Polling, and the Asch Experiment

[WestCanMan]

For those of you who still doubt the value of using fake polling and fake news to change the outcome of elections, consider the Asch experiment:

https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html

Solomon Asch designed an experiment to see how much pressure to conform would influence people to give a blatantly wrong answer to a simple question.

He chose a question so simple that only 1% of people got it wrong in 6 different control groups, where there were no influencers. 

Then he asked the same question to 12 different groups of people where the first 6 people to answer had all agreed to give the same wrong answer, and the 7th person to answer was left unaware.

The inaccuracy of the 7th person went from 1% - the avg rate of incorrect answers in the control groups - to 32% in the test groups. Only 25% of people would never get sucked in even after doing the test multiple times. 

That's what social pressure does to the avg human.

So when the MSM and some key celebrities all say the same thing, and then it's all backed up by a bit of fake polling data, the average voter has very little control over what opinion they're going to voice. Only 25% of people will always fly in the face of conformity, even when the truth is clearly visible to the naked eye every time.

In other words, the naked eyeball will almost always knuckle under to the pressure to conform. 

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So when the MSM and some key celebrities all say the same thing, and then it's all backed up by a bit of fake polling data, the average voter has very little control over what opinion they're going to voice. 

Absolutely true.   And this might explain why FOX took the stock ticker off their pages after Trump's tariff madness sent the stock market into the tank in recent weeks.

The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so that America's #1 news source does what it was designed to do: keep the Republicans in power.

[WestCanMan]

58 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Absolutely true.   And this might explain why FOX took the stock ticker off their pages after Trump's tariff madness sent the stock market into the tank in recent weeks.

Exactly.

It's also why CNN turned off the covid-death ticker when Biden got elected. More than half of America's covid deaths occured while Biden was president, but no leftards know that.

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The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so that America's #1 news source does what it was designed to do: keep the Republicans in power.

The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so BBC, CBC, the European Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NYTimes, WashPo, Google, YouTube, Twitter, and FB all got together to keep their false narratives straight, such as the BSL4 story and the laptop story. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2019/disinformation

New collaboration steps up fight against disinformation

• Major news and tech organisations will work together to protect their audiences and users from disinformation, particularly around moments of jeopardy, including elections.

"The BBC’s partners who attended the summit are The European Broadcasting Union (EBU), Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google, The Hindu, and The Wall Street Journal. Other partners are AFP, CBC/Radio-Canada, Microsoft, Reuters, and The Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, and we are also consulting Twitter on areas of potential collaboration."

 

https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/media-centre/trusted-news-charter-fight-disinformation

CBC/Radio-Canada joins global charter to fight disinformation

• CBC/Radio-Canada believes that trusted sources of news and information for Canadians are vital to democracy (I almost f'ing died laughing when I read that). To support that goal on a global scale, CBC/Radio-Canada has joined the Trusted News Charter, a BBC-led initiative to strengthen measures to protect audiences from disinformation. The Charter is the result of the June 2019 Trusted News Summit and includes a commitment to collaborate on source authentication, civic information, media education, and other responses to disinformation. Read the BBC announcement here. Other partners just announced include Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, AFP, Reuters, Financial Times, Wall Street Journal, and the European Broadcasting Union.

 

 

*****The two announcements/articles from above are from back when TNI was formed, to interfere in the 2020 election initially.*****

 

 

https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/media-centre/trusted-news-initiative-plan-disinformation-coronavirus

Trusted News Initiative announces plans to tackle harmful coronavirus disinformation

• CBC/Radio-Canada is joining an industry collaboration of major media and technology organizations to rapidly identify and stop the spread of harmful coronavirus disinformation.

  Starting today, partners in the Trusted News Initiative will alert each other to disinformation about coronavirus, including “imposter content” purporting to come from trusted sources. Such content will be reviewed promptly to ensure that disinformation is not republished. This will complement work already underway by CBC and Radio-Canada to expose mistruths and disinformation around the global pandemic. See the CBC's COVID-Check unit's work on false claims and conspiracy theories, and Radio-Canada’s Décrypteurs for more.

  The Trusted News Initiative partners are: BBC, CBC/Radio-Canada, Facebook, Google/YouTube, Twitter, Microsoft, AFP, Reuters, Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, European Broadcasting Union (EBU), The Hindu, First Draft, and Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism.

  CBC/Radio-Canada announced its participation in the Trusted News Initiative in September 2019.

 

^^^That was the point where the recently formed Cabal News Network got together to control the false narratives surrounding covid, such as "Orinj man covid fite bad", "Trudeau fite covid good", and "BSL4 lab? What BSL4 lab, you f'ing racist!!!"

 

 

Wanna keep going, MH?

[Moonbox]

51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so BBC, CBC, the European Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NYTimes, WashPo, Google, YouTube, Twitter, and FB all got together to keep their false narratives straight, such as the BSL4 story and the laptop story. 

Yeah, exactly.  They're all in it together.  BBC, CBC, Europe's Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NY Times, Washpo, Google, Youtube, Twitter, FB, FBI, Illuminati, the Free Masons, the Mind Control Vampires from Zeta Reticuli...

They're all in it together to fool us.  

🤡🤡🤡

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The important thing is to keep the bubble intact, so that America's #1 news source does what it was designed to do: keep the Republicans in power.

The bubble is comfy.  The bubble is safe.  🫂

Edited April 21 by Moonbox

[Michael Hardner]

32 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

 

The bubble is comfy.  The bubble is safe.  

Long live the bubble 💬 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah, exactly.  They're all in it together.  BBC, CBC, Europe's Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NY Times, Washpo, Google, Youtube, Twitter, FB, FBI, Illuminati, the Free Masons, the Mind Control Vampires from Zeta Reticuli...

They're all in it together to fool us.  

🤡🤡🤡

The bubble is comfy.  The bubble is safe.  🫂

When was the lat time you saw a bunch of people get together to get their stories straight when they were going to tell the truth about something? 

When was the lat time you saw that many people, with that much theoretical brainpower, all get fooled by a little Faucian troll for 4 years? 

Fauci: "The virus came from the wetmarket. It's the only plausible origin."
TNI, in unison: "The virus came from the wetmarket. It's the only plausible origin."

Fauci: "We need a vaccine to get us to herd immunity, there's no other way."
TNI, in unison: "We need a vaccine to get us to herd immunity, there's no other way."

Fauci: "The vaccine will be safe, and they will get us to herd immunity."
TNI, in unison: "The vaccine will be safe, and they will get us to herd immunity."

Fauci: "The vaccine is be safe, and if you take it you don't have to worry about covid. You don't have to worry about giving it to granny."
TNI, in unison: "The vaccine is be safe, and if you take it you don't have to worry about covid. You don't have to worry about giving it to granny."

Etc, etc, etc, for 4 years. When Fauci back-peddled, over and over and over and over again, the MSM folowed in lock step, always 100% certain that Fauci's newest assertion was gospel truth. They NEVER f'ing learned. Neither did you. Because "The bubble is comfy.  The bubble is safe."

Well, not sooo safe. The vccine kills a few people here than there, but other than that, and a laundry-list of other side effects, it's almost useful. Which is kinda close to what Fauci promised you, hey?  

[SpankyMcFarland]

25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

When was the lat time you saw a bunch of people get together to get their stories straight when they were going to tell the truth about something? 

When was the lat time you saw that many people, with that much theoretical brainpower, all get fooled by a little Faucian troll for 4 years? 

Fauci: "The virus came from the wetmarket. It's the only plausible origin."
TNI, in unison: "The virus came from the wetmarket. It's the only plausible origin."

Fauci: "We need a vaccine to get us to herd immunity, there's no other way."
TNI, in unison: "We need a vaccine to get us to herd immunity, there's no other way."

Fauci: "The vaccine will be safe, and they will get us to herd immunity."
TNI, in unison: "The vaccine will be safe, and they will get us to herd immunity."

Fauci: "The vaccine is be safe, and if you take it you don't have to worry about covid. You don't have to worry about giving it to granny."
TNI, in unison: "The vaccine is be safe, and if you take it you don't have to worry about covid. You don't have to worry about giving it to granny."

Etc, etc, etc, for 4 years. When Fauci back-peddled, over and over and over and over again, the MSM folowed in lock step, always 100% certain that Fauci's newest assertion was gospel truth. They NEVER f'ing learned. Neither did you. Because "The bubble is comfy.  The bubble is safe."

Well, not sooo safe. The vccine kills a few people here than there, but other than that, and a laundry-list of other side effects, it's almost useful. Which is kinda close to what Fauci promised you, hey?  

The jury on the origin of the virus is still out AFAIK. Neither theory reflects well on the Chinese government.

[SpankyMcFarland]

I’m not sure what effect pro-Liberal polls would have on voting behaviour. We’ve seen right-wing victories in countries across the world where the polls got it wrong. However, I think the polling companies would really have to take a look at themselves and their methods if the Liberal winning margin in polling persists and the Tories win.  

Edited April 22 by SpankyMcFarland

[Legato]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I’m not sure what effect pro-Liberal polls would have on voting behaviour. We’ve seen right-wing victories in countries across the world where the polls got it wrong. However, I think the polling companies would really have to take a look at themselves and their methods if the Liberal winning margin in polling persists and the Tories win.  

Subliminal and blatant suggestive coercion both work .

Some friends of ours came for brunch last Saturday, the conversation got around to the election. Most of them said they won't vote Liberal because of the high cost of living. Then out of the blue this one lady said "I'm going to vote Liberal, all the polls favour Carney and the Libs so that's the way I'm going to go.

So as WestCanMan stated, Asch principle

[SpankyMcFarland]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Subliminal and blatant suggestive coercion both work .

Some friends of ours came for brunch last Saturday, the conversation got around to the election. Most of them said they won't vote Liberal because of the high cost of living. Then out of the blue this one lady said "I'm going to vote Liberal, all the polls favour Carney and the Libs so that's the way I'm going to go.

So as WestCanMan stated, Asch principle

What about people who won’t bother voting because it’s a ‘sure thing’ for the Liberals? 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Again, we’ve seen multiple wins for right-wing parties in other countries when the polls were against them. The Liberal support is wide but soft. Every Liberal on TV is telling people they must get out and vote, ie ignore the polls. 

In terms of message, I think affordability has been underemphasized by the Tories. The crime/drugs/prison stuff is not going to swing centrist voters when the entire country is being threatened by a foreign criminal and the base vote is maxed out already. Tying a healthy economy into being able to resist Trump would have been my message, eg Canada Strong. 

I see a geezer-aimed Tory golf ad on the lost decade that doesn’t feature Poilievre. They must be hearing something about his favourability. Winning arguments isn’t the same as winning people over. 

 

Edited April 22 by SpankyMcFarland

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The jury on the origin of the virus is still out AFAIK. Neither theory reflects well on the Chinese government.

The point is, it's a huge deal that all of the main broadcasters in the world united with the biggest social media outlets in the world to take control of what information we get access to. 

The truth about the BSL4 lab and the laptop was officially blocked. 

Was covid a big deal? Kinda? And we were blocked from getting the truth about it by TNI. TNI controls you, controls us, and 99% of the people in our country don't even know it exists. 

Fox News was the only major media outlet in NA that was taking about the laptop, and every single thing that Fox said about the laptop was true. Say what you want about Fox, there is not a MSM outlet in Canada that can look down their noses at them. 

People like robo might wanna think about why Fox got punished so heavily for being wrong about dominion... Was it because they want them cancelled for getting the truth out???? Our MSM told us WAY bigger lies that lasted way longer, and they slander people all the time. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

In fairness, the Tories seem to have done an excellent job maximizing their vote among people on the right. We’ll just have to wait and see it if it’s enough. 

[WestCanMan]

52 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

In fairness, the Tories seem to have done an excellent job maximizing their vote among people on the right. We’ll just have to wait and see it if it’s enough. 

No comment on TNI?

Isn't it weird that they put their narratives on BLAST 24/7 and then prevent the truth from squeezing out? 

People, like you (literally no offence intended) feel like a story on the news is 'corroborated' because all of these outlets are pushing the exact same thing hard, as if it's fact, when it's no more than a narrative, and the truth is being banned, even from social media.

Edited April 22 by WestCanMan