Another Monster Attacks a School

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I am not objective

I am entirely subjective in the face of Democrat party traitors to the republic

and their speech banning gun grabbing Christian hating tyranny

Well I am objective. I do not assume based on bias. I prefer to act upon solid info not warm and fuzzy feelings. 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You aren't willing to do anything about it so obviously the body count is acceptable. School kids should have the freedom not to be gunned down in schools just so any Bubba can have his AR. 

but this was only a 9mm pistol you leftist lunatic Canadian gun grabbing kook

Just now, impartialobserver said:

Well I am objective. I do not assume based on bias. I prefer to act upon solid info not warm and fuzzy feelings. 

bullshit

you're a Democrat party sympathizer, don't lie

[gatomontes99]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You aren't willing to do anything about it so obviously the body count is acceptable. School kids should have the freedom not to be gunned down in schools just so any Bubba can have his AR. 

Oh, I'm willing to do something. I'm willing to allow teachers to be armed, provided they attend the proper training and provide proof of proficiency with their weapon. I'm willing to fund armed school resource officers to monitor and protect the children. I'm willing to provide funding and training to school  counselors to identify threats before they happen. I'm willing to fund mental health awareness education that will help students to identify and accept when they need help and identify when their friends need help. I'm willing to fund mental health treatment for those students that are a risk.

What I'm not willing to do is to take away someone's rights WHEN THEY DID NOTHING WRONG.

You know what gets fixed if we ban guns completely? Absolutely nothing. The gun isn't the problem. The people are the problem. The kid that did this is a problem. The people that didn't identify his anguish are the problem. The people, LIKE YOU, that refuse to identify the problem, are the problem. I want to fix that.

11 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Well I am objective. I do not assume based on bias. I prefer to act upon solid info not warm and fuzzy feelings. 

Yes, you are very object and completely self aware, I might add.

/sarcasm

Edited December 16, 2024 by gatomontes99

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh, I'm willing to do something. I'm willing to allow teachers to be armed, provided they attend the proper training and provide proof of proficiency with their weapon. I'm willing to fund armed school resource officers to monitor and protect the children. I'm willing to provide funding and training to school  counselors to identify threats before they happen. I'm willing to fund mental health awareness education that will help students to identify and accept when they need help and identify when their friends need help. I'm willing to fund mental health treatment for those students that are a risk.

What I'm not willing to do is to take away someone's rights WHEN THEY DID NOTHING WRONG.

You know what gets fixed if we ban guns completely? Absolutely nothing. The gun isn't the problem. The people are the problem. The kid that did this is a problem. The people that didn't identify his anguish are the problem. The people, LIKE YOU, that refuse to identify the problem, are the problem. I want to fix that.

don't waste your time trying to reason with an hysterical Canadian Nanny State authoritarian

the point is only for this clown to be a sneering priggish twit

Canadians suffer from an inferiority complex vis a vis America 

so invoking some vague sense of moral superiority is literally all they got

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

don't waste your time trying to reason with an hysterical Canadian Nanny State authoritarian

the point is only for this clown to be a sneering priggish twit

Canadians suffer from an inferiority complex vis a vis America 

so invoking some vague sense of moral superiority is literally all they got

#truth

But some aren't so bad.

[User]

18 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You aren't willing to do anything about it so obviously the body count is acceptable. School kids should have the freedom not to be gunned down in schools just so any Bubba can have his AR. 

We have a ton of laws regarding this. Many of us do want to do more to protect schools from eliminating the absurd gun free zones to helping to harden them from being such easy targets. 

Also, this was not an AR. Reports are showing it was a pistol. 

So much for banning Assault weapons being the solution... 

 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

#truth

it's a Canadian pathology deeply ingrained in the culture

Canadians have a vastly inflated sense of their own importance  derived from the British Empire

thus they resent being dominated by America in the wake of said Empire's collapse

so they cling to their Victorian priggishness, as a defence mechanism

[Dougie93]

19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

But some aren't so bad.

Canadians are nice, but not good

polite, but not warm

see how they represent as sneering upper class twits ?

Victorian Canadian society is the most passive aggressive on earth

more British than the British themselves

in fear & loathing of an American juggernaut ever at their gates

anything related to the 1st & 2nd Amendments will set them off into authoritarian self repression therein

Manifest Destiny stalks the land as a terrifying prospect here

yeehaw

 

[Aristides]

42 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but this was only a 9mm pistol you leftist lunatic Canadian gun grabbing kook

bullshit

you're a Democrat party sympathizer, don't lie

OK, so any Bubba can have his 9mm pistol. OK now?

You would like to make it about politics when it is really about dead kids.

I've said many times that Canadian gun laws were a good compromise between ownership and public safety before Trudeau started messing with them.

Edited December 16, 2024 by Aristides

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

OK, so any Bubba can have his 9mm pistol. OK now?

You would like to make it about politics when it is really about dead kids.

Yet, you ran away from a solution that didn't involve taking away rights. When the solution isn't government tyranny, it isn't your bag of doughnuts. You want total control over people. And the best way to get that is to control everything they own and do.

[impartialobserver]

42 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but this was only a 9mm pistol you leftist lunatic Canadian gun grabbing kook

bullshit

you're a Democrat party sympathizer, don't lie

Struck a nerve? No, I simply prefer to rely on solid info. If there is no info or not enough, a rational person does not make assumptions or fill in the blanks. 

[User]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

OK, so any Bubba can have his 9mm pistol. OK now?

And we get to the real root of your position, which is to oppose all gun ownership. 

This is a Constitutional right here and the genie is out of the bottle. We have hundreds of years of gun ownership, hundreds of millions of guns owned by almost half the adult population. 

We are long past your unicorns and rainbows dreams of being gun free. 

So, let us know when you want to talk about something tangible. 

 

[impartialobserver]

Even if the second amendment was to be repealed right now (I know, it will not happen), shootings such as this would still happen. There are too many in circulation for gun laws to be truly effective. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

OK, so any Bubba can have his 9mm pistol. OK now?

You would like it to be about politics when it is really about dead kids.

the land of the free, must be the home of the brave

unlike subservient Canada, America is a warrior culture

America has always put her children into the fire

to defend & uphold the Declaration of Independence Preamble

it is not politics, it is religion

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, User said:

And we get to the real root of your position, which is to oppose all gun ownership. 

This is a Constitutional right here and the genie is out of the bottle. We have hundreds of years of gun ownership, hundreds of millions of guns owned by almost half the adult population. 

We are long past your unicorns and rainbows dreams of being gun free. 

So, let us know when you want to talk about something tangible. 

 

How many times do I have to say that Canadian laws were a good compromise between ownership and public safety before Trudeau started messing with them.

Those dead kids are on people like you because you put the right of any id*ot to own any gun they want above the lives of children.

You aren't capable of dealing with anything other than in extremes.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Struck a nerve?

Copperheads & Doughfaces are an ignominious fifth column for the enemies of American freedom

we have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel

Glorious Union, to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

you're either wit' us, or agin' us

 

[impartialobserver]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

Copperheads & Doughfaces are an ignominious fifth column for the enemies of American freedom

we have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel

Glorious Union, to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

you're either wit' us, or agin' us

 

completely off topic. So in short, you have no problem with folks making assumptions instead of relying on solid info. That's all you have to say. 

[User]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

How many times do I have to say that Canadian laws were a good compromise between ownership and public safety before Trudeau started messing with them.

Those dead kids are on people like you because you put the right of any id*ot to own any gun they want above the lives of children.

You aren't capable of dealing with anything other than in extremes.

Canadians have never had the same level of gun ownership Americans have nor is it a Constitutional right. 

I just got done offering a solution, and you jump to saying the dead kids are on me?

How about you are a piece of shit who champions 900,000 dead kids a year and you have the gall to talk to me about dead kids in a school shooting. 

The only person here dealing in extremes right now between the two of us is you. 

[impartialobserver]

Just now, User said:

Canadians have never had the same level of gun ownership Americans have nor is it a Constitutional right. 

I just got done offering a solution, and you jump to saying the dead kids are on me?

How about you are a piece of shit who champions 900,000 dead kids a year and you have the gall to talk to me about dead kids in a school shooting. 

The only person here dealing in extremes right now between the two of us is you. 

In short, he is trying to say that we should prioritize the lives of the kids over individual gun ownership. Well.. hate to burst the bubble but this is not some binary choice. Can't simply click one box and then submit and be done. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Canadians have never had the same level of gun ownership Americans have nor is it a Constitutional right.

the American right is British in origin

English Bill of Rights 1689

the right of Protestants to bear arms in the face of Papist tyranny

come across on the boat with the Scots Irish to the New World

the Well Regulated Militia born in the British Seven Years War against the French

gun control was never a Canadian invention

gun control came from the American Old West to deal with gunfights at the saloons

only being imported to Canada, in order to disarm the First Nations, during the Northwest Rebellion of 1885

[Aristides]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

the American right is British in origin

English Bill of Rights 1689

the right of Protestants to bear arms in the face of Papist tyranny

come across on the boat with the Scots Irish to the New World

the Well Regulated Militia born in the British Seven Years War against the French

gun control was never a Canadian invention

gun control came from the American Old West to deal with gunfights at the saloons

only being imported to Canada, in order to disarm the First Nations, during the Northwest Rebellion of 1885

Britain isn't still living it the 17th century.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Britain isn't still living it the 17th century.

Britain hardly even exists anymore

Canadians are de facto Americans now

the frozen farm team for the Democrat party traitors to the republic

[Dougie93]

42 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I've said many times that Canadian gun laws were a good compromise between ownership and public safety before Trudeau started messing with them.

it wasn't Trudeau

everything was perfectly reasonable before the hysteria around the Montreal Massacre of the Feminists in 1989

before that, we could buy all sorts of assault rifles, all you needed was a Restricted FAC

[Aristides]

29 minutes ago, User said:

Canadians have never had the same level of gun ownership Americans have nor is it a Constitutional right. 

I just got done offering a solution, and you jump to saying the dead kids are on me?

How about you are a piece of shit who champions 900,000 dead kids a year and you have the gall to talk to me about dead kids in a school shooting. 

The only person here dealing in extremes right now between the two of us is you. 

You have offered excuses, not solutions

As I said, the body count is acceptable so just spare us the fake outrage every time this happens.

[User]

Just now, Aristides said:

You have offered excuses, not solutions

This is an outright lie. 

Just now, Aristides said:

As I said, the body count is acceptable so just spare us the fake outrage every time this happens.

You are the one with the fake outrage here.