Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: No, reality is what man makes it where he CAN So reality is variable then eh? I know a few folks who commute to work into the sunrise and return home with the setting sun in their eyes... any help with that would be appreciated. Where he can is fraught with human foibles, misunderstandings etc. I'd urge caution. 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: We need to keep the flammable vegetation down to levels manageable with the water available in urban environments. First moderately sensible thing you've said. Would you like to get started on that soon or do you want to wait for planetary terraforming and global emission control efforts to work their magic? Edited January 9 by Venandi Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 23 minutes ago, Venandi said: I think a few progressives in California are now on the verge of tapping. What surprises me is the stratospheric level of absurdity (measured in pain) that was required. Here's a pretty liberal minded lady who seems onboard with the hyenas. You can only defend absurdity for so long... it was a good run though. But, just like that uncut trans chick competing in women's powerlifting events, I can't see this progressive narrative successfully competing with reality for too much longer. At some point people will choke on the absurdity of it all. Careful Herb it's FOX news. Eat some blueberries and take a nap: https://www.foxnews.com/video/6366870066112 This transcends LW / RW animosities by orders of magnitude... there are people who should be going to jail over this. It's FOS LIES. AKA LIARS PROVEN to the tune of $800M libel penalty. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Venandi said: So reality is variable then eh? I know a few folks who commute to work into the sunrise and return home with the setting sun in their eyes... any help with that would be appreciated. You mean you can't figure out how to change that reality? LMAO ㊙️ Just move or take the bus/train. Duh 1 minute ago, Venandi said: First moderately sensible thing you've said. Would you like to get started on that soon or do you want to wait for planetary terraforming and global emission control efforts to work their magic? Like I said, we need short term mitigation until we adopt non-fossil fuel energy production. It's here and coming faster all the time since it became cost effective. 1 Quote
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 minute ago, robosmith said: It's FOS LIES. AKA LIARS PROVEN to the tune of $800M libel penalty. I'm guessing FOS is FOX. Take a look at the pending libel disaster looming for CNN and know that even hyenas don't discredit media reporting out of hand and without cause. Look a little harder, dig a little deeper and above all, please stay the hell away from recruiting centres. Quote
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: You mean you can't figure out how to change that reality? LMAO Don't laugh too much of that a$$ off... you're now on record as acknowledging the existence of reality. A good first step IMO. You even came up with a reasonable solution to mitigate the effects of it, did you even realize you were doing that, do you realize that's exactly what I was hoping for? keep working on it. Edited January 9 by Venandi Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Venandi said: I'm guessing FOS is FOX. Nope FULL of SHIT because they have proven they are LIARS. 1 minute ago, Venandi said: Take a look at the pending libel disaster looming for CNN and know that even hyenas don't discredit media reporting out of hand and without cause. Post it here and I'll look at it. 1 minute ago, Venandi said: Look a little harder, dig a little deeper and above all, please stay the hell away from recruiting centres. Whe would I go there when I never have before? I learned long ago that the military treats their cannon fodder like shit. 1 minute ago, Venandi said: Don't laugh too much of that a$$ off... you're now on record as acknowledging the existence of reality. A good first step IMO. You even came up with a reasonable solution to mitigate the effects of it, did you even realize you were doing that... keep working on it. You need to work on understanding how YOU can change reality. It's far from FIXED like you've suggested. Quote
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Post it here and I'll look at it. Grow up... do your own homework. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Venandi said: Don't laugh too much of that a$$ off... you're now on record as acknowledging the existence of reality. A good first step IMO. You even came up with a reasonable solution to mitigate the effects of it, did you even realize you were doing that... keep working on it. I told you it's mitigation. Duh. Just now, Venandi said: Grow up... do your own homework. You made the claim; it's YOUR JOB to prove it, or you LOSE the DEBATE. Quote
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: You need to work on understanding how YOU can change reality. It's far from FIXED like you've suggested. Good Lord...you didn't change reality, you adapted to it, you found a reasonable way of mitigating the effects of it. You changed nothing except your own behaviour in response to something you had zero control over. Reality is what it is whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not and whether you adapt to it or not. 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: I learned long ago that the military treats their cannon fodder like shit. Are you a voter.... I don't blame the military for that. I blame you. Edited January 9 by Venandi Quote
Black Dog Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Venandi said: Total, abject, unmitigated negligence and incompetence. I find it absolutely breathtaking.... but the fact you needed to ask suggests you disagree. I'm a pilot by trade, I very much doubt you would want me to fly your family members around with the same attention to detail on display here. If I did, I'm guessing you would be first in line with a lawsuit. I'm asking what specific "absurd" things people need to be accountable for. Do you have any specifics or just a general feeling of aggrievance? ... I should point out conservative have historically opposed climate mitigation/adaptation measures since that would have meant acknowledging that there was a problem in the first place. Edited January 10 by Black Dog 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Venandi said: Good Lord...you didn't change reality, you adapted to it, you found a reasonable way of mitigating the effects of it. You changed nothing except your own behaviour in response to something you had zero control over. YOU have control over the sun getting in your eyes. That is the reality you were complaining about and didn't know how to fix. 2 minutes ago, Venandi said: Reality is what it is whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not and whether you adapt to it or not. The damage done to the climate is reality caused by man and fixable by man. 2 minutes ago, Venandi said: Are you a voter.... I don't blame the military for that. I blame you. I don't care WHO YOU BLAME. LMAO The FACT is the military treated soldiers like shit LONG BEFORE I came along. Quote
Venandi Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: I'm asking what specific "absurd" things people need to be accountable for. Do you have any specifics or just a general feeling of aggrievance? I'm referring to the lack of effort to mitigate known threats and actions that run contrary to even acknowledging the existence of them. What I've learned here is that taking the time to answer questions like yours is wasted. You could easily do your own homework but you won't. Watch the video, test the veracity of some of the statements and decide what you would have done if you were running the war room. Quote
Venandi Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 minute ago, robosmith said: YOU have control over the sun getting in your eyes. That is the reality you were complaining about and didn't know how to fix. Ok, I guess we're done here. If this poor hyena didn't know where the sun rises and sets then you wasted a lot of money training him... and you should never have trusted such a creature with the keys to a 60 million dollar airplane that you payed for. How's that for reality? Quote
Venandi Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 (edited) 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: I don't care WHO YOU BLAME. LMAO Laughing and not caring makes up the bulk of that sentiment doesn't it? Unfortunately, it pretty much represents the "reality" many veterans are facing these days. Forget global warming... just mitigate that for me. Edited January 10 by Venandi Quote
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Venandi said: Ok, I guess we're done here. If this poor hyena didn't know where the sun rises and sets then you wasted a lot of money training him... and you should never have trusted such a creature with the keys to a 60 million dollar airplane that you payed for. How's that for reality? I played NO ROLE in "trusting" you with an airplane for which I NEVER PAID. Quote
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, Venandi said: Laughing and not caring makes up the bulk of that sentiment doesn't it? Why should I care about who YOU blame for ANYTHING? You're just a smart ass who posts DRIVEL. 3 minutes ago, Venandi said: Unfortunately, it's pretty much represents the "reality" many veterans are facing these days. Go cry to Trump about his plans to privatize veteran healthcare. Project 2025's War on Veterans Veterans Healthcare Policy Institute https://veteranspolicy.org › post › project-2025s-war-on-... Oct 8, 2024 — According to a report published by the Veterans Healthcare Policy Institute, Project 2025 aims to dismantle one of the most vital institutions ... 3 minutes ago, Venandi said: Forget global warming... just mitigate that for me. Rescind your vote for Trump, fool. Quote
User Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: Go cry to Trump about his plans to privatize veteran healthcare You know, for as much as you cry about Fox News lying, one might think you would care a bit more about being more honest yourself. Project 2025 isn’t Trumps plan. Quote
Venandi Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: I played NO ROLE in "trusting" you with an airplane for which I NEVER PAID. Somehow I feel relived by that, it renders you irrelevant. 58 minutes ago, robosmith said: Rescind your vote for Trump, fool. I had nothing to do with Trump's election but I'm beginning to think you did. Without you and the general malaise you spawned Trump wouldn't be a blip on that radar screen you seem unable to interpret without a hyena. 58 minutes ago, robosmith said: Why should I care about who YOU blame for ANYTHING? I see your point, multitasking isn't for everyone, your time would be better spent caring about where you're headed than where I've been, I don't remember seeing you there anyway. Cheers Edited January 10 by Venandi Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 7 hours ago, Black Dog said: Right-wing social media influencer Rogan O’Handley, known online as “DC_Draino,” posted pictures of Crowley and the New Orleans police chief — both women — and wrote, “DEI is quite literally getting people killed.” He added, “Bring back merit.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25] Gateway Pundit contributor Drew Hernandez wrote, “At least Los Angeles had its first lesbian fire chief. How’s that working out? DEI = DIE.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25] Anti-LGBTQ account Libs of TikTok, run by Chaya Raichik, posted a picture of Crowley and said, “She boasts about being the first female and LGBTQ fire chief in the LA Fire Department. Promoting a culture of DEI is her priority. Does this make you feel safer?” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25; The Washington Post, 4/19/22] On his prime-time Fox News program, host Jesse Watters showed an image of three women leaders of the LAFD and said, “This is the leadership of the LA Fire Department — I sure hope they know what they’re doing,” while shaking his head, and later claimed that “California is committing suicide before our very eyes. DEI is deadly.” Watters also said the fire chief marched in Pride parades, adding, “Have all the pride you want, but you better make sure you’re ready to do your job when it counts,” and he also claimed that “California has a program to scrub white males from the fire department.” [Fox News, Jesse Watters Primetime, 1/8/25; Los Angeles Fire Department, accessed 1/9/25, 1/9/25] Newsmax host Rob Finnerty suggested Crowley was hired only due to DEI and declared that “these are not once-in-a-generation wildfires. This is not climate change. This is death by DEI.” He said: “This is death by DEI once again, just like we saw last week in New Orleans with Ann Kirkpatrick, the DEI hire police chief. … In Los Angeles, it's the exact same story: death by DEI, this time with their brand new fire chief. … The first LGBTQ fire chief, something we can all hope to have in our own towns one day. The mayor even had her marching in the LA Pride parade in front of the fire engines. OK. Never mind that she's incompetent.” [Newsmax, Finnerty, 1/8/25] Far-right host Alex Jones posted that “DEI Equals societal collapse.” Jones was responding to a post about Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass visiting Ghana when the fires broke out. Local reporting noted that Bass was “in Accra this week as part of a delegation to celebrate the inauguration of Ghana President John Mahama,” but she “was on her way back to Los Angeles Wednesday morning as the city remained under siege from several major wildfires.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25; KTLA 5, 1/8/25] Posting about the fires, right-wing commentator Dave Rubin attacked DEI as “repackaged racism,” saying, “there is finite time and manpower, and if you choose to waste them on DEI your core competency will diminish.” Rubin added that “while there are a myriad of reasons these fires are so bad, even one day of the fire department wasting on hiring more minorities or sensitivity training is one too many.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25, 1/8/25] On Hannity, Fox News contributor Leo Terrell attacked “DEI nonsense that that LA Fire Department chief supports,” and he baselessly claimed that the LAFD has “no intention of putting out these fires.” [Fox News, Hannity, 1/8/25] Right-wing pundit Mike Cernovich lamented that the “Los Angeles Fire Department chief is a DEI advocate.” In another post about the fires, Cernovich wrote that “DEI spells DIE.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25, 1/8/25] On Truth Social, Rumble host Donald Trump Jr. questioned, “Can we rename DEI to DIE since that’s what seems to happen to the people downstream of those who place woke virtue signaling far above competency?!?” [Truth Social, 1/8/25] Right-wing activist Robby Starbuck asserted that “DEI has deadly consequences because ANY focus on it means resources stolen from the true mission of first responders saving lives” in response to a Libs of TikTok post saying that Crowley “is hailed as the first female and LGBTQ chief and says her priority is DEI.” He added, “Think of the money and time spent on DEI for LA Fire Dept. What if it was spent on more firefighters, water resources or infrastructure improvements?” Starbuck has reportedly “claimed success for pushing 15 public companies to change or abandon their DEI and LGBTQ policies.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25; The Wall Street Journal, 1/7/25] Responding to a Libs of TikTok post that said the “LA Fire Department’s first female LGBTQ chief created a DEI Bureau to train firefighters in DEI,” BlazeTV host Allie Beth Stuckey asserted that “DEI is a tool of destruction everywhere it’s wielded. It literally leads to death.” She added: “Diversity is NOT a worthy goal in itself. Effectiveness is. And when you sacrifice effectiveness for diversity, especially within a fire department, police force or military unit, people will die. I’m tired of innocent people’s lives being placed on the altar of equity. Enough.” [Twitter/X, 1/8/25] Right-wing social media figure Phillip Buchanan, known online as “Catturd,” wrote “Another massive DEI failure” in response to a video about Crowley seeking more women in the department. [Twitter/X, 1/8/25; Daily Dot, 11/17/23] On his show, Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk called the wildfires “a major public policy disaster, and for people in California that have been voting for Democrats, this is what you get — you get mismanaged government, you get woke fire departments.” On social media, Kirk also lamented that Los Angeles had a “DEI fire chief.” [Real America’s Voice, The Charlie Kirk Show, 1/8/25; Twitter/X, 1/8/25] An Infowars article titled “Lesbian Los Angeles Fire Chief Roasted For Prioritizing DEI As Palisades Inferno Destroys City” asserted that the “city’s DEI policies [are] harming the fire department.” The article ended by claiming that “California’s Democrat policies are openly harming its citizens.” [Infowars, 1/8/25] And? Pointing out stupid policies get bad results is not the same as celebrating someone losing their life or house. Like, how do you even think they are remotely the same? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 9 7 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: I don't know anyone who celebrated North Carolina or Florida getting hit by a Hurricane. I celebrated Luigi terminating a heartless CEO who denied thousands of Americans lifesaving operations, to fatten his wallet, while being investigated for white collar crimes. I only celebrate James Woods home being burnt down since he is a POS. However, my heart goes out to the people of Southern California, and I hope Canada can help them fight the fires. meanwhile, Trump is going on and on, blaming Gavin Newsom, and is making it political, while the majority of his followers "hope LA burns to the ground, since it's in a blue state." MAGA are awful people. Well, let me remind you: Liberals Giddy Over Hurricane Ian Because It Might Hurt Ron DeSantis The rest is you proving me right. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: 9 Well, let me remind you: Liberals Giddy Over Hurricane Ian Because It Might Hurt Ron DeSantis The rest is you proving me right. Provide an article from an impartial source, not far-right trash news. Townhall generally presents story selection that always favors the right and uses negative wording to describe the left. There is little balance in story presentation, with all information favoring the right without presenting a left perspective or counter-argument. The opinion columnists with Townhall have poor fact-check records, such as Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, and Ben Shapiro. Straight news reporting is generally sourced properly and factual, though worded in favor of the right, while guest blog posts have an abysmal track record with fact-checkers. source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/townhall/ Quote
Legato Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Not rising at the current rate and rolling back the huge increases in the last 100 years. Which are? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Not rising at the current rate and rolling back the huge increases in the last 100 years. Yes. The chicken Littles love to use the 100 year chart. Why? It turns out that the temperature changes, historically, aren't a solid linear line. The temperature changes look more like the stock market. While you can normalize the trend, the data set shows peaks and valleys as it climbs and falls. The chicken Littles love to use 100 years ago because that is a valley. So take a look at this. If you go back about 1000 years, you will see that the global temperature was about .8 degree C cooler. Meanwhile, chicken Littles are trying to tell you we have gained 1.5 degrees in the last 100 years. It sounds scarey, but it isn't the truth. The truth is CO2 is a by product of increased temperatures and it is because CO2 is produced by increasing temperatures that the planet is able to produce more vegetation and thus more life. It's called science. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 (edited) 42 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It turns out that the temperature changes, historically, aren't a solid linear line. The temperature changes look more like the stock market. While you can normalize the trend, the data set shows peaks and valleys as it climbs and falls. The chicken Littles love to use 100 years ago because that is a valley. So take a look at this. If you go back about 1000 years, you will see that the global temperature was about .8 degree C cooler. Meanwhile, chicken Littles are trying to tell you we have gained 1.5 degrees in the last 100 years. It sounds scarey, but it isn't the truth. The truth is CO2 is a by product of increased temperatures and it is because CO2 is produced by increasing temperatures that the planet is able to produce more vegetation and thus more life. It's called science. Do you know how to read charts? The graph clearly shows temperature dramatically rising for the past 100 years or so, more than any time in human history. Edited January 10 by DUI_Offender 1 Quote
User Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 18 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Do you know how to read charts? The graph clearly shows temperature dramatically rising for the past 100 years or so, more than any time in human history. Yeah, we can read charts, we can also critically evaluate them as well. Figuring that we did not have satellites in the year 1000 with bouys across the ocean, weather stations covering the Earth, all measuring the Global Surface Temperatures... this chart is "created" based on assumptions with limited data. Vikings were farming in Greenland during that Medieval Warm Period, but yeah, sure, it was much colder then than now... Quote
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