2% Defense GDP by 2030

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

No, you look like any old MAGA chud to me.

Well they are your fantasies you keep bringing up so I'm sure that's what I look like in your mind when you are daydreaming your fantasies as you do     

I don't think of you at all really. 

 

[Dougie93]

On 2/22/2025 at 6:21 PM, Aristides said:

I never said we have a strong conventional force. We should have. 

you did have, until the Laurentian elite ruling class deliberately dismantled it in the name of socialist pacifism

now you are at the mercy of the Fenians at the gates

just desserts

[August1991]

On 2/22/2025 at 6:31 PM, Aristides said:

Other than the Finnish airforce, almost all of Sweden and Finlands military equipment is European sourced

Before joining NATO.

[Aristides]

17 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Before joining NATO.

The only thing the Finns have bought from the US is F-35's. They and the Swedes build their own ships and subs. Sweden builds most of its own aircraft (including fighters) they have half a dozen C-130's and a few Gulfstreams for VIP use. They build their own armoured vehicles. Finns do the same for theirs and their MBT's are German Leopards. 

[August1991]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The only thing the Finns have bought from the US is F-35's. They and the Swedes build their own ships and subs. Sweden builds most of its own aircraft (including fighters) they have half a dozen C-130's and a few Gulfstreams for VIP use. They build their own armoured vehicles. Finns do the same for theirs and their MBT's are German Leopards. 

Maybe.

I reckon Biden, Sullivan gave alot of money to the Finns and Swedes to join NATO.

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In 2021, Jake Sullivan thought that he could achieve regime-change.

[Aristides]

21 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Maybe.

I reckon Biden, Sullivan gave alot of money to the Finns and Swedes to join NATO.

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In 2021, Jake Sullivan thought that he could achieve regime-change.

Sweden didn't give up 200 years of neutrality because of Biden. They actually reinstated conscription a few years ago. Because of Russia. Finland shares its longest border with Russia and it managing that has been their priority since WW2. They joined because they see Russia as the biggest threat to them, not because of Biden. Even though they are only about 5 million people, they have one of the strongest militaries in Europe. Because of Russia.

Edited February 26 by Aristides

[August1991]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Sweden didn't give up 200 years of neutrality because of Biden. They actually reinstated conscription a few years ago. Because of Russia. Finland shares its longest border with Russia and it managing that has been their priority since WW2. They joined because they see Russia as the biggest threat to them, not because of Biden. Even though they are only about 5 million people, they have one of the strongest militaries in Europe. Because of Russia.

I know and understand all that.

Sweden and Finland today are not as before - in the 1940s, let alone the 1980s.

In 2021. Biden believed that he could change the regime in Russia. He wanted to depose Putin.

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, August1991 said:

I know and understand all that.

Sweden and Finland today are not as before - in the 1940s, let alone the 1980s.

In 2021. Biden believed that he could change the regime in Russia. He wanted to depose Putin.

If you are aware of that, you know they didn't join because of Biden although he probably said the US would have no objection and why would it.

Regime change in Russia could be a good thing but the idea that Biden thought he could do it is pretty far fetched.

Edited February 26 by Aristides