No longer a British colony, Canada becomes the 51st US state.

[Zeitgeist]

35 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but what would that opposition even be fighting for ?

to wit, Canada is not a leviathan, Canada is a void

the tyranny in Canada is the tyranny of chaos

in that,  Canada has already been overthrown and replaced with the Post National State by default

there is simply nothing to replace the Canada that was

I mean, haven't you noticed how all the people inciting disorder in the streets are foreigners ?

it's just foreigners fighting their own wars imported to Canada

the native born Canadians have no actual idea what they stand for, nor what they would fight for therein

Justin Trudeau did not invent the Post National State,

he simply articulated the facts of the matter already in place

Well I’d say half the country, largely but not exclusively Canadian born, see the existential attack on the founding cultures and early builders of Canada.  That’s what the Freedom Convoy was really about.  Vaccine mandate opposition was just about free speech and individual rights.  It was the first large-scale test of the Charter that we were told by Pierre Trudeau and the CBC would protect the rights we thought we had as Canadians and that our ancestors fought to protect.  Instead we learned that they’re so watered down as to be relatively worthless.  It made us look to the US and back in time to the English Common Law we relied on before The Constitution Act.

Canadians let a critical mistake happen: We forgot that not all cultures are equal and that you do have to rally around your own founding, controlling culture or you will succumb to the domination of others.  Multiculturalism, the attack on traditional values with the Quiet Revolution, the dismantling of our military, and the poorly-supported, weakly-crafted Canadian Constitution essentially severed Canadians from their cultural roots and put us at the mercy of hordes of immigrants whose values and wars we don’t fully comprehend and that undermine some of the best aspects of Canada.

It happened so quickly that we don’t know what hit us. Even worse, the dumbest, most radical left Canadians have become a kind of Maoist guard for the very forces that are dismantling our culture and way of life.  They want communism and a kind of climate action totalitarianism.  They consider Canadians to be settler colonialists and have allied with the radical burn it all down Indigenous activists.  Christians and Jews are unsafe in what was recently a Judeo-Christian country.

We’re not even allowed to develop and sell our natural resources, because our own government and education systems are telling us it’s colonial theft and destroying the planet.  Basically our government isn’t acting in the interests of Canadians.  It’s at the mercy of unaccountable international directives because they’ve dismantled Canada and made Canadians believe they deserve less.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well I’d say half the country, largely but not exclusively Canadian born, see the existential attack on the founding cultures and early builders of Canada.  That’s what the Freedom Convoy was really about.  Vaccine mandate opposition was just about free speech and individual rights.  It was the first large-scale test of the Charter that we were told by Pierre Trudeau and the CBC would protect the rights we thought we had as Canadians and that our ancestors fought to protect.  Instead we learned that they’re so watered down as to be relatively worthless.  It made us look to the US and back in time to the English Common Law we relied on before The Constitution Act.

Canadians let a critical mistake happen: We forgot that not all cultures are equal and that you do have to rally around your own founding, controlling culture or you will succumb to the domination of others.  Multiculturalism, the attack on traditional values with the Quiet Revolution, the dismantling of our military, and the poorly-supported, weakly-crafted Canadian Constitution essentially severed Canadians from their cultural roots and put us at the mercy of hordes of immigrants whose values and wars we don’t fully comprehend and that undermine some of the best aspects of Canada.

It happened so quickly that we don’t know what hit us.  Even worse, the dumbest, most radical left Canadians have become a kind of Maoist guard for the very forces that are dismantling our culture and way of life.  They want communism and a kind of climate action totalitarianism.  They consider Canadians to be settler colonialists and have allied with the radical burn it all down Indigenous activists.  Christians and Jews are unsafe in what was recently a Judeo-Christian country.  

what's done is done

there's no going back now

Canada has dissolved itself into a void, by its own hand

and there is only one thing which can fill that void

Manifest Destiny

[athos]

If Russia annexed Crimea why wouldn't the US grab Canada.

😄

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, athos said:

If Russia annexed Crimea why wouldn't the US grab Canada.

😄

there is no reason to use force

Canada is coming to us by its own free will

Canada having erased Canadian history and culture;  they have nowhere else to go

[athos]

Trump's peace deals in Ukraine:
Trump to Putin: "You take Ukraine, I take Canada."
Putin: "No problem Mr president".

😄

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

there is no reason to use force

Canada is coming to us by its own free will

Canada having erased Canadian history and culture;  they have nowhere else to go

You may be right, and it may be the last line of defence to protect what’s left of that thing we keep harkening back to: the spirit of Vimy, the bilingual, bi-cultural impossible peace between the Protestants and the Catholics, and the glory days of Tecumseh, the Battle of Queenston Heights, and before that with Wolfe and Montcalm, and before with Brebeuf, and on and on…

[Zeitgeist]

35 minutes ago, athos said:

Trump's peace deals in Ukraine:
Trump to Putin: "You take Ukraine, I take Canada."
Putin: "No problem Mr president".

😄

It’s not about countries invading countries in North America.  That’s unnecessary and wouldn’t pass muster in any branch of any North American government without a damn good reason. It’s about the culture war, the war of ideas.  The progressives have lost the culture war in the West, at least in North America.  It was really a civil war in America that hit Canada in a big way during the last year of the pandemic.  The Canadian government would change hands whether or not Trump won, but he did win. It all happened democratically, without a single battle. Trudeau knows he’s on the ropes. If Trump didn’t win, Poilievre would still win the next election, but he’d have a harder time implementing a conservative anti-woke agenda. With Trump in office, we should see a sweet ascendant political alignment on the conservative side like we haven’t seen since Mulroney and Reagan.  

Edited December 5, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[CDN1]

I'd rather become an American state than an Indian one. Third world shithole here we come.

Edited December 5, 2024 by CDN1

[Politics1990]

no thanks  zero interest in being american

[Dougie93]

17 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You may be right, and it may be the last line of defence to protect what’s left of that thing we keep harkening back to: the spirit of Vimy, the bilingual, bi-cultural impossible peace between the Protestants and the Catholics, and the glory days of Tecumseh, the Battle of Queenston Heights, and before that with Wolfe and Montcalm, and before with Brebeuf, and on and on…

a people without a history are easy to control

but the question is why ? 

why is the Laurentian Elite ruling class obsessed with authoritarian control of the population ?

I would suggest that the catalyst is that the Confederation is a failed state

the Confederation was intended to be a mutual trade and defence pact against the Americans

and clearly the exact opposite has been the result

ergo, Canada serves no actual purpose,

other than as a Potemkin Village to enable the power, perks & prerogatives of despots in Ottawa

you'll note how every political strategy in Canada is a variation of divide & conquer

now exponentially so with the imposition of Woke Progressive identity politics

this is not by accident, this is by design

take for just one example to illustrate ; Remembrance Day

why are the Woke Progressives now destroying Remembrance Day ?

because that is one of the very few remaining institutions which binds all Canadians together

it's not that these totalitarian lunatics are ignorant, they know exactly what they are doing and why

"Decolonizing" Canada into a servile Post National State is a means to an end

and of course the most frightening prospect for the Laurentian Elite is American populism

since that is a unifying force against their despotic rule, which dwarfs them by orders of magnitude

one third of the population supporting MAGA is a huge number

but more importantly, it's not limited to any region, it's in every region at once

I would also suggest that the real number is greater than 30%

bear in mind how the Liberals & Democrats vastly underrate their opposition

the MAGA vote is a largely silent vote when it comes to polling

that would be even more the case in Canada,

where the population is even more severely censored and/or cancelled for dissenting from the Elite orthodoxy

 

[Dougie93]

17 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s not about countries invading countries in North America.  That’s unnecessary and wouldn’t pass muster in any branch of any North American government without a damn good reason. It’s about the culture war, the war of ideas.

the threat is not invasion nor even insurrection

the threat is disintegration

every institution in Canada is hollowed out

there's no there there, other than Woke Progressive lunatics drinking their own bathwater

these institutions are as a result incapable of carrying out their purposes

the military, the police, the courts, education, healthcare,  unions, professional associations,

the Parliament itself

the general population is not want to overthrow these institutions, quite the opposite

the public is rather clambering for these institutions to do their jobs

but it's all so ideologically captured by a self immolating lunatic cult

that these institutions are no longer capable of performing their roles effectively

the result being ever expanding disorder, the tyranny of chaos

[taxme]

On 12/3/2024 at 5:10 PM, athos said:

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in panic. Canada was offered to be 51st US state.

Trump will replace King Charles III as head of Canada's state.

 

I am 50/50 on whether or not Canada should become a part of America. With Trump now the President, i can lean towards the idea of wanting Canada to now become a part of America. Our Canadian dollar is a disaster and all due to this spend crazy arse hole dictator in Ottawa. Our dollar today should be at least on par with the American dollar. Our Canadian dollar is now costing Canadians fifty cents to the American dollar. I took two hundred dollars out of an American bank machine and it cost me almost $300 in exchange. Now i know as to why i see so many American license plates at the border. Americans now pay almost $40 to $50 less on what they use or buy in Canada than what i pay when i buy anything in Canada. America is not cheap anymore for Canadians to go and visit. ☹️

Canada will never see it's full potential until that Marxist globalist dictator in Ottawa is removed, arrested and jailed, from his dictators throne. Canada should be one of the most wealthiest countries on earth, but instead we are now Marxist woke and bloody well broke thanks to that punk spoiled kid in Ottawa. If that buffoon tried to start up a lemonade stand business, it would be full of bureaucrats and rules and regulations that should help the business in going bankrupt very quickly. 

Right now, joining America as the 51st state looks really great. 😇

[Dougie93]

4 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

no thanks  zero interest in being american

America has zero interest in making Canada into America

none the less, Generation Z, raised on their American smartphones totally immersed in the American religion

have already become Americans by default

they think like Americans, they act like Americans, they identify with Americans

they are indistinguishable from American Gen Z

culture is destiny

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, taxme said:

Right now, joining America as the 51st state looks really great. 😇

but America is not trying to annex Canada

quite the opposite in fact

as both the Republicans and the Democrats are becoming fiercely protectionist against Canada

America is not in the process of drawing Canada in

America is in the process of freezing Canada out

[taxme]

18 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well I’d say half the country, largely but not exclusively Canadian born, see the existential attack on the founding cultures and early builders of Canada.  That’s what the Freedom Convoy was really about.  Vaccine mandate opposition was just about free speech and individual rights.  It was the first large-scale test of the Charter that we were told by Pierre Trudeau and the CBC would protect the rights we thought we had as Canadians and that our ancestors fought to protect.  Instead we learned that they’re so watered down as to be relatively worthless.  It made us look to the US and back in time to the English Common Law we relied on before The Constitution Act.

Canadians let a critical mistake happen: We forgot that not all cultures are equal and that you do have to rally around your own founding, controlling culture or you will succumb to the domination of others.  Multiculturalism, the attack on traditional values with the Quiet Revolution, the dismantling of our military, and the poorly-supported, weakly-crafted Canadian Constitution essentially severed Canadians from their cultural roots and put us at the mercy of hordes of immigrants whose values and wars we don’t fully comprehend and that undermine some of the best aspects of Canada.

It happened so quickly that we don’t know what hit us. Even worse, the dumbest, most radical left Canadians have become a kind of Maoist guard for the very forces that are dismantling our culture and way of life.  They want communism and a kind of climate action totalitarianism.  They consider Canadians to be settler colonialists and have allied with the radical burn it all down Indigenous activists.  Christians and Jews are unsafe in what was recently a Judeo-Christian country.

We’re not even allowed to develop and sell our natural resources, because our own government and education systems are telling us it’s colonial theft and destroying the planet.  Basically our government isn’t acting in the interests of Canadians.  It’s at the mercy of unaccountable international directives because they’ve dismantled Canada and made Canadians believe they deserve less.

Fantastic. You nailed it on the head. Canada started on the road to communism when it elected that old man communist Trudeau in 1980. His first speech after winning the election was "welcome to the new Canada". I now know today what the commie meant when he made that statement. Massive third world non-white immigration, multiculturalism and bilingualism was the setting stage for the destruction of English Canada and to bring in the new Marxist Canada. Do you feel free today? I certainly do not. 

Our Charter of Rights and freedoms and the Constitution are now just words on a piece of scrap toilet paper that mean sweet dyk all anymore. Canadians have and are still losing more rights and freedoms every day. The Marxist dictator in Ottawa is trying his darndest to try and implement censorship laws that stifle free speech. 😷 Whether we want to admit it or not, we are pretty much today living in a communist country. 

There was a book i read several decades ago called "Bilingualism Today, French Tomorrow", where it explained in that book that the aim of the then old man Trudeau's plans for English Canada were to turn Canada from a British English speaking conservative freedom loving country into a french speaking controlled socialist country. It appears to have worked so far. Ever since the french socialists moved into Ottawa, Canada got worse and is pretty much now woke(censorship)and broke. The french socialists traitors from Quebec are still running Canada to this day. French socialist Quebec must separate and go, now or the old Canada that we all once knew will be gone forever.

Canada should be one of the most wealthiest countries on earth, and Canadians being filthy rich, but instead, we have become a Marxist woke and bloody broke country with no future to look forward too. It is sad to see as to what most stunned Canadians have done so far to allow the continuation of their own destruction by constantly voting for political left wing socialist party's that are only out to rob and destroy their own lifestyles and freedoms

With young WEF globalists pushers, like Trudeau and Freeland, we will only lose our freedoms in the end, and those two haters of Canada will be laughing at us all all the way to the bank. It is time for those stunned Canadians out there that it is time for some common sense and not continue on with their sheer stupidity as they have been doing for decades now. Woke the phk up, will you fools. Just my opinion. 

 

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but America is not trying to annex Canada

quite the opposite in fact

as both the Republicans and the Democrats are becoming fiercely protectionist against Canada

America is not in the process of drawing Canada in

America is in the process of freezing Canada out

As long as we have Marxist dictators in Ottawa Canada will always be on the outside looking in. Especially now, with Trump as President, we better get rid of that Marxist dictator in Ottawa ,if we want to get on the good side of Trump or we will become frozen out. We need the conservative party in Canada to win the next election if we want to be on the good side of Trump. Both party's are conservative in nature and they both should work together well. Just saying. 

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, taxme said:

As long as we have Marxist dictators in Ottawa Canada will always be on the outside looking in. Especially now, with Trump as President, we better get rid of that Marxist dictator in Ottawa ,if we want to get on the good side of Trump or we will become frozen out. We need the conservative party in Canada to win the next election if we want to be on the good side of Trump. Both party's are conservative in nature and they both should work together well. Just saying. 

the MAGA movement is fully aware of Canada's vulnerabilities,  and MAGA intends to exploit that

Canadians keep talking about how tariffs will raise prices on imports from Canada

but MAGA is willing to take that hit

because the ultimate objective is to suck jobs and investment out of Canada into America

America intends to grow the wages to meet the prices

I mean, you don't actually want prices to fall, since that would actually be a depression

all you can do is grow your way out of the inflation trap, and Canada's economy is ripe for the taking therein

[NAME REMOVED]

 

Thank God. Because of social media, I was worried support for joining the US may be as high as 25%. Luckily, the hardcore MAGA hyenas as just oddballs, and 95% of Canadians are patriotic. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

the threat is not invasion nor even insurrection

the threat is disintegration

every institution in Canada is hollowed out

there's no there there, other than Woke Progressive lunatics drinking their own bathwater

these institutions are as a result incapable of carrying out their purposes

the military, the police, the courts, education, healthcare,  unions, professional associations,

the Parliament itself

the general population is not want to overthrow these institutions, quite the opposite

the public is rather clambering for these institutions to do their jobs

but it's all so ideologically captured by a self immolating lunatic cult

that these institutions are no longer capable of performing their roles effectively

the result being ever expanding disorder, the tyranny of chaos

This is the result of a population that’s been told that everything they valued and cared about is oppressive colonial garbage.  The endless Trudeau apology and shame parade. We’re so disgusting and need to do better.  Look more billions of hard-earned dollars to pay for the dismantling of Canada.  It’s like watching an actor fire a fake gun into his temple over and over.  He’s happy to throw more of your money at his designated good people and causes, but he’s going to make sure that gun never fires a real bullet.  His crowd will say anything to look good and stay in power. Self-preservation.

As for the government of Canada as an institution.  What difference would it make to eliminate the federal government and replace it with a team of National Parks tour guides to show the architecture to tourists?  Well it would be significantly cheaper.  The provinces and territories have their own governments.  What about federal services like unprofitable postal service to remote places, management of the St. Lawrence Seaway, and military?   We could have an interprovincial committee run most of what doesn’t get divided among the provinces for provincial responsibility.  The point is that Canada is extremely over governed by an overbearing nanny managerial class.  

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

This is the result of a population that’s been told that everything they valued and cared about is oppressive colonial garbage.  The endless Trudeau apology and shame parade. We’re so disgusting and need to do better.  Look more billions of hard-earned dollars to pay for the dismantling of Canada. 

well this is in fact the original schism of Canada, right back to the Plains of Abraham

the Ulster Scots Protestant Orangemen vs. the French & Indian Roman Catholics

whom opposes British Settler Colonialism ?

the French & Indians

all that simply happened is ; the Anglo Canadians ceased to be British North American Loyalists

evolving instead into pseudo American de facto republicans

then roughly half of the Anglos joined the French & Indians, making that the dominant majority

desiring to tear Canada down and replace it with a People's Republic, otherwise known as the Post National State

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

well this is in fact the original schism of Canada, right back to the Plains of Abraham

the Ulster Scots Protestant Orangemen vs. the French & Indian Roman Catholics

whom opposes British Settler Colonialism ?

the French & Indians

all that simply happened is ; the Anglo Canadians ceased to be British North American Loyalists

evolving instead into pseudo American de facto republicans

then roughly half of the Anglos joined the French & Indians, making that the dominant majority

desiring to tear Canada down and replace it with a People's Republic, otherwise known as the Post National State

I agree with some of this assessment, but note that the Protestants in the Anglo provinces gave up their education system to the woke mob.  It’s called the public education system.  Quebec scrapped its Catholic public education system and now relies on Bill 20 and the suppression of religious expression in order to assert its French Canadian identity.  The Catholic Church used to do that quite well.  Visit any old Catholic church in Quebec and you’ll know what I mean: The first medical care and education.  Jeanne Mance.  Marguerite Bourgoiys.  The earliest European settlement in Ontario, St. Marie Among the Hurons in the 1640’s and the martyrs. The Quebec cultural Marxists slashed it all after the Quiet Revolution. English Canada, in fairness, has retained some of this culture, primarily through the last publicly funded Catholic education systems in Ontario, Alberta and Saskatchewan. Nevertheless, the Vatican seems to be collapsing under the woke mob right now.

Alberta seems to be the last jurisdiction seriously fighting to defend and preserve Canada and its bicultural roots. It’s actually winning, though it could almost as easily be folded into the US. Quebec and BC and the Maritimes are pretty much lost to the cultural Marxists. Ontario may be done too.  

Edited December 6, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

I agree with some of this assessment, but note that the Protestants in the Anglo provinces gave up their education system to the woke mob.  It’s called the public education system.

pretty sure the Catholic Schools are actually the Wokest of the Woke now

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

pretty sure the Catholic Schools are actually the Wokest of the Woke now

Some of the boards, yes, but some have retained the pre-woke values.  The battles are happening at board meetings as we speak.  

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Some of the boards, yes, but some have retained the pre-woke values.  The battles are happening at board meetings as we speak.  

sort of a pointless battle, when the Pope himself is Woke

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

sort of a pointless battle, when the Pope himself is Woke

I agree it’s a problem. It’s that cartel infiltration problem again.