Poilievre pledges to remove GST from purchase of new homes sold for under $1M - would this work?

[August1991]

I reckon that Trump is the kind of guy to impose a federal VAT.

He changed SALT.

In Canada, we cannot declare local taxes.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, August1991 said:

I reckon that Trump is the kind of guy to impose a federal VAT.

He changed SALT.

In Canada, we cannot declare local taxes.

Yeah but you also thought it wasn't even remotely possible for him to win because the democrats had discovered Kryptonite. And you were wrong about that. So you're probably wrong about this too

[August1991]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah but you also thought it wasn't even remotely possible for him to win because the democrats had discovered Kryptonite. And you were wrong about that. So you're probably wrong about this too

True.

So, what do I know?

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I thought the Dems had a better urban "ground" game in Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta .

 

[August1991]

By all accounts, at the federal vote total, the Dems lost about 14 million voters between 2024 and 2020

IOW, many Dem voters decided not to vote.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, August1991 said:

True.

So, what do I know?

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I thought the Dems had a better urban "ground" game in Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta .

 

And you should have said that and stated that you thought it was quite likely he would lose, or said "the chances of trump beating the gotv teams of the dems in these areas is extremely slim. 

I mean it wouldn't have been an unreasonable position. I myself have commented more than once that elections are won or lost based on the ground teams and the organization to get out the vote.

But what you did is insist with absolute certainty again and again and again it was impossible for trump to win due to kryptonite and despite me asking you numerous times what you meant you just simply repeated that he couldn't win

So now your credibility is kind of in the toilet. As to what you do now, I guess you attempt to change that kind of behavior and hopefully restore your credibility over time. Which is pretty much what anybody ever does when they lose their credibility

But I can at least respect the fact that you realize that your behavior at that point may not have been absolutely appropriate and that your opinion may not have been as absolute as you believed it was at the time. Like most former Geeks I love me a good Redemption Arc same as anyone

[August1991]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

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So now your credibility is kind of in the toilet. As to what you do now, I guess you attempt to change that kind of behavior and hopefully restore your credibility over time. Which is pretty much what anybody ever does when they lose their credibility

But I can at least respect the fact that you realize that your behavior at that point may not have been absolutely appropriate

I was wrong.

[August1991]

CdnFox.

To me, this forum is a place where I stop by, respond to others, post a few comments.

It is a local bar - with better or worse, a bartender with a good memory.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

By all accounts, at the federal vote total, the Dems lost about 14 million voters between 2024 and 2020

IOW, many Dem voters decided not to vote.

To be honest I've never believed that election was stolen, but looking at the numbers closely now and all the democrats that appeared out of nowhere and then suddenly vanished it really makes you think that the democrats in 2020 really did manage to pull off some form of wise scale ballot harvesting or something and it didn't actually represent the number of true voters

Seeing the numbers from the previous elections and the current election and the numbers from that election you really come away with a feeling that maybe trump had a point in the end and it was stolen from him. God knows there are ways of could technically happen without it being detected. But 14 million voters don't just vanish off the face of the earth

[ExFlyer]

Axe the Tax Polievere....  

OK, where is the money going to come from to pay off all the promises and the immense debt Canada has?

The Government is not business, it does not earn or make anything to sell so, in order to give something to anyone, it first has to take something from someone or something or some programs.  You already paid for everything you have now. Someone or something has to lose to get any of the promised fulfilled.

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, August1991 said:

I was wrong.

Hard to think poorly of a man who's got the Integrity to admit it.  

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Axe the Tax Polievere....  

OK, where is the money going to come from to pay off all the promises and the immense debt Canada has?

 

But wait a minute, according to Trudeau every cent collected by that taxes giving back to the people! It's the liberals are to be believed then there would be absolutely no crystal consequence to killing the tax, the money stops coming in the money stops going out. Unless they weren't being honest with us 🙄

As far as the savings go the Trudeau government has been wasting money at a level that we have never seen even from his father. Hundreds and hundreds of research projects or committees or paid consultants that produce nothing except for vegan unuseful reports  on the current state of lesbian dance theory. Private contract work for the government is at an all-time high and most of it is work that could be done by the government and is pointless even if it was

He will save billions by just not doing stupid things like the arrive can app or giving hundreds of millions to foreign countries to make sure that they are pursuing inclusivity programs.

Then there's getting rid of crap that isn't part of the government's core responsibility. They'll save close to 2 billion just on the CBC when you add it all up.

You grow the economy. You grow it legitimately instead of trying to fake grow it by importing millions of people. You let the oil and gas industry go back to work. You lower taxes and make it worthwhile for businesses to invest in Canada again. Currently for the first time in our history investment is leaving Canada, reverse that and guess what! Your revenues go up!

Got the number of refugees you're going to allow to about a quarter or less. They cost us a crap ton of money.

Trudeau bloated the civil service to a vastly higher level than it has ever been. Reorganize those guys so that they're more productive, put a hiring freeze on and start relying on automation more. As population growth requires increases then great, slowly increase the service but reduce it to a level where services are provided.

There's even more, but everything I've already mentioned is more than enough to completely wipe out the deficit and on top of it all significantly improve service delivery.

 

You're making this sound hard. It isn't even a little bit hard, justin Trudeau has screwed things up so badly that just stopping doing what he does will go a long way towards fixing the problem.

Trudeau has been stealing money and funneling funds as fast as he can outside of the government through private contracts And has allowed the various departments to bloat their services. Just stopping that probably puts us within about four or five billion dollars of a balanced budget. We can wipe the rest out with the CBC and a few other cuts

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But wait a minute, a......

I cannot tell you how much I do not care what you have to say about my post LOL

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I cannot tell you how much I do not care what you have to say about my post LOL

You.... uhhhh.... you literally just tried to  

Back to your routine of deeply caring about telling people you don't care huh?  LOL 

I understand. I actually answered your question with logic truth facts and information and that has upset you. So instead of Making a rational comment in return or presenting an alternate argument you have chosen to lash out and make an effort to say that you don't want to make an effort.  

Sigh.  Never change dude   You may not be much in the way of intelligent discussion but you're always good for a laugh   

[herbie]

17 hours ago, Aristides said:

It's for the original buyer whether they live in it or not, unless PP has a different plan. 

Well I think that got said without thinking thru implications. For the original buyer that uses it as a principal residence makes more sense for such an initiative ro be popular - that is the current requirement for tax free sales,
The object is to build more houses and make housing more affordable not encourage more flipping ans speculation. The target beneficiaries are the builders and the home owners.

As I said, a temporary removal of GST on lumber, cement ,drywall etc. to boost renos and remodels wouldn't hurt either.
 

Edited November 9, 2024 by herbie

[paradox34]

Unlikely. Supply and demand. From a sellers point of view the buyer can now afford to pay him the GST reduction.

Edited November 9, 2024 by paradox34

[herbie]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So whether there's GST in it or not doesn't make any difference to the buyer.

Oh FFS have you ever bought or sold a home? Own one? An 'extra' $50,000 makes no differebce? That's what i paid for my first home after homeowner grants and incentives and the mortgage was over $1000 at the time!
Why do you think NEW homes are being bought by people who already own a home and are moving up? Why do you think first home buyers aren't looking at NEW homes?
The object is to build MORE homes and make ownership affordable. The program addresses new homes a little, affordability not at all. You can'r build a new home on a lot in major cities for under $1 million. Old ones sell for more than that even if you just want the lot.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, paradox34 said:

Unlikely. Supply and demand. From a sellers point of view the buyer can now afford to pay him the GST reduction.

Plus a profit on top? probably not

And this doesn't incentivize developers to increase the supply of the desired type of housing substantially. They can take a bit of a risk knowing that there's more profit in it for them. So while it won't solve the supply problem by itself it might very well help ease it