Bush in the polls

[newbie]

This can't be good news for Dubya. Can everybody say lame duck?

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

[Nocrap]

This can't be good news for Dubya. Can everybody say lame duck?

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

Wow. Those numbers are pretty significant. Not a good time to be hitching your wagon to the Bush Mobile.

[scribblet]

He can't run again anyway, the second term is always a lame duck term. Any guess on the contenders will be (repub.) or is it too early?

[Black Dog]

What I'd like to know is: why are Democrats acting like such a bunch of pussies?

"I just don't have enough information," protested Ben Nelson (Neb.). "I really can't right now," John Kerry (Mass.) said as he hurried past a knot of reporters -- an excuse that fell apart when Kerry was forced into an awkward wait as Capitol Police stopped an aide at the magnetometer.

Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) brushed past the press pack, shaking her head and waving her hand over her shoulder. When an errant food cart blocked her entrance to the meeting room, she tried to hide from reporters behind the 4-foot-11 Barbara Mikulski (Md.).

"Ask her after lunch," offered Clinton's spokesman, Philippe Reines. But Clinton, with most of her colleagues, fled the lunch out a back door as if escaping a fire.

In a sense, they were. The cause of so much evasion was S. Res. 398, the resolution proposed Monday by Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) calling for the censure of President Bush for his warrantless wiretapping program. At a time when Democrats had Bush on the ropes over Iraq, the budget and port security, Feingold single-handedly turned the debate back to an issue where Bush has the advantage -- and drove another wedge through his party.

They need to stop listening to Republicans who tell them tehy can't win on national security issues and start fighting. Hell, it's better to fight and lose than slink away like a bunch of spineless cowards.

[Shady]

Oh no, bad polls. Who cares? Real leaders don't govern by polls. As for Republican successors, I like McCain, Romney and Guilliani. I'd like to see a combination of two of the three in the White House in 2008.

[Black Dog]

President Bush's declining image also is reflected in the single-word descriptions people use to describe their impression of the president. Three years ago, positive one-word descriptions of Bush far outnumbered negative ones. Over the past two years, the positive-negative balance has been roughly equal. But the one-word characterizations have turned decidedly negative since last July.

....

The single word most frequently associated with George W. Bush today is "incompetent,"and close behind are two other increasingly mentioned descriptors: "idiot" and "liar."

Oh SNAP!

[sharkman]

Oh no, bad polls. Who cares? Real leaders don't govern by polls. As for Republican successors, I like McCain, Romney and Guilliani. I'd like to see a combination of two of the three in the White House in 2008.

I notice you didn't mention the secret weapon to Bubba's wife, Condi. She's smarter and has been getting a wealth of experience in her various portfolios, unlike Hillary, who was merely married to the boss.

Dear Newbie, what gives? You start 2 threads within 2 minutes last night, both pretty much on the same topic. We get it already, you hate Bush.

[Black Dog]

I notice you didn't mention the secret weapon to Bubba's wife, Condi. She's smarter and has been getting a wealth of experience in her various portfolios, unlike Hillary, who was merely married to the boss.

Condi is also a black woman. The chances of her getting the G.O.P nod in this lifetime is zero.

[Montgomery Burns]

I notice you didn't mention the secret weapon to Bubba's wife, Condi. She's smarter and has been getting a wealth of experience in her various portfolios, unlike Hillary, who was merely married to the boss.

Condi is also a black woman. The chances of her getting the G.O.P nod in this lifetime is zero.

Only because she has said numerous times that she will not run. If she did, she would easily win as she is wildly popular among Republicans, plus there would be the added bonus of seeing the Democrat's inherent racism comming full-out for the public to see.

She went further than any black woman did in Dear Leader's administration (the highest black in his administration was his secretary...although I understand he did not have oral sex with her).

[geoffrey]

I notice you didn't mention the secret weapon to Bubba's wife, Condi. She's smarter and has been getting a wealth of experience in her various portfolios, unlike Hillary, who was merely married to the boss.

Condi is also a black woman. The chances of her getting the G.O.P nod in this lifetime is zero.

I have no doubt Condi would win both the G.O.P. nomination and the Presidency if she wanted it. But apparently, she doesn't.

[Montgomery Burns]

To people like Newbie and Black Dog, great leaders govern by whatever direction the political wind is blowing at the moment. That's why they so greatly admired Dear Leader, who governed by the results of whatever the latest focus group or poll said. Like young children, they demand instant gratification and disdain looking at the big picture. With a constant relentless drumbeat of lies and criticism by the MSM (who don't even pretend to be objective anymore) about Iraq and the economy, Newbie and BD think that Bush should repeal his taxcuts and that he should flee Iraq, like Clinton fled Mogadishu.

Remember the situation that brought Clinton's poll numbers to their apex; he branded Lewinsky as a fanatical stalker who wouldn't leave poor wittle Bill alone (which is why he had to have sex with her in the Oval Office and have hours of phone-sex with her). This brought Clinton's polling numbers to a record high, until his DNA was found on Monica's blue dress.

Others who think long-term are more concerned with what the President actually does, rather than how it is perceived. Deeply inseucre leftists are more concerned what France and the UN think of them.

I had to chuckle at one of BD's polls. It said that Dubya was even more out of touch than the out-of-touch Reagan.

[Black Dog]

To people like Newbie and Black Dog, great leaders govern by whatever direction the political wind is blowing at the moment. That's why they so greatly admired Dear Leader, who governed by the results of whatever the latest focus group or poll said. Like young children, they demand instant gratification and disdain looking at the big picture. With a constant relentless drumbeat of lies and criticism by the MSM (who don't even pretend to be objective anymore) about Iraq and the economy, Newbie and BD think that Bush should repeal his taxcuts and that he should flee Iraq, like Clinton fled Mogadishu.

I think it's pretty funny you're using Dear leader to describe Clinton: I stuck that one on you're love for Bush long ago, but then originallity is not your forte, as evidenced by your stale talking points. You're not even worth mocking anymore.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Uh oh!

Memo to Bush: better pull a "Martin" and change your beliefs mid-term to please the fickle electorate...a la "Same Sex Marriage".

No - Bush stands for his beliefs, like them or not.

[geoffrey]

Uh oh!

Memo to Bush: better pull a "Martin" and change your beliefs mid-term to please the fickle electorate...a la "Same Sex Marriage".

No - Bush stands for his beliefs, like them or not.

Exactly. Be VERY against the war in Iraq... do a completely 180 on same-sex marriage... destroy your record as a sound financial manager by squandering surpluses...

Thats the way to be elected... too bad most Canadians saw the expedicency in Martin's actions...

Even Bush is smarter than that.

[Montgomery Burns]

To people like Newbie and Black Dog, great leaders govern by whatever direction the political wind is blowing at the moment. That's why they so greatly admired Dear Leader, who governed by the results of whatever the latest focus group or poll said. Like young children, they demand instant gratification and disdain looking at the big picture. With a constant relentless drumbeat of lies and criticism by the MSM (who don't even pretend to be objective anymore) about Iraq and the economy, Newbie and BD think that Bush should repeal his taxcuts and that he should flee Iraq, like Clinton fled Mogadishu.

I think it's pretty funny you're using Dear leader to describe Clinton: I stuck that one on you're love for Bush long ago, but then originallity is not your forte, as evidenced by your stale talking points. You're not even worth mocking anymore.

Black Dog is claiming that I am the first person who has referred to Clinton as Dear Leader--the same Clinton that the Clintonbots feverishly defended for committing perjury and obstructing justice.

Can this guy get any more pathetic?

Yes he can. Just take a look at his numerous posts denying that Saddam had any connections to Al Qaeda.

Progressive liberals; they're pure comedy gold.

[Montgomery Burns]

This can't be good news for Dubya. Can everybody say lame duck?

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

Some interesting stuff from the left's favorite columnist in her latest article... Ann Coulter:

Some NY Times headlines discussing polls prior to the 2004 election:

Poll Finds Most in U.S. Support Delaying a War

Opinions Begin to Shift as Public Weighs Costs of War

World's View of U.S. Sours After Iraq War, Poll Finds

Study Finds Europeans Distrustful of U.S. Global Leadership

Despite Polls, Pataki Backs Bush on Iraq All the Way

Poll Finds Hostility Hardening Toward U.S. Policies

Support for War Is Down Sharply, Poll Concludes

Rising Casualties, One Falling Poll

Polls Show Bush's Job-Approval Ratings Sinking

Bush's Rating Falls to Its Lowest Point, New Survey Finds

And yet who won the 2004 election?

Coulter's theory is that Democrats are obsessed with polls because they fantasize that polls prove that the majority of the public supports them, because the majority of the public has only supported Democrats twice at election time since the days of FDR--Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter.

[Riverwind]

Coulter's theory is that Democrats are obsessed with polls because they fantasize that polls prove that the majority of the public supports them, because the majority of the public has only supported Democrats twice at election time since the days of FDR--Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter.

US elections to not produce results that reflect the opinions of the majority of the people since barely 50% of eligible voters actually vote.

[Montgomery Burns]

Coulter's theory is that Democrats are obsessed with polls because they fantasize that polls prove that the majority of the public supports them, because the majority of the public has only supported Democrats twice at election time since the days of FDR--Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter.

US elections to not produce results that reflect the opinions of the majority of the people since barely 50% of eligible voters actually vote.

OMG, is that the best you can come up with?

The majority of voters. Is that better?

[Riverwind]

The majority of voters. Is that better?

That is the entire point. Just because a majority of voters supports the right wing Republicans that does not mean a majority of Americans support them. The polls are an indication of that disconnect. At some level people who don't vote don't have a right to complain but it is pretty arrogant for any politician to assume they have the support of the majority of Americans based on a plurality of votes in an election.

[geoffrey]

The majority of voters. Is that better?

That is the entire point. Just because a majority of voters supports the right wing Republicans that does not mean a majority of Americans support them. The polls are an indication of that disconnect. At some level people who don't vote don't have a right to complain but it is pretty arrogant for any politician to assume they have the support of the majority of Americans based on a plurality of votes in an election.

A national election has a fairly small margin of error representing the population as a whole.

Don't see what either of your claims has to do with the point though...

[Riverwind]

A national election has a fairly small margin of error representing the population as a whole.

Actually, no. A national election is not a random sample since it only counts people who choose to vote - this introduces a bias into the results which means you cannot assume the national election results are the same as the population as a whole.

[Montgomery Burns]

The majority of voters. Is that better?

That is the entire point. Just because a majority of voters supports the right wing Republicans that does not mean a majority of Americans support them. The polls are an indication of that disconnect. At some level people who don't vote don't have a right to complain but it is pretty arrogant for any politician to assume they have the support of the majority of Americans based on a plurality of votes in an election.

So we should do away with elections and just rely on polls--like those exit polls from the 2004 election that had Kerry whipping Dubya?

Good grief. What's your next argument? Reagan was an illegitimate President in the 1984 election (where he won 49 of 50 states) because the entire eligible voting population didn't vote?

OMG, the left is sinking deeper and deeper into the depths of insanity...

[geoffrey]

A national election has a fairly small margin of error representing the population as a whole.

Actually, no. A national election is not a random sample since it only counts people who choose to vote - this introduces a bias into the results which means you cannot assume the national election results are the same as the population as a whole.

I'd rather have less people vote actually. Only those diehards that are into the issues and know what they are voting for.

In that case, they probably wouldn't have elected Bush... or Kerry... or anyone running. If there were a 'all these choices are ridiculous option', it would have got in the high 90's.