TPUSA Assaulted by the left

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:

So in your opinion "prove me wrong" does not debate properly. How does this relate to the topic at hand? Do you support them tearing down their setup and members of TPUSA?

In his opinion, a real debate has a moderator who picks a side 😉

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IN FACT there are rules regarding debate. If they are not followed, it's NOT DEBATE.

 

Sigh. 

debate
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B2 [ C or U ]
(a) serious discussion of a subject in which many people take part:
Education is the current focus of public debate.
for debate How we proceed from here is a matter for debate.
 

He is engaging them in a serious discussion of a subject in which many people take part

It is literally the definition of debate

DEBATE | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

[robosmith]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

In his opinion, a real debate has a moderator who picks a side 😉

Thanks for demonstrating you STILL KNOW NOTHING about real DEBATE.

Kirk and his propaganda campaign is NOT DEBATE.

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

In his opinion, a real debate has a moderator who picks a side 😉

De bate is wat  you put on de hook for de fishies. 

 -Robosmith (rather than word smith apparently) 

[CouchPotato]

41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Conservatives going to a college to incite trouble, are just asking for it.

How are they causing trouble? They just talk to people. And people are free to choose not to talk to them. They literally caused no trouble. The people in the video who knocked down their whole setup were causing trouble.

That's a really disturbing statement you just made, robosmith.

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IN FACT there are rules regarding debate. If they are not followed, it's NOT DEBATE.

Sure. But I said there are no 'laws'. So, if you determine that TPUSA does not follow the 'rules of debate' to your liking, it is irrelevant. They are not breaking any laws by not living up to your standard of quality debating.

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So now you know there are rules. Congrats.

Yes, I know, Robes. But you posted a list of general rules. It's not like anything here is legally binding. And it's not like this is even a formal setting. I mean if you are holding a formal debate, of course you have general guidelines for what constitutes good debate, but even then violating them is not a legal offense. People do it all the time in formal debates. The police don't come in and raid a debate because someone broke some 'general rules'. What happens is someone points out why an argument is not valid. And you certainly don't lash out at people and tear stuff down because you don't like the way they debate issues.

"Hey, you just used an ad hominem and ad ignorantium in the same sentence. I am going to get some thugs with masks together and knock down your kiosk and push you off campus."

If you think that is fair because you don't like the way TPUSA debates and you consider it propaganda, then it is fair to do the same to leftist activists on campus as well.

Edited April 10 by CouchPotato

[robosmith]

34 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

How are they causing trouble? They just talk to people. And people are free to choose not to talk to them. They literally caused no trouble. The people in the video who knocked down their whole setup were causing trouble.

That's a really disturbing statement you just made, robosmith.

They are there to spread PROPAGANDA. That is TROUBLE.

I am not surprised that you don't understand that, cause you are a MAGA RUBE.

34 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Sure. But I said there are no 'laws'. So, if you determine that TPUSA does not follow the 'rules of debate' to your liking, it is irrelevant. They are not breaking any laws by not living up to your standard of quality debating.

And the challengers didn't break any laws, either. Too bad, so sad.

34 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Yes, I know, Robes. But you posted a list of general rules. It's not like anything here is legally binding. And it's not like this is even a formal setting. I mean if you are holding a formal debate, of course you have general guidelines for what constitutes good debate, but even then violating them is not a legal offense. People do it all the time in formal debates. The police don't come in and raid a debate because someone broke some 'general rules'. What happens is someone points out why an argument is not valid. And you certainly don't lash out at people and tear stuff down because you don't like the way they debate issues.

It's PROPAGANDA, NOT DEBATE.

34 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

"Hey, you just used an ad hominem and ad ignorantium in the same sentence. I am going to get some thugs with masks together and knock down your kiosk and push you off campus."

If you think that is fair because you don't like the way TPUSA debates and you consider it propaganda, then it is fair to do the same to leftist activists on campus as well.

You're not going to get far on most campuses. Maybe head to Liberty U where they will buy what you're selling. 

[CouchPotato]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

They are there to spread PROPAGANDA. That is TROUBLE.

It's freedom of speech and freedom of association. The only trouble makers were the ones who lost their shizzle because they can't stand people promoting ideas they do not like.

 

Edited April 10 by CouchPotato

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

It's freedom of speech and freedom of association. The only trouble makers were the ones who lost their shizzle because they can't stand people promoting ideas they do not like.

 

And that was the plan of Kirk and his goons. They went there to cause that and got what they wanted.

[CouchPotato]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And that was the plan of Kirk and his goons. They went there to cause that and got what they wanted.

No they didn't. They have been doing it for years now. They are there to talk to students. And talking to people is not illegal and it doesn't justify what happened there. It's absolutely disgusting that you are here defending this.

So therefore, by your own standard, if a leftist group is on campus promoting their own ideas and some conservative students don't like it, they are equally justified in lashing out and destroying whatever tents and signage they have up. They are just asking for it, right?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

De bate is wat  you put on de hook for de fishies. 

 -Robosmith (rather than word smith apparently) 

He keeps saying "That's not debate" but he doesn't have an example of a good debate yet.

[gatomontes99]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

I have no problem with disrupting the SPREAD of PROPAGANDA.

And I think we've seen several threads about how the left is just fine with violence. This outright endorsement is just proof positive that they are.

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

It is FACT which you would know if you looked it up. Prove me wrong. LMAO

😂

"It's not a debate unless it follows this exact format 😭"

Ok, we won't call it a debate anymore, it's "smart people proving how stupid leftards are".

Happy?

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Of course ^these rules don't mention that the subject is known in advance and time is given to PREPARE.

People only step up to the mic because they think they know enough about the topic to engage in polite debate 😉. 

It's not the fault of TPUSA if leftists are just stupid and overconfident.

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I have no problem with disrupting the SPREAD of PROPAGANDA.

I almost died laughing. 

All you know how to do is read and regurgitate propaganda, silly Bobo.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

He keeps saying "That's not debate" but he doesn't have an example of a good debate yet.

Yeah but he wasn't actually talking to you, he was chastising the voices in his head for not making a good argument. He forgets we can't hear them. 

[User]

On 4/10/2025 at 6:04 PM, robosmith said:

And that was the plan of Kirk and his goons. They went there to cause that and got what they wanted.

You are such an awful awful awful liar. 

Kirk goes to schools all over the country without incidents like these. He shows up, he debates people, he leaves. 

 

[CouchPotato]

8 hours ago, User said:

You are such an awful awful awful liar. 

Kirk goes to schools all over the country without incidents like these. He shows up, he debates people, he leaves. 

 

I wonder what he pictures when he says Kirk and his goons. Does Charlie Kirk have a bunch of Italians in suits standing nearby?

Hey Kid. Nice backpack you got there. Real nice. Be an awful shame if someone was to pump it full o'lead.

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:31 AM by CouchPotato

[robosmith]

On 4/10/2025 at 8:11 PM, WestCanMan said:

😂

"It's not a debate unless it follows this exact format 😭"

Right. It's NOT DEBATE unless it follows the RULES OF DEBATE. LMAO

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Right. It's NOT DEBATE unless it follows the RULES OF DEBATE. LMAO

There are no rules for debate. I posted the definition, I will add this to the ever-growing long list of words that you use frequently but don't understand along with Dunning Krueger, cognitive dissonance, truth, honesty, and zucchini

[User]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Right. It's NOT DEBATE unless it follows the RULES OF DEBATE. LMAO

You are going to obstinately insist that the ONLY definition of debate is that it is a formal one?

Just another day with you being wrong about something on this forum. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debate

debate

2 of 2

verb

debated; debating

transitive verb

1

a

: to argue about

the subject was hotly debated

 

b

: to engage (an opponent) in debate

a governor debating her challenger

 

 

2

: to turn over in one's mind : to think about (something, such as different options) in order to decide

still debating what to do

 

 

intransitive verb

1

: to participate in a debate

the six primary candidates who debated last night

 

 

2

a

: to contend in words

b

: to discuss a question by considering opposed arguments

 

3

obsolete : fight, contend

[CouchPotato]

23 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Right. It's NOT DEBATE unless it follows the RULES OF DEBATE. LMAO

There really should be a new gov't agency to oversee this and enforce these rules. Then those poor college students wouldn't have to resort to knocking over TPUSA's table and tearing down their little pavilion. I mean this is what happens when you don't have a well-armed debate police force. You get debate vigilantism.

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, User said:

You are going to obstinately insist that the ONLY definition of debate is that it is a formal one?

Just another day with you being wrong about something on this forum. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debate

debate

2 of 2

verb

debated; debating

transitive verb

1

a

: to argue about

the subject was hotly debated

 

b

: to engage (an opponent) in debate

a governor debating her challenger

 

 

2

: to turn over in one's mind : to think about (something, such as different options) in order to decide

still debating what to do

 

 

intransitive verb

1

: to participate in a debate

the six primary candidates who debated last night

 

 

2

a

: to contend in words

b

: to discuss a question by considering opposed arguments

 

3

obsolete : fight, contend

Oh you provided the actual definition, I'm sure that'll clear this right up and he'll never make that mistake again ever  ...   

On an unrelated note, I've nominated you for the optimist of the year award

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

There really should be a new gov't agency to oversee this and enforce these rules. Then those poor college students wouldn't have to resort to knocking over TPUSA's table and tearing down their little pavilion. I mean this is what happens when you don't have a well-armed debate police force. You get debate vigilantism.

Department Of Discussion and General Engagement.   Dodge. 

We could get Jordan Peterson to run it as a special consultant. He could fire anyone who practices whataboutism or asks "why are we even talking about this?"

Hmmm... interesting.  CSIN just released a warning advising they'd picked up what could either be a strong earthquake or someone's head exploding violently due to cogitative dissonance, possibly involving a zucchini.   Uhhhh... could someone check on robosmith?