Nothing the usual fools say surprises me....  EV's don't fall into the anti-climate rhetoric that Trump taught them so they're compelled to talk them down.  I think the PHEV is the way to go....  obviously distances depending but if the majority of your driving is city/short distances a tank of gas will last for a month or two and if you need to go a long distance then you have the combustable engine.  We'll be looking in the next year or so to replace my wife's car and a straight EV may be the choice there with her driving virtually all city/local.  

As usual when you can't address the actual facts you fall into personal attacks and leftist rhetoric

There are major problems with driving from here to Alaska with recharging. Batteries don't work as well on the cold. Any fires are outrageously violent compared to regular fires and the smoke is hypertoxic

TVs are appropriate for about 30% of the market and that's about it. The technology changes that number will grow

Meanwhile children like you will blame trump because the facts don't support you

[herbie]

3 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

That's so the wanker crowd, and the wanna'~be wankers like yourself can call yourself 'green' . . . 

Yet another dimwit who didn't know Site C was in the plans decades ago for him to shoot Pokemons on his 1500 watt video card. Or that it was green energy before anyone thouFght of the word.

 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Meanwhile children like you will blame trump

Finally speaks of something he knows. Down to the curve of the hairs on Trumps butthole.

[herbie]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

We'll be looking in the next year or so to replace my wife's car and a straight EV may be the choice there with her driving virtually all city/local.

BIL looking at an EV or PHEV he  does tons of city driving in the Fraser Valley, mostly sales and family chores. Can write off a lease and use his pickup only when needed. Nuts to haul 2 tons of steel 6 seat 4x4 V8 around daily even if you're out of the transit levy area.
If we had the lease rates some US ppl are finding for EVs, I'd already be writing one off as a business expense.

[LinkSoul60]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

BIL looking at an EV or PHEV he  does tons of city driving in the Fraser Valley, mostly sales and family chores. Can write off a lease and use his pickup only when needed. Nuts to haul 2 tons of steel 6 seat 4x4 V8 around daily even if you're out of the transit levy area.
If we had the lease rates some US ppl are finding for EVs, I'd already be writing one off as a business expense.

lol...  not the main reason but one of them was the loss of having someone pay my gas after I retired. I had that good fortune my entire career and didn't like when I had to start paying 😂  I did the 'business use' claiming of insurance, maintenance, license with cra but that wasn't a big tax benefit for me.  It was time for a new vehicle anyway and was set on a PHEV. I put a few on but wouldn't say lots of miles...set the timer charge for overnight and seems like I'm only at the gas station once month if that. Have had it a year now and so far, real happy with it.  Every day I'm seeing more EV and PHEV on the road.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Finally speaks of something he knows. Down to the curve of the hairs on Trumps butthole.

I won't ask how you know the curves of trumps butthole but i will point out that once again when you're wrong you get into weird homosexual fantasies. what's that about?

 

[Nefarious Banana]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Site C was in the plans decades ago . . . . 

Tell me about your EV car trip up the Alaska Highway . . . . plug in at Mae's Kitchen ?  Trutch Mountain Lodge ?

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Tell me about your EV car trip up the Alaska Highway . . . . plug in at Mae's Kitchen ?  Trutch Mountain Lodge ?

He's done it MANY times.  

Well... sort of.  I mean he was playing Grand Theft Auto 2025 EV ALASKA edition, but THAT STILL COUNTS GODDAMIT!

[LinkSoul60]

10 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Tell me about your EV car trip up the Alaska Highway . . . . plug in at Mae's Kitchen ?  Trutch Mountain Lodge ?

I've never driven the Alaskan Hwy but according to BC Hydro and Northern info there are chargers every ~150 kms or so.  Doesn't appear driving an EV on it is a challenge at all ....

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/drive/mobility/article-promise-of-rural-ev-road-trips-grows-as-first-nations-help-bridge/#:~:text=Since I travelled the highways,let them cross the road.

https://www.travelnbc.com/2023/07/12/sustainability-in-the-region-driving-the-alaska-highway-in-an-electric-vehicle/

https://pluginbc.ca/b-c-s-electric-highway-nearly-complete-with-more-chargers-and-serious-upgrades-on-the-way/

[Nefarious Banana]

19 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I've never driven the Alaskan Hwy but according to BC Hydro and Northern info there are chargers every ~150 kms or so.  Doesn't appear driving an EV on it is a challenge at all ....

It's relatively tame now.  Pavement, cell coverage, amenities, etc.

This time of the year, there's an exodus of motorhomes, big 5th wheels, etc. with Alabama, Missouri, Florida, etc. plates heading back stateside.

It's not like it was in the early '70's when we carried barrels of gas and multiple spare tires, and would get a new windshield after a trip . . . 

It's safe now for the hordes of herbies . . .

Plug in herbie . . . the north awaits you. 

 

[ExFlyer]

15 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

It's relatively tame now.  Pavement, cell coverage, amenities, etc.

This time of the year, there's an exodus of motorhomes, big 5th wheels, etc. with Alabama, Missouri, Florida, etc. plates heading back stateside.

It's not like it was in the early '70's when we carried barrels of gas and multiple spare tires, and would get a new windshield after a trip . . . 

It's safe now for the hordes of herbies . . .

Plug in herbie . . . the north awaits you. 

 

Don't you just hate it when facts outweigh your BS and you have to make a surreptitious apology for your ignorance of them? LOL

[herbie]

Living west on Hwy 16 we see mostly those RVs coming back from the Alaska ferry in Prince Rupert or using the Hwy 37 route to the Alaska Hwy. For the next couple months, hunters.
Saw one towing a Chevy Bolt near Kitwanga. Confident enough to use that to buzz into town from their campsites. Couple more towing Kei trucks fpr that and for more off roading.

A friend told me they park at a mall where they don't shut the winter plugins off, do their shopping, so across the street for dinner and add a 'safety top up' charge even at the 110V plug. When they stay overnight those plugs will do pretty much a full charge overnight.

Her mor0n son decided to 'test the range' and drove to a nearby gold mine, got it stuck 200 km up a dirt road... towing coat was about 3 days pay for him, expensive stupidity lesson.