ExFlyer Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 12 hours ago, eyeball said: The primary objective of an excise tax is to raise revenue for the government while supporting public policy objectives such as reducing smoking or promoting environmentally friendly products. Which is just as woke as the carbon tax. Except people don't get a tax credit or rebate for quitting smoking. That would be really woke. Again...the excise tax has been in effect since 1987. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
eyeball Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 13 hours ago, Army Guy said: .Liberals made the choice, not to do anything productive where is all your anger for them...wait... As I've told you before I stopped voting for Liberals decades ago over fisheries issues. I'm still not voting for them if that helps. 13 hours ago, Army Guy said: Well achieving 8 % of our goal is not the most effective way...everyone gets that except you... What I don't get is the expectation Liberals would cure climate change in 10 years. If PP is promising to have it fixed in 5 or something I suspect you'll be in for a big disappointment. I honestly think you'd be much happier with a more realistic climate-change-is-bullshit campaign myself. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Again...the excise tax has been in effect since 1987. I guess we've been woke a lot longer than people like to admit. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: I guess we've been woke a lot longer than people like to admit. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Army Guy Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 4 hours ago, eyeball said: As I've told you before I stopped voting for Liberals decades ago over fisheries issues. I'm still not voting for them if that helps. What I don't get is the expectation Liberals would cure climate change in 10 years. If PP is promising to have it fixed in 5 or something I suspect you'll be in for a big disappointment. I honestly think you'd be much happier with a more realistic climate-change-is-bullshit campaign myself. Not sure why you don't vote for them , you spend most of your time defending them right here.... Liberals managed to attain 8 % of their target goal...not even close to curing anything except wasting everyone's time and money...As for PP he has not made any such claims...your making this up as you fly... Well the way we as a nation have been treating climate change ya, it is bullshit all of it...the liberals have half ass everything about climate change, and the ex climate change minister should be shot with a ball of Justins sh1T more than once...it was nothing more than a scam.....how you can't see that is telling... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Not sure why you don't vote for them , you spend most of your time defending them right here.... Except for the time I spend saying Trudeau should be in jail you mean? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 43 minutes ago, eyeball said: Except for the time I spend saying Trudeau should be in jail you mean? We just never, in fact what you said is that harper is to blame for Trudeau's actions because he didn't magically pass a law that Trudeau couldn't undo. Then you have a screening rage when I point out that harper's laws did catch Trudeau. You cannot spend 99.5% of your time arguing in favor of Trudeau and his policies and his track record as you do and then try and claim that somehow you don't support him Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 38 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You cannot spend 99.5% of your time arguing in favor of Trudeau and his policies and his track record as you do and then try and claim that somehow you don't support him I was lying. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 2 hours ago, eyeball said: I was lying. I wasn't. Also you were wrong and I was right. You're kind of dumb and I'm kind of smart Your buthurt and cranky because you lost, I'm mildly amused that I won. So basically it's just another day on the forum for both of us Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 16 hours ago, Army Guy said: Not sure why you don't vote for them , you spend most of your time defending them right here.... .... Not sure many are defending the liberals but are merely playing devils advocate to the PP worshippers LOL And it is causing all sorts of political tantrums Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Not sure many are defending the liberals but are merely playing devils advocate to the PP worshippers LOL It's definitely defending them, you're not playing devil's advocate to anything. And it doesn't cause any political tantrums, it just causes people to point and laugh when you claim that you're not defending them 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It's definitely defending them, you're not playing devil's advocate to anything. And it doesn't cause any political tantrums, it just causes people to point and laugh when you claim that you're not defending them No, when stating facts, making corrections and disputing falsehoods, I do that regardless of party or affiliations. Making opposite statements does not in any way mean anyone is riding the train. It only means there are other or conflicting reasons. I am neither liberal/conservative/NDP. I am I am observer first and selective second. I choose my MP that best fits my take on things at the time and my take changes with the times. You and I have argued about this before and I will always offer a different side if warranted. I do not jump on a bandwagon and am not a groupie. Edited March 17 by ExFlyer Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: No, when stating facts, making corrections and disputing falsehoods, I do that regardless of party or affiliations. That's not my experience. You select facts when dealing with the liberals which are either erroneous or at best one-sided or incomplete and while taking an opposing view may not be if so facto and endorsement of that view it's a pretty good indication and if it happens again and again and again that trend expresses approval generally speaking The thing about an observer who is utterly neutral is they will tend to find a roughly similar number of issues with both the left and the right. But your commentary extremely heavily favors one side and as often emotionally based rather than fact based. Perhaps what you meant to say is that you are striving to be a neutral Observer but you haven't quite managed it yet. Keep working, you have a little ways to go. In the meantime it seems fairly obvious that you have a strong preference for the left. Perhaps you Aren't even aware of it, but if you go back and review your comments and watch yourself moving forward I think you'll spot the same trend Edited March 17 by CdnFox Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's not my experience. ... Yeah OK. I ain't gettin into it with you again. It is a waste of my valuable time. You are entitled to your opinions, as wrong as they so often are...not always but... Edited March 17 by ExFlyer Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah OK. I ain't gettin into it with you again. It is a waste of my valuable time. You are entitled to your opinions, as wrong as they so often are...not always but... Well I'll let it go then. But the fact that this isn't just my opinion but it's been held by other people and expressed by other people should give you pause to take a look at your own behavior and see if it matches what you're self-perception is. I mean nobody's does when you get down to it, but sensible people are always trying to look at how to bring their self-image in line with their actual actions as much as possible to make themselves The kind of person they want to be. So take that for what it is, Do with it what you will. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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