Our Incomes Are Falling Behind: Earnings in the Canadian Provinces and US States, 2010–2022

[CdnFox]

Our Incomes Are Falling Behind: Earnings in the Canadian Provinces and US States, 2010–2022 (fraserinstitute.org)

 

Short version, back in 2014 or so and earlier many of our provinces earned more on average per person than many states.

Now every single state in the united states has a higher average income per person than every single one of our province's.

In other words our very best is still worse than they're very worst.

We've fallen so far behind it's not even funny. And yet our real estate prices and cost of living is higher than the US

It is hard to fully understand exactly how much of a disaster the last 10 years have been for us. And how difficult it would be to catch up and regain what we've lost

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We've fallen so far behind it's not even funny.

So, long story. Trudeau bad, vote Poilievre, lefties suck /thread.

[Legato]

27 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

So, long story. Trudeau bad, vote Poilievre, lefties suck /thread.

Well yes, for once you managed to achieve correctness, although not for the reasons you poorly attempted to convey.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

So, long story. Trudeau bad, vote Poilievre, lefties suck /thread.

Sure Kid 😊

🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿

[herbie]

News from the "institute: that is dedicated to promoting it's own version of Project 2025 since the 1980s.
Never published anything of benefit to the people, only for the benefit of corporations. Sort of like the Taxpayer's Federation, never about your taxes, only about your boss's taxes.

[Old Guy]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Our Incomes Are Falling Behind: Earnings in the Canadian Provinces and US States, 2010–2022 (fraserinstitute.org)

 

Short version, back in 2014 or so and earlier many of our provinces earned more on average per person than many states.

Now every single state in the united states has a higher average income per person than every single one of our province's.

In other words our very best is still worse than they're very worst.

We've fallen so far behind it's not even funny. And yet our real estate prices and cost of living is higher than the US

It is hard to fully understand exactly how much of a disaster the last 10 years have been for us. And how difficult it would be to catch up and regain what we've lost

Just a couple of things worth noting "our incomes" = per/capita income. Median is the income at the exact center. This is a very minor point but as a pensioner I make more than the 30,000 reported for British Columbia. More note worthy is that they use the Canadian dollar.  Again no big deal except that the exchange rate meant that their dollar was worth 1.35 Canadian. I read the article but didn't see how they controlled for this variable. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Old Guy said:

Just a couple of things worth noting "our incomes" = per/capita income. Median is the income at the exact center. This is a very minor point but as a pensioner I make more than the 30,000 reported for British Columbia.

Sure, but if your wife makes less (which is the case with many) then it's an average

At the end of the day the issue you're kind of dancing around and not addressing is that by reasonable comparable metrics we have fallen vastly behind the US. 

And that also means our ability to collect tax incomse and provide services has fallen behind. 

we've never been behind.  We've always had some provinces higher than some states and vice versa.

I don't think most people realize what a catastrophe this is. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think most people realize what a catastrophe this is. 

We get it. Trudeau bad. 🙃

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

We get it. Trudeau bad. 🙃

You don't get it. That's the point. This isn't just about trudeau anymore. Even if trudeau were gone tomorrow the damage done is now insane. 

That's what makes liberal supporters like you so dangerous. You think this is no big deal, just 'trudeau bad' and when he's gone problem over.  Nope -  we have NEVER seen this much damage done to our economy and infrastructure before, not even close. His dad was probably the next worse on the list and even he didn't do this much damage. 

This is horrible. And we're going to need to have a talk about this at some point because it will mean lower services and more poverty and we're going to have to make some decisions about what's important to us if we're ever going to fully recover. 

"trudeau bad" is what losers who want it to be ok to vote for the same people and party again after he's left the party say. 

[Guest]

Just now, CdnFox said:

You don't get it. That's the point. This isn't just about trudeau anymore. Even if trudeau were gone tomorrow the damage done is now insane. 

That's what makes liberal supporters like you so dangerous. You think this is no big deal, just 'trudeau bad' and when he's gone problem over.  Nope -  we have NEVER seen this much damage done to our economy and infrastructure before, not even close. His dad was probably the next worse on the list and even he didn't do this much damage. 

This is horrible. And we're going to need to have a talk about this at some point because it will mean lower services and more poverty and we're going to have to make some decisions about what's important to us if we're ever going to fully recover. 

"trudeau bad" is what losers who want it to be ok to vote for the same people and party again after he's left the party say. 

You're flailing. You know it's true. 🙃

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You're flailing. You know it's true. 🙃

Well that's kind of what you'd expect a emotionally troubled  leftist who keeps losing arguments and who can't refute facts that he doesn't like to say  

Poor little guy   Still emotionally traumatized I see. I'd like to go easier on you but unfortunately facts or facts

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well that's kind of what you'd expect a emotionally troubled  leftist who keeps losing arguments and who can't refute facts that he doesn't like to say  

Poor little guy   Still emotionally traumatized I see. I'd like to go easier on you but unfortunately facts or facts

Flailing. I love it. 🙃

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Flailing. I love it. 🙃

LOL - god li can hear your desperation from here   

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - god li can hear your desperation from here   

Proving my point. 🙃

[August1991]

I ask every Canadian/Quebecer over 65 to compare their monthly CPP/RRQ deposit.

Compare it to a US friend (Social Security).

[August1991]

42 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Proving my point. 🙃

Perspektiv,

The American pension system is more generous than Canada.

Why?

America generates more wealth.

[CdnFox]

57 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Proving my point. 🙃

Your despair was your point?  Ok,  well...   i guess it does then  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Your despair was your point?  Ok,  well...   i guess it does then  

Denial is the first step 🙃

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Denial is the first step 🙃

So it would seem  

[Guest]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So it would seem  

Thats what I said, stupid.

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Thats what I said, stupid.

He is drunk.

[Mathieub]

This is on the public screen. I don't buy this. I don't believe this.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

He is drunk.

I have been sh**faced, high as a kite and could still tie my shoes. Mind you, comical when drunk.

Have a conversation, etc.

He looks like he would struggle with velcro straps on kids sneakers, front clasping bras on the wife with a flat chest, let alone debate when sober with his spell check on and Wikipedia tab open.

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Thats what I said, stupid.

LOL ok ok! Calm down   

I see others have realized you've got  a bit of a sobriety problem going on    

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I have been sh**faced, high as a kite and could still tie my shoes. Mind you, comical when drunk.

Have a conversation, etc.

He looks like he would struggle with velcro straps on kids sneakers, front clasping bras on the wife with a flat chest, let alone debate when sober with his spell check on and Wikipedia tab open.

Kid - you can't even have a conversation when you're sober   You're not that bright but more importantly you're obviously mentally damaged.  You literally deleted 7 pages of posts just because you lost an argument and are now following me around posting little insults that wouldn't manage to offend a 10 year old while i laugh at you  

You're a mess. 

I don't know why all the drunk ones wind up fixating on me.