robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: So do the leftists, but you ignore that. We ignore what suits us. Nothing was better at increasing the membership numbers of the MAGA CULT than the Democrat party itself. I could never imagine you chit chatting and joking with "literally Hitler". Where did Obama say Trump is "literally Hitler"? Duh Of course, Obama is too polite to make a scene at a FUNERAL. I have ONLY said Trump is a "Hitler wanna be" because he is still early along the path that Hitler followed. Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Where did Obama say Trump is "literally Hitler"? Duh Does he have to? I mean Trump is "literally Hitler" right? Not only that he is the greatest threat to democracy the world has ever seen, and he fomented the most deadly insurrection in world history. Quote
Legato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 31 minutes ago, robosmith said: You forgot Pearl Harbor. You forgot nuclear physics Quote
robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Does he have to? I mean Trump is "literally Hitler" right? You're just proving me right by saying ^this with no evidence. You're criticizing Obama with a STRAWMAN "argument." 3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Not only that he is the greatest threat to democracy the world has ever seen, and he fomented the most deadly insurrection in world history. Your hyperbole just makes you look ridiculous. Trump is the greatest internal threat to democracy the US has ever seen. And no one else has incited an insurrection here. Certainly Hitler was a greater threat to democracy than Trump because he SUCCEEDED in destroying German democracy. Duh 3 minutes ago, Legato said: You forgot nuclear physics You forgot you said ^this before. Dementia in action. Quote
Deluge Posted March 5 Author Report Posted March 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: America is NOT and NEVER was "a Christian nation," DLUGINAL lDIOT. Most of the founders were Deists NOT Christians. That is why the Constitution has several sectarian PROHIBITIONS. Duh Of course, the economic SUCCESS of America comes from science and reason while anachronistic religion is just a "feel good" DRAG ON PROGRESS. Sorry, pervert, but there's no such thing as progress in your f*cked up little fantasy world - it's why you wokejobs lost in November. The US is Christian. Christianity is, and always has been, the glue that keeps this country together. MAGA supports America, you filth support Ukraine. For MAGA, it's America first. For you scumbags, it's ANYWHERE but America. The Constitution is God inspired, not America hating scumbag inspired. Christian inspiration is what floats the economy. Woke bullshit sinks it. I have science and reason. YOU have DEI, and pride month. Get it? Edited March 5 by Deluge Quote
CdnFox Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Yeah, I prefer rationality over superstition any day. How many deaths have been religiously motivated? Hundreds of millions. Here’s the death tolls: · The Crusades: 6,000,000 · Thirty Years War: 11,500,000 · French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000 · Execution of people (mostly women) condemned as witches: between 200,00 and 500,000 · Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000 · Lebanese Civil War: 250,000 · Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000 · Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000 · Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000 · Rwandan Genocide: 800,000 · Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000 · Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000 · Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000 · First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000 · Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000 · The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000 · Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000 · Iraq War: 500,000 · US Western Expansion (Justified by "Manifest Destiny"):20,000,000 · Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000 · Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000 · AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000 · Spanish Inquisition: 5,000 How many lives has science saved? Literally billions! Hundreds of millions of people by vaccines, and then more by antibiotics, antimalarial drugs, blood transfusions, synthetic fertilizers, improved sanitation (e.g. toilets, water chlorination, pasteurization), cancer treatments, diabetes treatments, stroke treatments… and even by satellites that forecast natural disasters! How many have been killed by leftist "rationality'? 10 million in russa under stalin , that manifest destiny wasn't religious so we'll take that back, 20 million the slave trade was economic (sorry ) and supported by democrats and opposed by the republicans so 14 million there Aids deaths in africa had nothing to do with religion, they just dont' like condums 30 million there The holocaust wasn't religious, it was based on political ideology about the jews not differences in religion, so 6,500,000 there (and i think it's supposed to be more like 11 million) the muslim conquests of india weren't political so 80,000.000 there 3.5 million in the 100 years war 85 million in ww2 22 million in ww1. Wow. Suddenly religion starts to look pretty darn good Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 26 minutes ago, robosmith said: You're just proving me right by saying ^this with no evidence. You're criticizing Obama with a STRAWMAN "argument." Your hyperbole just makes you look ridiculous. Trump is the greatest internal threat to democracy the US has ever seen. And no one else has incited an insurrection here. Certainly Hitler was a greater threat to democracy than Trump because he SUCCEEDED in destroying German democracy. Duh You forgot you said ^this before. Dementia in action. I did not say "this before". Please read carefully. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Suddenly religion starts to look pretty darn good Unless you are burned at the stake for being a heretic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics Quote
robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, Legato said: I did not say "this before". Please read carefully. I didn't quote "this before," but you did say this quote TWICE TROLL: 1 hour ago, Legato said: You forgot nuclear physics 39 minutes ago, Legato said: You forgot nuclear physics Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Radiorum said: Unless you are burned at the stake for being a heretic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics But see, that is basically what CdnFox was pointing out when he talked about how many people leftism killed. They were heretics as well. Heresy is more dangerous than actual thugs and violent criminals to a corrupt system. That's why you can slap dealers of hard drugs on the wrist, but thought crime can get you cancelled. Quote
Deluge Posted March 5 Author Report Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Yeah, I prefer rationality over superstition any day. How many deaths have been religiously motivated? Hundreds of millions. Here’s the death tolls: · The Crusades: 6,000,000 · Thirty Years War: 11,500,000 · French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000 · Execution of people (mostly women) condemned as witches: between 200,00 and 500,000 · Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000 · Lebanese Civil War: 250,000 · Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000 · Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000 · Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000 · Rwandan Genocide: 800,000 · Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000 · Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000 · Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000 · First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000 · Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000 · The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000 · Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000 · Iraq War: 500,000 · US Western Expansion (Justified by "Manifest Destiny"):20,000,000 · Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000 · Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000 · AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000 · Spanish Inquisition: 5,000 How many lives has science saved? Literally billions! Hundreds of millions of people by vaccines, and then more by antibiotics, antimalarial drugs, blood transfusions, synthetic fertilizers, improved sanitation (e.g. toilets, water chlorination, pasteurization), cancer treatments, diabetes treatments, stroke treatments… and even by satellites that forecast natural disasters! How many times have selfish b*tches slaughtered their unborn? Countless. You have no science; you have no reason. You just have political activism - that's it. 8 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Unless you are burned at the stake for being a heretic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics When was the last witch burning or heretic burning in this country? Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your hyperbole just makes you look ridiculous. Trump is the greatest internal threat to democracy the US has ever seen. And no one else has incited an insurrection here. Certainly Hitler was a greater threat to democracy than Trump because he SUCCEEDED in destroying German democracy. Yes, I am using hyperbole, but you do realize people use this in every day speech. I am not literally accusing you or anyone else of saying that. Anyways, since you admit that the left views Trump as the greatest internal threat to democracy and as someone who incited an actual insurrection, don't you think it's odd that these same leaders who promote this view can so easily laugh and joke in his company? Quote
Radiorum Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, Deluge said: How many times have selfish b*tches slaughtered their unborn? Countless. You have no science; you have no reason. You just have political activism - that's it. You probably don't even see the way you are contradicting yourself. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Deluge said: The Left really isn't about anything other than the destruction of the West, which is why real citizens will eventually have no choice but to forcibly protect the country. Who decides who "real citizens" are? And how are they going to "forcibly protect the country"? Concentration camps, gas chambers? And the first part of your sentence is is a new depth of stupid! Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 hour ago, robosmith said: I have ONLY said Trump is a "Hitler wanna be" because he is still early along the path that Hitler followed. Let's assume this is true, robosmith. Trump is the next Hitler. I am sure you remember this. Democrats represented this as if Trump was promising there would be a bloodbath if he is not elected. Was that misleading? I mean even if he is Hitler and wants to have all kinds of bloodbaths was that what he was talking about here? Quote
robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Yes, I am using hyperbole, but you do realize people use this in every day speech. I am not literally accusing you or anyone else of saying that. Anyways, since you admit that the left views Trump as the greatest internal threat to democracy Who ever tried to overturn an election for POTUS here before Trump? It's not JUST "the left." Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy both condemned Trump for what he did on Jan 6th. 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: and as someone who incited an actual insurrection, don't you think it's odd that these same leaders who promote this view can so easily laugh and joke in his company? I think it's far MORE odd that RepubliCONS voted for the guy AGAIN. Except I understand that they're delusional and believe EVERYTHING that Trump says despite his LONG HISTORY of Pathological LIES. Polite conversation means next to nothing compared to voting for him. Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Who decides who "real citizens" are? Well, usually laws of the country do, and if you don't have any definition whatsoever then who isn't a citizen?? And what is a country? Maybe you and I are actually Americans. Maybe we are the 51st state. Who decides? Edited March 5 by CouchPotato Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Polite conversation means next to nothing compared to voting for him. It's just strange that they are so polite and able to laugh with such a dangerous maniac. Would you do that, robo? I think you'd be more committed to the cause myself. Quote
robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, CouchPotato said: Let's assume this is true, robosmith. Trump is the next Hitler. Not what I said. Following a path doesn't mean reaching the same end. Paths can change course any time. 1 minute ago, CouchPotato said: I am sure you remember this. Democrats represented this as if Trump was promising there would be a bloodbath if he is not elected. Was that misleading? I mean even if he is Hitler and wants to have all kinds of bloodbaths was that what he was talking about here? It is quite common for politicians to mislead the voters about what another politician said and is generally blamed on the unartful expression of the guy who said it. Al Gore was roundly skewered for saying he "invented the Internet," when what he really said was "building the Internet while in Congress." Trump used an unartful term and opposing pols skewered him for using dishonest and provocative language. Quote
robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: It's just strange that they are so polite and able to laugh with such a dangerous maniac. Would you do that, robo? I think you'd be more committed to the cause myself. I'm not a skilled politician and have no patience for BULLSHIT. Duh Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 (edited) 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: Trump used an unartful term and opposing pols skewered him for using dishonest and provocative language. No doubt, politicians on both sides do this. For instance, I think it was done a lot with Obama. I was not an Obama fan, but I could see that there were certain statements he made that were used unfairly against him. But he became a two term president. Now, I wouldn't even say Trump was unartful here. I mean "bloodbath" is commonly used as blanket term for anything disastrous, and most people understand that. Now, I would say that Democrats tried to do this a lot with Trump. But I am not sure they skewered him. I mean what do you think, robosmith? Do you think maybe the Democrats could have possibly overdone this kind of thing? Is it possible they skewered themselves? Quote Not what I said. Following a path doesn't mean reaching the same end. Paths can change course any time. OK, fair enough. It's not my intention to misrepresent your opinion here, I am just saying, let's say for the sake of argument Trump is a really really bad and dangerous orange man. Do you think that maybe there was some folly in continually using arguments that were easy to discredit in order to prove that? Edited March 5 by CouchPotato Quote
User Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: That's got nothing to do with science Neither did the garbage you posted. Quote
robosmith Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 29 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: No doubt, politicians on both sides do this. For instance, I think it was done a lot with Obama. I was not an Obama fan, but I could see that there were certain statements he made that were used unfairly against him. But he became a two term president. Now, I wouldn't even say Trump was unartful here. I mean "bloodbath" is commonly used as blanket term for anything disastrous, and most people understand that. Now, I would say that Democrats tried to do this a lot with Trump. But I am not sure they skewered him. I mean what do you think, robosmith? Do you think maybe the Democrats could have possibly overdone this kind of thing? Is it possible they skewered themselves? Nope. Bloodbath is a lot more than disastrous. it means many deaths. Very dishonest language from Trump. 29 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: OK, fair enough. It's not my intention to misrepresent your opinion here, I am just saying, let's say for the sake of argument Trump is a really really bad and dangerous orange man. Do you think that maybe there was some folly in continually using arguments that were easy to discredit in order to prove that? IF Trump continues down Hitler's path, many deaths are a likely result. And I believe he is mean enough to do that. He obviously doesn't care about anyone but himself. Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: Nope. Bloodbath is a lot more than disastrous. it means many deaths. Very dishonest language from Trump. Yes, in the literal sense, but it is also commonly used as an expression to mean disastrous. He was talking about the auto industry not the streets of America right? So, most people could figure out that he wasn't talking about a literal bloodbath. So when Democrats made the extreme claim that he was calling for an actual bloodbath they only discredited themselves. Quote IF Trump continues down Hitler's path, many deaths are a likely result. And I believe he is mean enough to do that. He obviously doesn't care about anyone but himself. If this is the truth, I would say the Democrats did a poor job of opposing him. Even if you believe incredibly nefarious things about someone and you think you are right, there is a danger in making grave accusations against them. There is a danger in prosecuting someone of a heinous crime when you can't present enough evidence to get a conviction. Quote
Deluge Posted March 6 Author Report Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: You probably don't even see the way you are contradicting yourself. There's no activism in saving lives, comrade. I'm right, and you're wrong. It's that simple. Quote
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