Trump wants to bypass immigration courts. Experts warn it's a 'slippery slope.'

[CDN1]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

My assumptions aren't assumptions, and they are not wrong, so what is your goddamn point? 

There's no mystery about you, so stop pretending. It makes you look even more ridiculous. 

Again, your sociopathic lack of empathy is on full display. The vast majority of people affected by this have not done anything more than you have. They just happen to have brown skin, so they are being targeted for "interviews." This has been going on for decades, but is turned up to 11 under Trump, now that he's sending ICE to schools and churches, which used to be off limits. Children are afraid. Their parents are afraid. And your response is that I'm racist for acknowledging that fact? Jeebus.

No, you don't worry about those things because you're white, and in Trumpistan you are favored and protected. ICE is absolutely scrutinizing and interviewing people who fit the visual profile of immigrants. People don't walk around with immigrant armbands (yet) so ICE does what they have always done, just more aggressively. 

Again, that you pretend that this VERY obvious fact is not a part of your fairy-tale post-racial world is just a glaring lack of empathy. Not only do you not give a shit about the suffering of others, you pretend like it's not even happening. It's disgusting.

On this we agree. You are actively trying to pretend that race is not involved here. As if ICE has x-ray vision to see into people's immigration history. ICE visually profiles. ICE linguistically profiles. In the same way that police scrutinize and harass Black Americans based on visual profile rather than on invisible attributes.

 

Weaponizing your suicidal empathy & gaslighting is sociopathic. 

White people are being conditioned to unilaterally disarm and submit to a socially engineered genocide across Western societies.

Liberal institutions and levers of mainstreamed culture have been overrun by an anti-White suicidal/revenge cult.

Normalizing anti-White scapegoating and discrimination, shutting down debate, while flooding nations with radical demographic change is the greatest existential threat to the future of Western civilization.

This only gets worse as we approach demographic tipping point. A violent power vacuum, descent into barbarism awaits.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 05:08 PM by CDN1

[robosmith]

On 5/1/2025 at 8:18 AM, Nationalist said:

Sorry? These animals deserve a cap in the head. Mayorkis deserves a cage for the rest of his miserable life.

Stay slimy...you moral-less little twerp.

Thanks for admitting you're willing to trash our Constitution to satisfy YOUR RAGE.

People get TRIALS to make sure they are the perpetrator. Duh

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting you're willing to trash our Constitution to satisfy YOUR RAGE.

People get TRIALS to make sure they are the perpetrator. Duh

They're welcome to apply for one once they're out of the country.

[User]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting you're willing to trash our Constitution to satisfy YOUR RAGE.

People get TRIALS to make sure they are the perpetrator. Duh

We are not putting people on trials to send them to jail. We are talking about illegal immigrants in our country wrongly. 

 

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting you're willing to trash our Constitution to satisfy YOUR RAGE.

People get TRIALS to make sure they are the perpetrator. Duh

Point out in the constitution where it states democrats can flood the country with illegal aliens and keep them here until the lower courts see each one of them to decide whether they can stay or go. 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

My point is you are a bigot. And what you've shown everyone here is that you are proud of your bigotry.

 

As before--and for the MANY reasons identified, your "point" is poorly argues and quite asinine. 

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It is possible to have empathy and seek justice. Leniency is not a requirement of empathy. For those that broke the law to come here, I can empathize with their plight. But I can also demand they leave and enter the proper way. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, it is a tough, but necessary act of love. Have you not ever had a friend or loved one that was harming themselves and didn't want to hear it? And alcoholic maybe? Sometimes you have to tell them the truth even if it hurts them. Yes, I can and do empathize with people that came her illegally. But they have to go and do it the right way.

 

Apparently there's no number of time I can say it in order to make it sink in, but this affects FAR more people than those actually here illegally.

Whether that be people who are harassed for fitting "the profile," people traumatically abducted for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or individuals like the 4 year old citizen with stage 4 cancer who was shipped to Honduras alongside her undocumented mother--without medicine, btw. I'm sure that will end well. 

This is your idea of tough love? And you wonder why someone would question your empathy, or your basic decency as a human being? 

 

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Hasn't happened: ICE has not yet arrested children in school under Trump, education leaders say.

Everything in this paragraph is fabricated.

 

🙄 Trump authorizes ICE to target courthouses, schools and churches

Since you're not affected, you clearly aren't paying attention to what he's doing, taking the deliberate step of authorizing ICE to go into these places. 

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First, ICE is only going after people whose names appear on deportation and/or detainer orders. They aren't walking into schools and churches and yelling "If your brown, get down." Aside from the ethnicity of a name, they only know the skin color from the mug shot. But the mug shot and name had nothing to do with who they are targeting. Its the orders.

Patently false. ICE is "going after" anybody they encounter who looks the part. Again, you don't pay attention because you aren't affected. This is an explicit and deliberate policy change.

ICE lets local officials stop immigrants on the streets as task force program is back
The Trump administration has re-opened the 287(g) program that led to abuses in the 2000s.

As the Trump administration pushes for more deportations, the government has revived a long-abandoned program that lets local and state law enforcement challenge people on the street about immigration status — and possibly arrest them for deportation.

So far this week, state and county agencies in Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas have already signed up for the “task force” program that was dropped in 2012 after abuses including racial profiling were discovered, costing tens of millions in lawsuits. New Hampshire State Police will sign an agreement soon.

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Second...

There is no epidemic of fatal police shootings against unarmed Black Americans

I'm sorry that your fantasy world is being challenged. But you need to be challenged. You hold racist ideals and don't seem to understand just how racist you are. I'm done trying to help you for the moment. But you need to work on it.

Thanks for the op-ed. Meanwhile, the data still shows that Blacks are disproportionately killed by police, but also disproportionately targeted and disadvantaged at literally every stage of the justice system.

They are more likely to be:

• Scrutinized
• Stopped
• Arrested
• Charged
• Convicted
• Assigned harsher sentences
• Sentenced to death 

^^This is not in a vacuum. This is apples for apples, like for like in terms of actual offense. 

Not that you'll be bothered by that, because race doesn't matter (to the people not disadvantaged by race)!

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting you're willing to trash our Constitution to satisfy YOUR RAGE.

People get TRIALS to make sure they are the perpetrator. Duh

Trash the Constitution? And I quote...

"Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation"

Now...Tweenkie-Poo...take you insane whining and your constant litany of lies and deceit...and go play on the highway.

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, Hodad said:

As before--and for the MANY reasons identified, your "point" is poorly argues and quite asinine. 

Apparently there's no number of time I can say it in order to make it sink in, but this affects FAR more people than those actually here illegally.

Whether that be people who are harassed for fitting "the profile," people traumatically abducted for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or individuals like the 4 year old citizen with stage 4 cancer who was shipped to Honduras alongside her undocumented mother--without medicine, btw. I'm sure that will end well. 

This is your idea of tough love? And you wonder why someone would question your empathy, or your basic decency as a human being? 

 

🙄 Trump authorizes ICE to target courthouses, schools and churches

Since you're not affected, you clearly aren't paying attention to what he's doing, taking the deliberate step of authorizing ICE to go into these places. 

Patently false. ICE is "going after" anybody they encounter who looks the part. Again, you don't pay attention because you aren't affected. This is an explicit and deliberate policy change.

ICE lets local officials stop immigrants on the streets as task force program is back
The Trump administration has re-opened the 287(g) program that led to abuses in the 2000s.

As the Trump administration pushes for more deportations, the government has revived a long-abandoned program that lets local and state law enforcement challenge people on the street about immigration status — and possibly arrest them for deportation.

So far this week, state and county agencies in Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas have already signed up for the “task force” program that was dropped in 2012 after abuses including racial profiling were discovered, costing tens of millions in lawsuits. New Hampshire State Police will sign an agreement soon.

Thanks for the op-ed. Meanwhile, the data still shows that Blacks are disproportionately killed by police, but also disproportionately targeted and disadvantaged at literally every stage of the justice system.

They are more likely to be:

• Scrutinized
• Stopped
• Arrested
• Charged
• Convicted
• Assigned harsher sentences
• Sentenced to death 

^^This is not in a vacuum. This is apples for apples, like for like in terms of actual offense. 

Not that you'll be bothered by that, because race doesn't matter (to the people not disadvantaged by race)!

And once more...with feeling...

"Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation"

Now...you may go join robo-twit on the highway.

[robosmith]

12 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Trash the Constitution? And I quote...

"Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation"

Now...Tweenkie-Poo...take you insane whining and your constant litany of lies and deceit...and go play on the highway.

Are you ILLITERATE and NOT understand the meaning of "any person"?

Like I SAID, you're TRASHING the US Constitution.

Amdt14.S1.3 Due Process Generally - Constitution Annotated

Congress.gov

https://constitution.congress.gov › ALDE_00013743

 

The Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause provides that no state may deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

 

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Are you ILLITERATE and NOT understand the meaning of "any person"?

Like I SAID, you're TRASHING the US Constitution.

Amdt14.S1.3 Due Process Generally - Constitution Annotated

Congress.gov

https://constitution.congress.gov › ALDE_00013743

 

The Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause provides that no state may deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

 

NOT Illegal Aliens Facing Deportation...you dumb sh1t.

[User]

48 minutes ago, Hodad said:

This is your idea of tough love? And you wonder why someone would question your empathy, or your basic decency as a human being? 

YOU supported the madness to create this problem in the first place. 

Guess what? Every day all across America people are incorrectly arrested, stopped, detained, investigated for crimes they did not commit, because we have a ton of laws and law enforcement to deal with them. It is nothing new that OMG *GASP* someone might be incorrectly stopped, investigated, detained, arrested. You only care about it now in as much as it is because you support this ILLEGAL immigrant madness. 

As to the children? Read the fine print, that was a parental decision. The parents were here illegally, they chose to take their kids with them. 

You can't argue this based on facts, logic, and reason... you hide from me like the coward you are, and you want to sit here trying to play on emotions instead. 

 

[User]

45 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Are you ILLITERATE and NOT understand the meaning of "any person"?

Like I SAID, you're TRASHING the US Constitution.

We are not depriving people who are not supposed to be here of their life, their liberty, or their property. We are removing them from the country. They are here illegally. 

 

[robosmith]

38 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

NOT Illegal Aliens Facing Deportation...you dumb sh1t.

"Any person," lDIOT.

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

"Any person," lDIOT.

Again...NOT Illegal Aliens Facing Deportation...you dumb sh1t.

Do you understand English?

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

And once more...with feeling...

"Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing deportation"

Now...you may go join robo-twit on the highway.

I know that you're not very bright, but stop and think this through for a minute. How do you imagine, without due process, that one determines the legal status of a person scooped up off the street? 

That's why due process exists, to ensure that the law is followed and people aren't subject to the unchecked whims of a dictator.

Due process is for everyone, every time. It's essential. 

Edited Thursday at 08:38 PM by Hodad

[User]

46 minutes ago, robosmith said:

"Any person," lDIOT.

We are not depriving people who are not supposed to be here of their life, their liberty, or their property. We are removing them from the country. They are here illegally. 

[User]

19 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I know that you're not very bright, but stop and think this through for a minute. How do you imagine, without due process, that one determines the legal status of a person scooped up off the street? 

That's why due process exists, to ensure that the law is followed and people aren't subject to the unchecked whims of a dictator.

Due process is for everyone, every time. It's essential. 

OMG, are you not aware of expedited removals that were already happening?!

If a border patrol agent witnesses someone illegally crossing the border, we deport them right back. You don't have to spend the next 2 years of ACLU appeals to determine if they are here illegally or not. 


 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

I know that you're not very bright, but stop and think this through for a minute. How do you imagine, without due process, that one determines the legal status of a person scooped up off the street? 

That's why due process exists, to ensure that the law is followed and people aren't subject to the unchecked whims of a dictator.

Due process is for everyone, every time. It's essential. 

That's why the Constitution says "any person." 💡

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

That's why the Constitution says "any person." 💡

It doesn't matter Robo. @User and @Nationalist  both pointed out nobody was denied life, liberty or property. 

They had no legal right to be in country. And nothing at all prevents them from trying to enter using legal means moving forward.  But they'll have to apply from their home countries. 

There's no violation there

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

I know that you're not very bright, but stop and think this through for a minute. How do you imagine, without due process, that one determines the legal status of a person scooped up off the street? 

The same way that you determine without due process whether or not someone is licensed to drive a car. Or whether someone owns a piece of property.

There is documentation and if the documentation indicates that the person is not from this country and has not applied for the legal permissions or rights to stay in the country then that is sufficient.

They are absolutely free once they leave the country to apply to the court system if they feel something has been done unjustly and they will absolutely be given due process. But if they cannot demonstrate a right to stay in the country then they absolutely can be removed without having a court involved. If an error has occurred that has harmed them then they will have recourse through the courts.

It's pretty simple

[Nationalist]

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

I know that you're not very bright, but stop and think this through for a minute. How do you imagine, without due process, that one determines the legal status of a person scooped up off the street? 

That's why due process exists, to ensure that the law is followed and people aren't subject to the unchecked whims of a dictator.

Due process is for everyone, every time. It's essential. 

Due process is not afforded those being deported.!

If ya don't like the law...tough.

[Hodad]

52 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Due process is not afforded those being deported.!

If ya don't like the law...tough.

You have no idea what the law is. You have no idea what you are talking about in general. You're just a foreigner who is weirdly obsessed with the US and weirdly devoted to the big orange buffoon in the White House.  

There are laws. There is a process. They are not being followed. 

This abominable president, who quite recently swore an oath to uphold the constitution, now says he doesn't know if he has to uphold the constitution. 

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You have no idea what the law is. You have no idea what you are talking about in general. You're just a foreigner who is weirdly obsessed with the US and weirdly devoted to the big orange buffoon in the White House.  

There are laws. There is a process. They are not being followed. 

This abominable president, who quite recently swore an oath to uphold the constitution, now says he doesn't know if he has to uphold the constitution. 

ROFLMAO!!!

Ohhhh...poor babyyy... Here...

I quoted you the law. You don't like it. Cry me a river...Loser.

[User]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

You have no idea what the law is. You have no idea what you are talking about in general. You're just a foreigner who is weirdly obsessed with the US and weirdly devoted to the big orange buffoon in the White House.  

There are laws. There is a process. They are not being followed. 

This abominable president, who quite recently swore an oath to uphold the constitution, now says he doesn't know if he has to uphold the constitution. 

Hey, if you want to talk to someone who is going to give you the facts... here I am. You are a coward hiding from me though. 

 

[Deluge]

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

"Any person," lDIOT.

That's not what they meant, dumbass. Stupid assed conclusions like that are why the constitution needs to be clarified. 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

ROFLMAO!!!

Ohhhh...poor babyyy... Here...

I quoted you the law. You don't like it. Cry me a river...Loser.

As articulate as ever. I don't recall you citing anything. Not that you'd understand it in any case.