CdnFox Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 45 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Sweeping statement. Check. No cites. Check. Sounds rather emotional. 🤡 Well it would to you, most cocker spaniels like yourself ARE emotional Good boy! Now fetch my slippers 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Guest Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 58 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well it would to you, most cocker spaniels like yourself ARE emotional Good boy! Now fetch my slippers More emotional emojis 😜 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 54 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: More emotional emojis 😜 Absolutely! I am laughing Like crazy at you, and humor is a type of emotion Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Guest Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: and you can't look directly at it Your spelling skills tell me you're partially blind from doing just that o_O 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Absolutely! I am laughing Like crazy at you, and humor is a type of emotion And he stops using them 🤣 Quote
Hodad Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 13 hours ago, Fluffypants said: This is such BS Biden was President for 9 months before the final pullout and the agreement was contingent on the Taliban behaving itself so Biden could of done of an about face and put more troops into Afghanistan at any time but he didn't, he owns the withdrawal doesn't matter what agreement Trump signed because the Taliban was ignoring it anyway. That's really not true. There was no requirement that the Taliban "behave itself." Trump's deal completely excluded the Afghan government, essentially ceding the country to the Taliban. They agreed not to kill American troops, but it was open season on the Afghan army. He gave the Taliban back 5000 captured fighters, and before the ink was dry the Taliban was attacking and retaking territory. And Trump still withdrew the troops. There was no "behaving themselves." That's how easy it was to give away the gains of 20 years, $2 trillion, and thousands of US lives. By the time Biden took office with just 2500 troops in country and the Taliban storming the country, he had three choices. 1. Try to manage the final 10% of the withdrawal without completely abandoning our Afghan allies to collapse. (Not feasible.) 2. Just put everybody on a plane with no cleanup (and there was a LOT to clean up) 3. Surge Troops back in and try to re-take what Trump gave away. ^^There's really no good choices there. It's like if you walk into a room and someone hands you a flaming bag of shit. Sure, you technically have a choice what you do with it, but no matter what you do it's going to be unpleasant and messy. Biden wanted out--had wanted out for a decade, but he might have managed things differently--and would truly have owned the choice and process--if it weren't 90% done by the Trump administration. Typically, Trump wants all of the credit for "ending" the war in Afghanistan, but none of the blame from the manner in which he did it. Quote
Hodad Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 14 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It happened in 2021, Biden the coward was in power not Trump. Lol. So the Trump administration: 1. Signed the surrender deal excluding the Afghan government. 2. Gave the Taliban back 5000 of their fighters. 3. Withdrew 90% of American troops and let the Taliban start storming back across the country. 4. Gave Biden just 2500 troops and a middle finger And you think that just because Trump lost the election all of that becomes Biden's fault?🙄 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 3 hours ago, Hodad said: That's really not true. There was no requirement that the Taliban "behave itself." Trump's deal completely excluded the Afghan government, essentially ceding the country to the Taliban. They agreed not to kill American troops, but it was open season on the Afghan army. He gave the Taliban back 5000 captured fighters, and before the ink was dry the Taliban was attacking and retaking territory. And Trump still withdrew the troops. There was no "behaving themselves." That's how easy it was to give away the gains of 20 years, $2 trillion, and thousands of US lives. By the time Biden took office with just 2500 troops in country and the Taliban storming the country, he had three choices. 1. Try to manage the final 10% of the withdrawal without completely abandoning our Afghan allies to collapse. (Not feasible.) 2. Just put everybody on a plane with no cleanup (and there was a LOT to clean up) 3. Surge Troops back in and try to re-take what Trump gave away. ^^There's really no good choices there. It's like if you walk into a room and someone hands you a flaming bag of shit. Sure, you technically have a choice what you do with it, but no matter what you do it's going to be unpleasant and messy. Biden wanted out--had wanted out for a decade, but he might have managed things differently--and would truly have owned the choice and process--if it weren't 90% done by the Trump administration. Typically, Trump wants all of the credit for "ending" the war in Afghanistan, but none of the blame from the manner in which he did it. Factually incorrect completely. but you don't care about the facts . 3 hours ago, Hodad said: Lol. So the Trump administration: 1. Signed the surrender deal excluding the Afghan government. 2. Gave the Taliban back 5000 of their fighters. 3. Withdrew 90% of American troops and let the Taliban start storming back across the country. 4. Gave Biden just 2500 troops and a middle finger And you think that just because Trump lost the election all of that becomes Biden's fault?🙄 Again factualy incorrect And biden had 10 months to look at the situation and make changes if necessary. And didn't. I had no idea trump was still running the white house 10 months after he left. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Fluffypants Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Factually incorrect completely. but you don't care about the facts . Again factualy incorrect And biden had 10 months to look at the situation and make changes if necessary. And didn't. I had no idea trump was still running the white house 10 months after he left. Its like a guy blaming her ex boyfriend when he gets a girl pregnant because he didn't pull out right. Edited October 7, 2024 by Fluffypants Quote
Hodad Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: Biden reversed almost all executive orders day one on immigration, started signing bills to spend money like drunken sailors, they were in charge of the Afghanistan but somehow it was all Trumps fault. Trump did all of those things, no? You care to dispute any of those facts? If Trump did those things, how are they not to his credit or his blame? Again, Biden had two choices at that point. Surge 20K or 30K troops back in Afghanistan or try to get the final 2500 out as cleanly as possible. That's it. Those are Biden's choices. I think he made the right choice, but perhaps you think we should have revived the war in Afghanistan? Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 7, 2024 Report Posted October 7, 2024 19 hours ago, Guest said: Sweeping statement. Check. No cites. Check. Sounds rather emotional. 🤡 You should hear Adolf Biden's rants: Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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