PM Carney's chant of stop the war in Gaza is saying let Hamas carry on its attacks on Israel

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48 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They were not resisting anything

Except for ongoing relentless dispossession, oppression and subjugation - AKA Israel defending itself.

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

And here you go again with your BS excuses and apologies for a conflict that Zionists started a century ago, and now you'll run away again.

Yes, of course! For as long as Israel exists, to folks like you, that justifies the “resistance” like that on October 7th.

 

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1 hour ago, User said:

Yes, of course! For as long as Israel exists, to folks like you, that justifies the “resistance” like that on October 7th.

No it doesn't, no more than Oct 7 justifies the response to it.

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3 hours ago, Legato said:

That's rich from someone who clearly is biased in support of Hamas, and that's giving you credit for being clueless.

Nope I'm just not biased towards the IDF.

That said both Israelis and Palestinians deserve empathy for the situation they were thrust into - and for the same reason.

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6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No it doesn't, no more than Oct 7 justifies the response to it.

Once again you stick up for Hamas both ways!

First you defend them doing it and now you oppose any response to it. 

You cowardly and dishonestly support these terrorists and what they did on the 7th.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Except for ongoing relentless dispossession, oppression and subjugation - AKA Israel defending itself.

Nope.  Nothing. Certainly not the bullshit lies you're trying to foist. 

They hoped to get more money and more concessions and political power from the un, and they like killing jews. That's what happened. They weren't resisting anything, Sorry, but your fake narrative just doesn't hold water. 

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1 hour ago, User said:

First you defend them doing it and now you oppose any response to it. 

 

No I don't.

1 hour ago, User said:

You cowardly and dishonestly support these terrorists and what they did on the 7th.

No I don't, you simply like to characterize anything that isn't 100% hard-boiled support for your position that way. It's 100% false.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Nope.  Nothing. Certainly not the bullshit lies you're trying to foist. 

They hoped to get more money and more concessions and political power from the un, and they like killing jews. That's what happened. They weren't resisting anything, Sorry, but your fake narrative just doesn't hold water. 

What bullshit lies and fake narrative? You haven't got the first clue what anyone is even talking about.

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15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No I don't, you simply like to characterize anything that isn't 100% hard-boiled support for your position that way. It's 100% false.

Yeah right. You just got done justifying Hamas attack and in the next breath saying Israel can't respond. 

 

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2 minutes ago, User said:

You just got done justifying Hamas attack and in the next breath saying Israel can't respond. 

That's not what I said at all. You're flat out lying.

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

What bullshit lies and fake narrative?

The ones we've been pointing out to you for 13 pages now  LOLOL

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You haven't got the first clue what anyone is even talking about.

Amusingly, everyone's talking about how you haven't got the first clue   Which makes your comment mildly hilarious  

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's not what I said at all. You're flat out lying.

It is what you said and he's telling the truth. 

And oh look, once again you've got to go back and try to rewrite what you've said because you got called out for your bullshit 

You blame israel for the october attack, you've blamed Canada (somehow) and a bunch of other players but you constantly give hamas a free ride.  (They're just RESISTING i tell ya! Theyve got the right!)

And people point it out and you're like 'NONONONONO!!!! I didn't mean they were RESISTING.... I just meant that it's entirely israel's fault that they had to resist!!!

Yeash. There's probably some youtube videos on basic logic if that'll help....

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10 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's not what I said at all. You're flat out lying.

This was you:

"No it doesn't, no more than Oct 7 justifies the response to it."

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2 hours ago, User said:

This was you:

"No it doesn't, no more than Oct 7 justifies the response to it."

That's right, what I said supports my previous statement that said the conflict started by Zionists does not justify  committing atrocities in response.

And Palestinians have the right to resist. Two things can be true at the same time.

Neither however have the right to commit atrocities like human rights abuses and war crimes against one another.

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Just now, eyeball said:

That's right, what I said supports my previous statement that said the conflict started by Zionists does not justify  committing atrocities in response.

And Palestinians have the right to resist. Two things can be true at the same time.

Neither however have the right to commit atrocities like human rights abuses and war crimes against one another.

You vaguely say "the response" and now you shift to more specifically saying human rights abuses and war crimes... but even then, there is no amount of war here that you effectively support when we drill down into it. 

 

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

 

And Palestinians have the right to resist.

Claiming that the Palestinians had the right to October 7th is in fact supporting Hamas and justifying their actions

Edited June 10, 2025 by CdnFox

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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Claiming that the Palestinians had the right to October 7th is in fact supporting Hamas and justifying their actions

No it isn't. Every human on the planet is born with the right to resist oppression, all the time.

Saying otherwise is a denial and betrayal of that right not to mention an abysmal misunderstanding of human nature.

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37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No it isn't. Every human on the planet is born with the right to resist oppression, all the time.

Of course it is. You're PRETENDING this was some resistance to oppression which it 100 percent was not.  And nobody has the right to resist oppression by killing civilians. And resisting oppression absolutely does not involve hiding behind your own population so that they get killed to generate sympathy at the UN. 

Pretending that 'every human on the planet' has the right to slaughter innocent civilians in a surprise military attack during a time of peace is absolutely condoning their behavior and the oct 7 attack. 

And if you're going to argue that, then it's also fair to say the gazans repressed the rights of the jews during the attack so every single gazan civillian who gets killed is just " israel exercising their right to resist oppression' and there are no war crimes. 

Twist all you like you keep coming back to supporting the terrorists and excusing their actions. This had NOTHING to do with resisting oppression,

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Pretending that 'every human on the planet' has the right to slaughter innocent civilians in a surprise military attack during a time of peace is absolutely condoning their behavior and the oct 7 attack. 

I repeat, no one has the right to slaughter innocent civilians.

Also, Palestinians have been oppressed without peace for nearly 100 years now.

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5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I repeat, no one has the right to slaughter innocent civilians.

 

But in two minutes you'll ALSO repeat that they had a RIGHT to do so because EVERY HUMAN does if they're repressed and fighting back

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Also, Palestinians have been oppressed without peace for nearly 100 years now.

Bullshit, but irrelevant UNLESS you're trying to suggest that it justifies the attack on civilians 

Looks like i was 1:59 minutes off

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Just now, CdnFox said:

Of course it is. 

No it isn't.

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Bullshit, but irrelevant UNLESS you're trying to suggest that it justifies the attack on civilians 

And you'll keep going in circles because you refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of old outstanding and unresolved Palestinian grievances and why they'll always be relevant.

Resistance is inevitable. This does not however excuse or condone any atrocities committed while resisting.

Are you suggesting the atrocities Israel commits while subjugating Palestinians are justified?

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

And you'll keep going in circles because you refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of old outstanding and unresolved Palestinian grievances and why they'll always be relevant.

Resistance is inevitable. This does not however excuse or condone any atrocities committed while resisting.

Are you suggesting the atrocities Israel commits while subjugating Palestinians are justified?

Define the totality of what you mean by resistance here. 

If you refuse, then it is settled that you do in fact consider the attacks on October 7th to be resistance. 

 

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

No it isn't.

As i've proven it is without a doubt. i get why you want to lie about it tho. You get this way every time you're called out for your bullshit. 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

And you'll keep going in circles because you refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of old outstanding and unresolved Palestinian grievances and why they'll always be relevant.

You mean i keep speaking the truth. 

The grievances are irrelevant to their actions today.  you DESPERATELY want those grievences to justify their actions today. They do not. 

They had a choice, find a way to address their issues and live in peace or live in war and conflict. Both were entirely possible. They chose war and conflict, the past is utterly irrelevant to that.  We all have a past. We all make our own decisions today. 

And they weren't fighting repression, they were attempting to score points with the UN for power and profit. 

There is NO POSSIBLE EXCUSE that mitigates their choice, none.  You want there to be so you can say their actions were justified.  They are not, 

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42 minutes ago, User said:

Define the totality of what you mean by resistance here.

An unwillingness to submit to oppression, subjugation and dispossession.

45 minutes ago, User said:

If you refuse, then it is settled that you do in fact consider the attacks on October 7th to be resistance. 

Of course it was and it was as atrocious as oppression, subjugation and dispossession.