robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 USIP is NOT part of the Executive Branch and Trump has ONLY very limited authority over it Are USIP employees government employees? USIP is not a government agency. As a result of our staff's unique expertise and our unbiased approach to our work, USIP has either taken the lead of, or been asked to lead, projects dealing with major conflicts and issues. Careers at USIP | United States Institute of Peace United States Institute of Peace https://www.usip.org › about › careers-usip Is USIP a federal entity? The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an independent institution, established by Congress pursuant to title XVII of the Defense Authorization Act of 1985, as amended (22 U.S.C. 4601-4611). Agencies - United States Institute of Peace - Federal Register Federal Register https://www.federalregister.gov › agencies › united-states... Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Trump ILLEGALLY "fired" the Board and ILLEGALY broke into THEIR (not Federal) BUILDING. No, he did not. They were non-compliant, he fired them. The fired President refused entry to the lawfully appointed replacement, thus the fired President was lawfully removed by police. Quote
robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, User said: No, he did not. They were non-compliant, he fired them. The fired President refused entry to the lawfully appointed replacement, thus the fired President was lawfully removed by police. There's a reason you have POSTED NOTHING saying Trump has ^this authority. Nor the authority to do what he actually did which was "firing" all 11 board members which were NOT his sycophants. Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: There's a reason you have POSTED NOTHING saying Trump has ^this authority. Nor the authority to do what he actually did which was "firing" all 11 board members which were NOT his sycophants. You have yet to explain how it is illegal. Quote
robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, User said: You have yet to explain how it is illegal. IN FACT I have posted official sources that say the Institute was established as an INDEPENDENT INSTITUTION by Congress. AKA, NOT EXECUTIVE BRANCH. Quote The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an independent institution, established by Congress pursuant to title XVII of the Defense Authorization Act of 1985, as amended (22 U.S.C. 4601-4611). Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 1 minute ago, robosmith said: IN FACT I have posted official sources that say the Institute was established as an INDEPENDENT INSTITUTION by Congress. AKA, NOT EXECUTIVE BRANCH. This is not an argument as to why you think it is illegal. Who appoints the board members? The President. There is no such thing as an independent institution. Congress doesn't get to create its own executive branch anymore than the President can invent his own Judicial branch. Quote
robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 30 minutes ago, User said: This is not an argument as to why you think it is illegal. Who appoints the board members? The President. You have posted NOTHING which says the POTUS appoints the Board members of independent institutions. 30 minutes ago, User said: There is no such thing as an independent institution. In FACT there is and Congress created it BY LAW as already posted. 30 minutes ago, User said: Congress doesn't get to create its own executive branch anymore than the President can invent his own Judicial branch. It is NOT an "executive branch." Read the law. Duh Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: You have posted NOTHING which says the POTUS appoints the Board members of independent institutions. "Under the USIP Act, most of the bipartisan board of directors is appointed by the president " https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/19/politics/us-institute-of-peace-sues-after-doge-takeover 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: In FACT there is and Congress created it BY LAW as already posted. Yes, and what branch of the government executes those laws? 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: It is NOT an "executive branch." Read the law. Duh Again... what branch of government executes those laws? ROFL Quote
robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 (edited) Here are the REQUIREMENTS for Board member removal from office with which Trump has NOT COMPLIED and that makes HIS FIRING ILLEGAL. In NO PLACE does it designate the POTUS as determinate of the Board's DUTIES Quote (f) Removal from office A member of the Board appointed under subsection (b)(5) of this section may be removed by the President- (1) in consultation with the Board, for conviction of a felony, malfeasance in office, persistent neglect of duties, or inability to discharge duties; (2) upon the recommendation of eight voting members of the Board; or (3) upon the recommendation of a majority of the members of the Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Committee on Education and Labor of the House of Representatives and a majority of the members of the Committee on Foreign Relations and the Committee on Labor and Human Resources of the Senate. A recommendation made in accordance with paragraph (2) may be made only pursuant to action taken at a meeting of the Board, which may be closed pursuant to the procedures of subsection (h)(3) of this section. Only members who are present may vote. A record of the vote shall be maintained. The President shall be informed immediately by the Board of the recommendation. No where does the law give the POTUS authority for summary firing of Board members, SO GPS Edited March 19 by robosmith Quote
robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, User said: "Under the USIP Act, most of the bipartisan board of directors is appointed by the president " https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/19/politics/us-institute-of-peace-sues-after-doge-takeover IN FACT the POTUS nominates, NOT appoints. Senate confirmation is REQUIRED. 6 minutes ago, User said: Yes, and what branch of the government executes those laws? ONLY the BOARD determines an INDEPENDENT INSTITUTIONS DUTIES. 6 minutes ago, User said: Again... what branch of government executes those laws? ROFL Executive Branch has no authority over the OPERATION of an INDEPENDENT INSTITUTION. And Trump has NOT COMPLIED with the procedures for removing Board members. Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: IN FACT the POTUS nominates, NOT appoints. Senate confirmation is REQUIRED. How... why... do you insist on playing these dumb dishonest games? I just quoted it for you. The President appoints, the fact that the Senate confirms doesn't make it a nomination, and either way the point is still the same, that the President aka Executive Branch does in fact have power over this so called independent agency. 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: ONLY the BOARD determines an INDEPENDENT INSTITUTIONS DUTIES. Right... and that board that Trump appointed is doing just that. LOL 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: Executive Branch has no authority over the OPERATION of an INDEPENDENT INSTITUTION. And Trump has NOT COMPLIED with the procedures for removing Board members. The board that Trump appointed certainly does. Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 11 minutes ago, robosmith said: No where does the law give the POTUS authority for summary firing of Board members, SO GPS Read that again: persistent neglect of duties. Quote
robosmith Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 1 minute ago, User said: How... why... do you insist on playing these dumb dishonest games? I just quoted it for you. The President appoints, the fact that the Senate confirms doesn't make it a nomination, and either way the point is still the same, that the President aka Executive Branch does in fact have power over this so called independent agency. The LAW says it's nomination and Senate confirmation is required. You didn't quote the law you quoted a report from CNN. Duh 1 minute ago, User said: Right... and that board that Trump appointed is doing just that. LOL The board that Trump appointed certainly does. 8 members are REQUIRED according to the LAW 1 minute ago, User said: Read that again: persistent neglect of duties. Only the Board determines duties, and the action must occur at a meeting of the Board. I posted what the LAW says and you OBVIOLSLY have NOT READ IT. Back to IGNORE with you. Bye. Quote
User Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 1 hour ago, robosmith said: The LAW says it's nomination and Senate confirmation is required. You didn't quote the law you quoted a report from CNN. Duh Wrong again: "Twelve individuals appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate." https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title22/chapter56&edition=prelim 1 hour ago, robosmith said: 8 members are REQUIRED according to the LAW What is your point here? 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Only the Board determines duties, and the action must occur at a meeting of the Board. I posted what the LAW says and you OBVIOLSLY have NOT READ IT. Back to IGNORE with you. Bye. LOL, run away like you always do coward. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, User said: Wrong again: "Twelve individuals appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate." https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title22/chapter56&edition=prelim What is your point here? LOL, run away like you always do coward. Potential Board members are only nominated by the POTUS and NOT appointed UNTIL confirmed by the Senate. Which is what your cite says cause it refers to post Senate consent. Duh My point is that you haven't read the LAW I posted about how the POTUS MUST remove a Board member and the FACT that Trump didn't follow THE LAW. AKA, ILLEGAL. Can't you read? Edited March 20 by robosmith Quote
CdnFox Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Potential Board members are only nominated by the POTUS and NOT appointed UNTIL confirmed by the Senate. Which is what your cite says cause it refers to post Senate consent. Duh My point is that you haven't read the LAW I posted about how the POTUS MUST remove a Board member and the FACT that Trump didn't follow THE LAW. AKA, ILLEGAL. Can't you read? You say the same crap every time and you're always wrong. You said the same thing and "PROOOVED" The trump wasn't allowed on the ballot and that was wrong. You said about a dozen things where you're absolutely sure of the law and you're wrong as soon as the courts rule on it If he's done something illegal then the courts will settle it but it does not look like that is going to happen just yet Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 38 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You say the same crap every time and you're always wrong. You said the same thing and "PROOOVED" The trump wasn't allowed on the ballot and that was wrong. You said about a dozen things where you're absolutely sure of the law and you're wrong as soon as the courts rule on it If he's done something illegal then the courts will settle it but it does not look like that is going to happen just yet Read the LAW jack ass. The courts are slow, but relentless. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Read the LAW jack ass. The courts are slow, but relentless. That's what you said last time and the courts proved you wrong. In fact I don't know that I've ever seen you be right when you said that the courts would rule a certain way or another You didn't even know what a subpoena was Until I explained it to you. So the one thing we can say with certainty is your interpretation is useless. We'll see if a judge rules on it Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Potential Board members are only nominated by the POTUS and NOT appointed UNTIL confirmed by the Senate. Which is what your cite says cause it refers to post Senate consent. Duh My point is that you haven't read the LAW I posted about how the POTUS MUST remove a Board member and the FACT that Trump didn't follow THE LAW. AKA, ILLEGAL. Can't you read? So much for the idle threat of ignore... Libbies... 2 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Potential Board members are only nominated by the POTUS and NOT appointed UNTIL confirmed by the Senate. I even quoted the law... you still can't admit you are wrong: "Twelve individuals appointed by the President" 9 hours ago, robosmith said: My point is that you haven't read the LAW I posted about how the POTUS MUST remove a Board member and the FACT that Trump didn't follow THE LAW. AKA, ILLEGAL. Can't you read? You continue to insist that the term was nominate, falsely claimed I had not read the law and that is what it said, and I have twice now shown you otherwise. You clearly have not read the law. I already quoted to you the section where the President can remove someone as well. Quote
robosmith Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: So much for the idle threat of ignore... Libbies... Sometimes I have more time to WASTE on you right wing IMBECILES. Quote
Legato Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: Sometimes I have more time to WASTE on you right wing IMBECILES. Imbecile's, a new mode of transport. is there a sports version made with a supercharged V8 or is that a new name for the cretins destroying Tesla's? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: Sometimes I have more time to WASTE on you right wing IMBECILES. Oh you mean once in a while you manage to chew through the straps, escape and get to a computer..... 5 minutes ago, Legato said: Imbecile's, a new mode of transport. is there a sports version made with a supercharged V8 or is that a new name for the cretins destroying Tesla's? For the environmentally concious they're also coming out with the Imbecycle as i understand it. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Oh you mean once in a while you manage to chew through the straps, escape and get to a computer..... For the environmentally concious they're also coming out with the Imbecycle as i understand it. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 Just now, Legato said: 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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