Canada Sustainable? Oil vs Milk

[August1991]

Is federal Canada sustainable?

We can't buy foreign milk.

And Albertans can't sell their oil abroad.

Voters in Ontario are curious to know.

[herbie]

Both misinformation

There WAS American milk in our grocery store and no one bought it. The carton's were noticeably smaller, the price wasn't less, and people wer convinced it was riddled with hormones, anti-biotics and chemical additives

Alberta has sold their oil abroad for years. Through US Gulf Coast terminals and lately, thanks only to Justin Tudeau, through TMX in Burnaby BC.

Voters in Ontario should attempt to learn something before shooting off dumb questions.

[herbie]

You want a REAL oil vs milk story.

This is from my Dad, the head chemist at a refinery, back in the early 1970s when one of his friends griped about the rising gas prices.

We have to go halfway around the word with an army, start a war and beat a country senseless, steal their oil and ship it all the way back, pipe it, refine it, and send it to the stations.
You put a cow out in the field and milk it.
You should ask why milk costs so much more than gas.

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, August1991 said:

Is federal Canada sustainable?

We can't buy foreign milk.

And Albertans can't sell their oil abroad.

Voters in Ontario are curious to know.

False.   "In the 2023/24 dairy year, Canada imported approximately 13,734 tonnes of milk under various trade agreements." https://www.progressivepublish.com/downloads/2024/general/2023-ca-stats-lowres.pdf

False What is flowing in the pipelines to BC ports???  Alberta beef or air?? LOL

Voters in Ontario know, that is why they voted Liberal.

 

 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 7/3/2025 at 1:02 PM, herbie said:

Both misinformation

There WAS American milk in our grocery store and no one bought it. The carton's were noticeably smaller, the price wasn't less, and people wer convinced it was riddled with hormones, anti-biotics and chemical additives

Alberta has sold their oil abroad for years. Through US Gulf Coast terminals and lately, thanks only to Justin Tudeau, through TMX in Burnaby BC.

Voters in Ontario should attempt to learn something before shooting off dumb questions.

You're talking about misinformation while you're acting like hamstringing the economy, and then using taxpayer money to bring it up to a fraction of what it should be is progress. 

And FYI, shipping oil into the US at 60% of what it's worth isn't a bonus either. 

It's no wonder most liberals have to chug d to make ends meet.

[herbie]

If you never saw American milk, you didn't look. 

And dumb enough to think if we got 40% more for our oil, YOU'D be paying for it too. Bawl to get rid of 17c carbon tax and then lobby to pay 60c more at the pump to oil companies. Dumb as the fools thinking tariffs will make themselves rich.....

[August1991]

On 7/3/2025 at 4:02 PM, herbie said:

Both misinformation

There WAS American milk in our grocery store and no one bought it. The carton's were noticeably smaller, the price wasn't less, and people wer convinced it was riddled with hormones, anti-biotics and chemical additives

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Additives? Gimme a break.

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Here's your tell kids: Have you ever noticed that grocery stores have TWO very separate cheese sections?

-One section -close to margarine- is for the standard Canadian 400g Cheddar/Brick/Mozzarella.

-Another section in the store -closer to the deli- is for the high-end Oka, Brie.

[ExFlyer]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You're talking about misinformation while you're acting like hamstringing the economy, and then using taxpayer money to bring it up to a fraction of what it should be is progress. 

And FYI, shipping oil into the US at 60% of what it's worth isn't a bonus either. 

It's no wonder most liberals have to chug d to make ends meet.

Here is the reason WCS is the price it is:

"The price of Alberta oil sold to the U.S. is not set by a single entity, but rather determined by global market forces of supply and demand, with the price influenced by various factors like oil quality, marketability, and logistics. While benchmarks like Western Canada Select (WCS) and West Texas Intermediate (WTI) play a role in pricing, they reflect the interplay of these market factors, not dictate them"

"WTI (West Texas Intermediate) and WCS (Western Canada Select) are key benchmarks used in the oil market. WTI is a globally recognized benchmark, while WCS is more specific to Western Canadian heavy crude. "

"The price of Alberta oil can vary depending on its quality (density, sulfur content), how easily it can be refined and marketed, and the availability of infrastructure to transport it. There isn't a single entity that sets the price for Alberta oil. Instead, the price is a result of the complex interaction of supply, demand, and the specific characteristics of the oil being trade"

 

So, it is not political and not a price at the pump thing or even a negotiation.

[herbie]

15 hours ago, August1991 said:

Additives? Gimme a break.

What do you think hormones, steroids and anti-biotics do? THey certainly don't remove things from milk.
You going to go along with Tumpy's BS that countires can't set their own food standards, only US standards matter?

This is a petty issue that's gone on for decades. Insisting other countries must open ALL their markets to US so-called competition.

[August1991]

On 7/6/2025 at 4:13 PM, herbie said:

What do you think hormones, steroids and anti-biotics do? THey certainly don't remove things from milk.

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This is a petty issue that's gone on for decades. Insisting other countries must open ALL their markets to US so-called competition.

It is not a petty issue. In France, I buy food that clearly states its origin.

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When I buy milk or cheese in Canada, I want to know its origin.

Heck, let me decide whether it is good.

 

Edited Thursday at 02:59 AM by August1991