The disenfranchising of liberals

[Deluge]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

I would bet my house that that gal in that video has never been a Dem campaign worker, did not volunteer at the DNC, did not attend the DNC lol.

I'd bet your house that she isn't wrong.  

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Are these people even going to vote? That is the problem Democrats have. They probably appear as likely voters because they have voted in the past. But, now, for various reasons, they are disinfranchized from the DNC.

 

This video is telling.

See, this ties right in with Kamala Harris. I can already see her whoring for money over the phone, and money whoring is the only objective of her website; so why should KamelToe f*ck with a silly ol' campaign in the first place?  It's almost as if she's already been assured a victory on November 5. 

Edited August 26, 2024 by Deluge

[Hodad]

Two major problems with this thread:

1. She's disaffected, not disenfranchised.

2. The condition she describes goes back decades.

There is a great episode of This American Life from ten or 15 years ago in which John McCain and Russ Feingold talk about the reality of money in politics, the unpleasant burden of constant, daily fundraising, and why laws to limit donations (bipartisan, no less) are so important.

This was the whole point of McCain-Feingold and why the farking Citizens United decision was such an egregious disaster. Now it's a no-holds-barred arms race that DEMANDS that politicians cater to special and elite monied interests simply to compete and survive. 

For every arsehole who believes that corporations are people and that "money is speech" this is the reality you built. Fark you. 

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Two major problems with this thread:

1. She's disaffected, not disenfranchised.

2. The condition she describes goes back decades.

There is a great episode of This American Life from ten or 15 years ago in which John McCain and Russ Feingold talk about the reality of money in politics, the unpleasant burden of constant, daily fundraising, and why laws to limit donations (bipartisan, no less) are so important.

This was the whole point of McCain-Feingold and why the farking Citizens United decision was such an egregious disaster. Now it's a no-holds-barred arms race that DEMANDS that politicians cater to special and elite monied interests simply to compete and survive. 

For every arsehole who believes that corporations are people and that "money is speech" this is the reality you built. Fark you. 

Oh, so she didn't lose her right to vote for a candidate? So the Ds held a new election?

[CdnFox]

On 8/26/2024 at 8:46 AM, Black Dog said:

I would bet my house that that gal in that video has never been a Dem campaign worker, did not volunteer at the DNC, did not attend the DNC lol.

Denial - not just a river in egypt apparently   

I was thinking false flag when i went to watch it, but there are certain "tells' and body language and tone of voice and mannerisms common with people on the left wing or democratic side of the fence and she has just about all of them. That doesn't mean she's not just a really really good actress but the most likely case is that she's telling the truth 

Further -everything she said is true.  To be honest it's the same for republicans, all politicians at that level spend 90 percent of all of their time working on donations. That's the whole thing. People rise to power in the parties based on their 'pull' and ability to bring in the big bucks.  It is the vast vast vast majority of their work. 

And the DNC right now IS IN FACT full of the most elite of the elite in the world. There's some fascinating polling and research about this - the dems have become the party of the elite and the difference between what people care about and the elite THINK people care about is stunning. 

So she's not saying anything new. 

So probably legit.  But it's nice to see you freak out about it in any case  

[Hodad]

30 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh, so she didn't lose her right to vote for a candidate? So the Ds held a new election?

Not what she talked about, but also, no, she didn't. Assuming she voted in the primary her vote helped send a delegate to the convention. Once Biden dropped out that delegate was free to vote for a new nominee. And in this case most voted for Harris. 

She didn't lose her right to vote. The candidate she supported dropped out. 

[CdnFox]

On 8/26/2024 at 10:01 AM, gatomontes99 said:

Oh...wait...you don't know what disenfranchised is, do you? That makes sense.

 

Would you give him a break, that is like FOUR WHOLE SYLLABLES !!  He's going to need a minute to sound it out, and you know the count above four he needs to take his mitts off. Let's not be jerks here

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

Not what she talked about, but also, no, she didn't. Assuming she voted in the primary her vote helped send a delegate to the convention. Once Biden dropped out that delegate was free to vote for a new nominee. And in this case most voted for Harris. 

She didn't lose her right to vote. The candidate she supported dropped out. 

The candidate of her choice was forced out, and she did not get a right to have a say in the candidate that was selected instead

It might be understandable if this had happened by some accident or unforeseen illness. But despite the fact the party was aware for at least two years that Biden was fading fast they put him forward as the nominee dishonestly thinking they could push him across the finish line I can shoot him if necessary.

[robosmith]

On 8/26/2024 at 8:40 AM, gatomontes99 said:

Are these people even going to vote? That is the problem Democrats have. They probably appear as likely voters because they have voted in the past. But, now, for various reasons, they are disinfranchized from the DNC.

Doesn't matter cause KH is much more popular than Joe right now.

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh, so she didn't lose her right to vote for a candidate? So the Ds held a new election?

Your standard for what you believe is fair means NOTHING.

[gatomontes99]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Doesn't matter cause KH is much more popular than Joe right now.

Your standard for what you believe is fair means NOTHING.

That is a low bar. Hitler is more popular than Joe.

[Deluge]

On 8/26/2024 at 10:05 AM, Black Dog said:

OK I stand corrected. She's not a fake, she's just very, very dumb. I mean she says "throughout my career I've mostly done campaign fundraising" and yet somehow she's surprised that campaign fundraising involves asking people for money? 

Ah, but Harris is different, jackass/dumbass; she's a money grubbing whore - much more so than the typical candidate. Her piece of shit website says it all.  

Edited August 28, 2024 by Deluge

[Black Dog]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

That is a low bar. Hitler is more popular than Joe.

Especially among Republicans.

Edited August 28, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Especially among Republicans.

Hell he was more  popular than biden among the jews