impartialobserver Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: Dude, your entire hopes rest on unemployment figures - as if that's all Americans ever think about. lol I'm telling you now, if Americans feel generally content about what Trump is doing, they aren't going to give a shit about your precious little unemployment spikes, if there are even spikes at all. You're not going to convince me otherwise, so the only thing to do now is wait and see. You are fighting against human nature. They will care much the same as they have cared for decades. They will not stop paying attention because you say so. I do not care either way... believe it or not. I am just explaining the math equation that is economic metrics. If it goes up or not.. nothing changes on my end. anyways, the answer is 1.9%. Also, for 46 of 50 states, the rate is less than 1%. Lowest of them is SD at .03% Edited March 13 by impartialobserver Quote
Deluge Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: You are fighting against human nature. They will care much the same as they have cared for decades. They will not stop paying attention because you say so. I do not care either way... believe it or not. I am just explaining the math equation that is economic metrics. If it goes up or not.. nothing changes on my end. anyways, the answer is 1.9%. Also, for 46 of 50 states, the rate is less than 1%. Lowest of them is SD at .03% You have overblown human nature - Americans will not give a shit if they are generally doing better than when the hair sniffer was in charge. Quote
impartialobserver Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Deluge said: You have overblown human nature - Americans will not give a shit if they are generally doing better than when the hair sniffer was in charge. They measure this "doing better" by economic metrics. When you want to know is the economy doing better.. you use metrics such as unemployment rate, CES jobs. QCEW jobs, GDP. This is reality. This needs not your approval. Quote
Deluge Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: They measure this "doing better" by economic metrics. When you want to know is the economy doing better.. you use metrics such as unemployment rate, CES jobs. QCEW jobs, GDP. This is reality. This needs not your approval. The unemployed will care, and that's pretty much it. The rest of us will be enjoying lower prices, hopefully lower taxes, and increased opportunities to make our lives better. Quote
impartialobserver Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: The unemployed will care, and that's pretty much it. The rest of us will be enjoying lower prices, hopefully lower taxes, and increased opportunities to make our lives better. Your bias shows here. You would be amazed at how many care about those metrics. They do not all measure the economy by feel like yourself. I can guarantee that if the metrics are in your favor.. you will use them to back up your argument. Quote
Deluge Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 1 minute ago, impartialobserver said: Your bias shows here. You would be amazed at how many care about those metrics. They do not all measure the economy by feel like yourself. I can guarantee that if the metrics are in your favor.. you will use them to back up your argument. Well, we know left-wing activists care because they base the entire economy on that metric - it helps drive their bullshit agenda. The rest of us, of course, really don't give a shit. Quote
impartialobserver Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Deluge said: Well, we know left-wing activists care because they base the entire economy on that metric - it helps drive their bullshit agenda. The rest of us, of course, really don't give a shit. You would be amazed at how many conservatives care about the unemployment rate... regardless of who is in office or how it is doing. Besides, it is not the only metric. I gave others and you breeze over them. My guess is that you do not like to do analysis. Quote
Deluge Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 Just now, impartialobserver said: You would be amazed at how many conservatives care about the unemployment rate... regardless of who is in office or how it is doing. Besides, it is not the only metric. I gave others and you breeze over them. My guess is that you do not like to do analysis. The only reason a conservative would be caught up in that thinking is because leftoids squawk about it 24/7. You and the media won't shut the f*ck up about it. Look, we all care about unemployment, it's just that you people care a lot more about it. Hell, you've been trying to turn it into the elephant in the room, and that's just not the case. Quote
impartialobserver Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Deluge said: Look, we all care about unemployment, But you said that you did not give a shit? So what is it? Honestly the media is not talking about the unemployment rate yet. Why... because it takes times for claims to filter into the data. I know.. too much detail and minutiae for you. When someone files a claim on Jan. 1.. you do not see it in the unemployment rate until March at the earliest. It is not an exact count.. sorry too much detail for you. I am just giving you a heads up of what is coming. Will it be short lived? Probably. Will it get folks talking for those 3 to 4 months? Yes. The stock market will drop a bit, jobs numbers will be down, and yet life will be fine for most. And then in autumn 2025, the uptick will happen and folks will find something new to whine about. Never underestimate the modern human's true love for bit__ing and whining. Edited March 13 by impartialobserver Quote
Deluge Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, impartialobserver said: But you said that you did not give a shit? Easy, comrade. That's your TDS talking. You know damn well that when I say I don't give a shit, it means I don't give a shit about your obsession with unemployment rates. You woketards take that shit to a whole a different level, and we both know you are using that to help push the left-wing agenda. Don't be dishonest. Quote
impartialobserver Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, Deluge said: Easy, comrade. That's your TDS talking. You know damn well that when I say I don't give a shit, it means I don't give a shit about your obsession with unemployment rates. You woketards take that shit to a whole a different level, and we both know you are using that to help push the left-wing agenda. Don't be dishonest. Did you write this. If not.. I wonder who it was. "The rest of us, of course, really don't give a shit." Quote
Deluge Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Did you write this. If not.. I wonder who it was. "The rest of us, of course, really don't give a shit." In context. Remember, I qualified that with saying that we all care, just not nearly as much as you do. Don't be a f*cking liar. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) 5 hours ago, impartialobserver said: That is my point. Now are these slight downturns going to be permanent? No. They are not systemic or based on lower demand. Will the unemployment rate, CES Jobs, QCEW jobs, etc recover? Most likely. however, the modern American does not look beyond the moment. They read on April 21, 2025 that the unemployment rate is up and immediately they think the following, "This is the start of something worse". Also, they blame the President only. Now, when it goes back up in July 2025.. they conveniently forget their paranoia on April 21, 2025. It's not just Yankee's freakin'. Canadians...some anyway...figure we're at war with the States. It's thinking like that, that causes escalated tensions. Think of it this way... There are 40 million Canucks. We do have a cultural identity...a "psychy" if you will. Abrupt moves in the trade with the US plus their quest for peace, has an affect on the Canuck "psychy". There are around 400 million Yankees. That affect is wildly more pronounced down there. It's pretty obvious they are freaking right fcking out. But ya...things will settle and hopefully inflation will stop and do an about face. Edited March 13 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 29 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It's not just Yankee's freakin'. Canadians...some anyway...figure we're at war with the States. It's thinking like that, that causes escalated tensions. We are at war with the states. And they should never ever be forgiven for this backstab. For the rest of time we need to find ways to severtise with them as much as possible and not do business with them militarily, economically, or even to allow them in our homes. Quote Think of it this way... There are 40 million Canucks. We do have a cultural identity...a "psychy" if you will. Abrupt moves in the trade with the US plus their quest for peace, has an affect on the Canuck "psychy". There are around 400 million Yankees. That affect is wildly more pronounced down there. It's pretty obvious they are freaking right fcking out. But ya...things will settle and hopefully inflation will stop and do an about face. Inflation really isn't my concern right now. My concern would be more with stagflation and also recession. Within a few months if things don't change canada and America will definitely be in a recession And that could go on for quite a while. On top of that we could see what is not a stagflation where real incomes stop or even drop so that even a mild inflation rate winds up having a huge impact on the consumer equality of life. GDP per capita is already dropping like a stone in Canada thanks to the liberals. We could see wages flat line while inflation continues at 2 to 3%. At first glance the inflation doesn't look bad but in light of the loss of jobs and the lowering of income her household it winds up being that people just have less money This is going to hurt us more than them but he may very well find himself going into the midterms with some very unhappy voters if things don't turn around in the next few months Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Radiorum Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 On 3/5/2025 at 5:09 PM, Deluge said: The US is Christian. Christianity is, and always has been, the glue that keeps this country together. That's not how the founding fathers saw it. Thomas Jefferson, in his letter to the Danbury Baptists reiterates that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.. Separation of Church & State History The US Constitution derives its power "from the people" - not from God. God is never mentioned in it. I'll add to that the many Magat "Christians" are doing nothing but pissing on Christ. 1 Quote
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 7 hours ago, Radiorum said: That's not how the founding fathers saw it. You quoted "a" founding father and even then, this is about the government respecting peoples right to religion, not that Christianity was not a fundamental part of the principles of our Nations founding or the obvious that the US is in fact a Christian nation. Quote
Deluge Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 (edited) 7 hours ago, Radiorum said: That's not how the founding fathers saw it. Thomas Jefferson, in his letter to the Danbury Baptists reiterates that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.. Separation of Church & State History The US Constitution derives its power "from the people" - not from God. God is never mentioned in it. I'll add to that the many Magat "Christians" are doing nothing but pissing on Christ. Separation OF Church and State, not separation FROM Church. This means the country is Christian, but the church shouldn't be running it. Edited March 14 by Deluge 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 6 hours ago, Deluge said: Separation OF Church and State, not separation FROM Church. This means the country is Christian, but the church shouldn't be running it. He does follow somewhat logically that you can't have a separation of two things unless both things exist in the first place. You can have a church, and you can have a state, and you can recognize that their authority is separated without necessarily abolishing interaction or influence. Two things can be separated and still have a significant impact on each other, ask robosmith's ex-wife 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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