carepov Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 23 hours ago, eyeball said: It was also stolen. And yet it was Palestinians who had land stolen from them. Some still have the original deeds to their property. Arab land was lost because Arabs started a war and lost. 23 hours ago, eyeball said: Don't know and don't care because they're not responsible for what Zionist terrorists or Israeli paramilitaries did. This attitude is consistent with the typical anti-Israeli crowd: -When Egypt and Jordan "steal land", I don't care -When Jordan kills and exiles Palestinians, I don't care -When Lebanon openly discriminates against Palestinians, I don't care -When Palestinians kill other Palestinians, I don't care -When Jews are ethnically cleansed, I don't care But when Jews are attacked, then defend their country against those that want to kill all Jews, that they want to share peacefully with all residents, then you care. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 2 hours ago, carepov said: Arab land was lost because Arabs started a war and lost. Zionist terror groups started stealing land long before that - Arabs declared war following the massacre of Palestinians at Deir Yassin. Palestinian lands are still being stolen to this day. And now Israeli settlers are eyeing up Gaza. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: Zionist terror groups started stealing land long before that - Arabs declared war following the massacre of Palestinians at Deir Yassin. Palestinian lands are still being stolen to this day. And now Israeli settlers are eyeing up Gaza. This is a beyond dishonest framing of the timeline. Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 12 minutes ago, User said: This is a beyond dishonest framing of the timeline. You're saying Arabs declared war before Jewish terrorists massacred the Palestinians living at Deir Yassin? Cite? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
carepov Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Zionist terror groups started stealing land long before that - Arabs declared war following the massacre of Palestinians at Deir Yassin. Arabs started a war to eradicate the Jews in 1947. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947–1948_civil_war_in_Mandatory_Palestine Edited March 14 by carepov Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, carepov said: Arabs started a war to eradicate the Jews in 1947. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947–1948_civil_war_in_Mandatory_Palestine No, this was a civil war that Palestinians had to fight after England abandoned their responsibilities to protect them - from having their land stolen amongst other things by Jewish terrorists. Deir Yassin happened in April of 48 despite a non-aggression pact the people living there made. Arabs nations declared war against Israel in May following the declaration of Israel's creation and independence. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 Jewish terrorists were killing Palestinians long before there were any Palestinian terrorists. But now I suppose some wag will point out the Arabs actually declared war anywhere from 2000 to 4000 years ago. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 To hear you guys put it, Palestinians should never ever be forgiven for defending themselves. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
carepov Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 2 hours ago, eyeball said: To hear you guys put it, Palestinians should never ever be forgiven for defending themselves. You have your history ass backwards. Here's the proof: 1. There is one Jewish country in the world, and in that country there are 20% Arabs, living peacefully with full rights. How many Jews live amongst the 22 Arab countries? Conclusion: the Jews are upholding their charter. 2. If at any point in the last 80 years the Arabs had the power to wipe out the Jews, they would have. The Jews have had this power for decades yet they have tried to live in peace. Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, carepov said: There is one Jewish country in the world, ...built on land stolen from the people who lived there. Stolen violently and often murderously at gunpoint by terrorists who eventually became the IDF. The IDF maintains a classified archive that documents what they did at Deir Yassin to the people there. The attack caused hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to flee in terror as refugees and that's when surrounding Arab nations declared war on Israel. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 4 hours ago, User said: This is a beyond dishonest framing of the timeline. 1 hour ago, carepov said: There is one Jewish country in the world, I think eyeball is a hardened anti-Semite. He has been on this crusade against the Jews for some time on here. I doubt you can find any agreement with him. He doesn't accept that Islam is an historic opponent of the Jews and the west. Anti-Semitism is at least 1500 to 1800 years old in the world. Not sure where he is coming from. 1 Quote
carepov Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 44 minutes ago, eyeball said: ...built on land stolen from the people who lived there. Stolen violently and often murderously at gunpoint by terrorists who eventually became the IDF. The IDF maintains a classified archive that documents what they did at Deir Yassin to the people there. The attack caused hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to flee in terror as refugees and that's when surrounding Arab nations declared war on Israel. So you are saying that the Jews living in Palestine had nothing to worry about? Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 29 minutes ago, carepov said: So you are saying that the Jews living in Palestine had nothing to worry about? Not at all, Zionist terrorists shot them too for resisting. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, blackbird said: I think eyeball is a hardened anti-Semite. And I think you're a fùcking arsehole. What would Jesus have done at Deir Yassin? Probably the same thing he would have done on Oct 6 in the Gaza Envelope I bet. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 20 hours ago, eyeball said: You're saying Arabs declared war before Jewish terrorists massacred the Palestinians living at Deir Yassin? Cite? No, I am saying exactly what I did, that your framing of the timeline is woefully dishonest. Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, User said: No, I am saying exactly what I did, that your framing of the timeline is woefully dishonest. I'm not framing the timeline. I'm simply laying it out accurately to counter the bullshit you people very selectively project onto history - that Palestinians started the conflict between them and Israel for example. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm not framing the timeline. I'm simply laying it out accurately to counter the bullshit you people very selectively project onto history - that Palestinians started the conflict between them and Israel for example. Yes, you are dishonestly framing the timeline. The incident you cited was not the first act of violence nor did the war immediately follow. You are just pushing a fundamentally dishonest timeline. Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, User said: The incident you cited was not the first act of violence nor did the war immediately follow. You think Palestinians greeted Zionists gratefully and plunked daisies in the gun barrels being pointed at them. 8 minutes ago, User said: You are just pushing a fundamentally dishonest timeline. You mean the events in the timeline didn't happen or the dates are wrong? Prove it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: You think Palestinians greeted Zionists gratefully and plunked daisies in the gun barrels being pointed at them. No, I think you continually post lies, say dishonest things, and other half truths to support and defend Palestinian terrorism and the destruction of Israel. 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: You mean the events in the timeline didn't happen or the dates are wrong? Prove it. I already did. Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 25 minutes ago, User said: No, I think you continually post lies, say dishonest things, and other half truths to support and defend Palestinian terrorism and the destruction of Israel. Half truths you say!? Well holy shit, that's quite the admission coming from you! Never mind the lies and dishonest things for now. What half-truths are you talking about? 30 minutes ago, User said: I already did. Cite. Be specific or STFU. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Half truths you say!? Well holy shit, that's quite the admission coming from you! Never mind the lies and dishonest things for now. What half-truths are you talking about? What was your point here again? 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Cite. Be specific or STFU. Already did. Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 18 minutes ago, User said: What was your point here again? Countering the dishonest bullshit you people spew - that Palestinians started it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Countering the dishonest bullshit you people spew - that Palestinians started it. No, you are just defending and supporting the rape, torture, murder and hostage taking of innocent people by Hamas. Quote
eyeball Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 18 minutes ago, User said: No, you are just defending and supporting the rape, torture, murder and hostage taking of innocent people by Hamas. No, I'm simply rubbing your nose in the fact that Israel and the people who created it started behaving this way first and they're still behaving this way to this day. I've always said Hamas belongs in the ICC for behaving the same way. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 minute ago, eyeball said: No, I'm simply rubbing your nose in the fact that Israel and the people who created it started behaving this way first and they're still behaving this way to this day. I've always said Hamas belongs in the ICC for behaving the same way. No, you are all talk. At the end of the day you support their terrorism and the destruction of Israel. Quote
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