Sinwar Dead!

[User]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

What crap?

History. 

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Deal with it, I'm quite certain this starting position will be no different than Israel's negotiators.

What do you mean deal with it? 

As we have pointed out to you many times already... Israel has the power right now to literally carpet bomb everyone in Palestine, line up their tanks, and kill everyone if they wanted to. They don't. They left Gaza to them and look what they did with it? They turned it into a terrorist hell hole. 

If Palestinians had the same power as Israel, they would wipe them all out. 

I am quite certain you are a coward who won't just admit what you support here. 

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

The same homes and lands that Israel claims belongs to them.

Which ones? You have no ability to defend your assertions. You just run from them. 

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's right, there'll be no end to the resistance until Israel stops the subjugation.

Then everyone sits down and starts drawing a new map.

To be sure though I think it's very very unlikely these two things will happen in our lifetimes.

Yet again, you refuse to define what subjugation. 

You have no response if Palestine wants the whole map. 

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

I don't have to, the actions of Zionist terrorists and the IDF they morphed into speak far far more eloquently to what it was about.

Run away!

 

[Moonlight Graham]

On 10/18/2024 at 2:36 PM, eyeball said:

I have no idea. I'm quite certain it'll be decades before anyone reaches the point where borders will be drawn.

There's a better chance the world will still be dealing with this mess centuries from now.

Good job our grandfathers did eh?

1400 years and counting.  Probably not going to get solved peacefully soon.

[cannuck]

7 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1400 years and counting.  Probably not going to get solved peacefully soon.

more like 3,000.  Problem is everyone picks one point in time to define who/what is the "legitimate" nation/creed of Israel/Palestine. It is not a "simple" problem.

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, User said:

History. 

If history is crap then do unto others yadda yadda is all you have left to work with. It doesn't look like that's doing it for you either. Are you a self-loathing Christian by any chance?

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1400 years and counting.  Probably not going to get solved peacefully soon.

It never will if people insist on changing the historical goalposts by thousands of years everytime they need to update their case.

Staying within living memory is the only path forward.

4 hours ago, cannuck said:

more like 3,000.  Problem is everyone picks one point in time to define who/what is the "legitimate" nation/creed of Israel/Palestine. It is not a "simple" problem.

It's not complex at all if you simply put yourself in the other's shoes.

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

If history is crap then do unto others yadda yadda is all you have left to work with. It doesn't look like that's doing it for you either. Are you a self-loathing Christian by any chance?

Yes, your history here is crap. 

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

Yes, your history here is crap. 

It's your history too. You're free to go find any corroborating sources that fact check and refute anything I've posted. I know you won't though because you can't.

I doubt you've even opened so much as one of them knowing how fragile your illusions are.

[User]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's your history too.

Not my history. 

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're free to go find any corroborating sources that fact check and refute anything I've posted. I know you won't though because you can't.

You don't post anything to refute. History!

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Not my history. 

Human history. You're from a different planet or something?

8 minutes ago, User said:

You don't post anything to refute. History!

Probably because it can't be refuted - you haven't posted a single thing that even tries.

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

It never will if people insist on changing the historical goalposts by thousands of years everytime they need to update their case.

Staying within living memory is the only path forward.

Those arent goal posts that's just the fact of how long Muslims, Jews, and Christians have been fighting each other over the Holy Land.

What you're saying is that in 30 years  nobody can complain about their land being stolen.  The indigenous people here as well.  The tactic for Israel would just be to wait it out.  

The solution is a 2-state one as you've said, and obeying international law.  The Arabs didn't accept that and attacked Israel, then Israel used that opportunity to take more than their legal share that was authorized for them.

[Moonlight Graham]

8 hours ago, cannuck said:

more like 3,000.  Problem is everyone picks one point in time to define who/what is the "legitimate" nation/creed of Israel/Palestine. It is not a "simple" problem.

Israel/ Palestine has been fought over by different groups forever.  Around 640 AD is when the Muslim empire conquered the area and more Jews fled.

[User]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Human history. You're from a different planet or something?

Nope, just your history. 

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Probably because it can't be refuted - you haven't posted a single thing that even tries.

History!

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

What you're saying is that in 30 years  nobody can complain about their land being stolen. 

Sure they can given the biggest change since biblical times - secular jurisprudence.

17 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The indigenous people here as well.  

Interestingly enough and despite the talk about colonialism some First Nations look at the creation of Israel based on the several thousand year old biblical history as the gold standard for land claims.

23 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The tactic for Israel would just be to wait it out.

And resign themselves to either permanently subjugating Palestinians or wiping them from the face of the planet?

25 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The solution is a 2-state one as you've said, and obeying international law.  The Arabs didn't accept that and attacked Israel, then Israel used that opportunity to take more than their legal share that was authorized for them.

You're saying international law authorised things like the Deir Yassin Massacre? It's no wonder Arab countries felt compelled to try and stop this disaster from unfolding and spreading.

[eyeball]

33 minutes ago, User said:

Nope, just your history. 

You figure I wrote Einstein's letter?

35 minutes ago, User said:

History!

Your's, where did you post it?

[User]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You figure I wrote Einstein's letter?

Not that history. Your history. 

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Your's, where did you post it?

Its history. 

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, User said:

Not that history.

Meaning Einstein crushed it.

6 minutes ago, User said:

Your history

So what's your story?

[User]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Meaning Einstein crushed it.

Crushed what?

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So what's your story?

Its history bruh!

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Crushed what?

Historical accuracy or are you suggesting Einstein was wrong to use the word terrorists to describe what he witnessed?

[User]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Historical accuracy or are you suggesting Einstein was wrong to use the word terrorists to describe what he witnessed?

What history?

 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, User said:

What history?

Einstein's 

[User]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Einstein's 

And?

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, User said:

And?

I rest Einstein's case. Go refute him.

[User]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I rest Einstein's case. Go refute him.

What case?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

What case?

You didn't read the letter he signed?

[User]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You didn't read the letter he signed?

What letter?