Education, Language, Civil, Abortion Rights: State Level?

[August1991]

I am surprised that libertarians do not reference Pierre Trudeau more often.

[August1991]

Bill O'Reilly has a huge ego - like America.

I'm surprised that he (or his staff) has not seen these posts

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Bill O'Reilly and Robert Redford are incapable of understanding themselves

[Fluffypants]

We can't even determine at what point in the pregnancy that it's more than a clump of cells. If you kill a woman at any point in the pregnancy, according to the law its a double homicide. If it is just a clump of cells why does it matter if she was 6 weeks pregnant?

Abortion should never be considered something you do out of convenience there are plenty of people looking to adopt a baby.

At what point do we need to tell people you messed up and now you have to deal with the consequences. We aren't talking about rape here we are talking about a woman who happily opened her legs without birth control and got pregnant.

I feel like like we as a people have gotten so far from immorality that this is considered ok.

Abortion shouldn't be common, people should be careful if they are going to have sex because you can't act surprised when the act that is meant to get you pregnant gets you pregnant. Its super easy not to do, don't stick the pee pee in the va jay jay and no baby. Everything else is fair game.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2024 by Fluffypants

[August1991]

You Americans are now so self-centred that you don't know what your Constitution is.

[August1991]

On 7/28/2024 at 3:15 PM, Michael Hardner said:

I think provinces do that today. Yes. Hard to say, but states rights with regards to abortion seem to fly against having other civil human rights apply nationally. 

We had someone on here who had some institutional legal knowledge with regards to constitutions. I would like to hear from them.

In Canada, provinces decide how children are taught.

Should the federal government get involved?

[Deluge]

On 7/28/2024 at 12:19 PM, August1991 said:

In Canada, we leave education entirely to the provincial level.

Language? We are officially bilingual at the federal level. Our federal government must communicate in both languages - that's all.

Civil rights? Huh? How private people deal with one another? Each province decides this in its own way. A mess.

Abortion? In Canada, we have a federal court decision that means abortion is legal up to birth date.

(Note: Some provinces do not have abortion clinics. Women must travel.)

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I favour State-rignts in a federal regime.

I reckon the US Supreme Court was correct to overthrow Roe-Wade.

 

How it should be here:

Education: National level - math, english, science and history without ANY political agenda attached to any of it (No CRT, LGBTQ or any other politicized bullshit). 

Language: National level - functional English is required. 

Civil rights: National level. 

Abortion: National level, it's illegal just like murder is illegal at the national level. Yes, I disagree with Trump on this one. 

 

[August1991]

On 11/21/2024 at 11:42 AM, Deluge said:

How it should be here:

Education: National level - math, english, science and history without ANY political agenda attached to any of it (No CRT, LGBTQ or any other politicized bullshit). 

Language: National level - functional English is required. 

Civil rights: National level. 

Abortion: National level, it's illegal just like murder is illegal at the national level. Yes, I disagree with Trump on this one. 

 

As a Canadian, I largely disagree.

Education must be local. (Should the State teach? Dunno.)

Civil relations? This is a personal, private matter. If I don't want to get in a taxi cab with a particular person, it is my choice. If a taxi driver doesn't want certain customers, it's his choice. We choose who we marry.

Language? The State must communicate to me in my language.

Abortion? Death penalty? Dunno. I would leave this local.

 

[August1991]

I was recently in the Philippines.

On each island (I managed to go to several), people spoke differently.

Some of them were working on one island but missed the language of their own island.

[TreeBeard]

On 7/28/2024 at 11:28 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I LIKE the post but not sure if I agree.

People who are nationalistic seem to me to favour strong rights for state/province.  I find that to be paradoxical.

This is strictly due to them not getting their way at the federal level.  

[TreeBeard]

On 11/3/2024 at 5:31 PM, August1991 said:

In Canada, provinces decide how children are taught.

Should the federal government get involved?

Yes.  There should be federal standards and accreditation across all education, beyond k-12 and through colleges and universities.   
 

Not having free movement of labour and goods within Canada has been hurting our economy for many decades. 
 

A Norwegian from Oslo doesn’t have to acquire separate accreditation to work in Tromsø.   

[August1991]

6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Yes.  There should be federal standards and accreditation across all education, beyond k-12 and through colleges and universities.   
 

Not having free movement of labour and goods within Canada has been hurting our economy for many decades. 
 

A Norwegian from Oslo doesn’t have to acquire separate accreditation to work in Tromsø.   

Gimme a break. Norway is not Canada.

Heck, Norway is not even part of the EU - the Norwegians even have their own currency.

Norway is more Quebec than than the PQ.

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

Gimme a break. Norway is not Canada.

Heck, Norway is not even part of the EU - the Norwegians even have their own currency.

Norway is more Quebec than than the PQ.

Canada is not America.  
 

America is more Africa than Canada is Germany. 
 

If you think Canada can’t have national accreditation for doctors, then you’re a fool.  

Edited March 1 by TreeBeard

[Deluge]

On 2/2/2025 at 11:37 PM, August1991 said:

As a Canadian, I largely disagree.

Education must be local. (Should the State teach? Dunno.)

Civil relations? This is a personal, private matter. If I don't want to get in a taxi cab with a particular person, it is my choice. If a taxi driver doesn't want certain customers, it's his choice. We choose who we marry.

Language? The State must communicate to me in my language.

Abortion? Death penalty? Dunno. I would leave this local.

 

For education, the US needs to keep the same standards across the board. If you suck at a certain subject then there's room to help the student improve. If the student is exceptional at a subject, then advanced resources need to be provided, like AP courses. 

Civil rights need to be the same across the country. If murder is against the law, then it's against the law in all 50 states. If petty crime is against the law, then it's against the law in all 50 states, and penalties should be the same for all crimes. 

English is the language for the US - learn it, or go home. 

Abortion is equivalent to murder - it should be illegal in all 50 states. 

Death Penalty should be abolished. I'd rather sentence criminals to heavy labor; no more ass sitting - you work and you work your ass off until the end of your sentence. 

[herbie]

On 2/28/2025 at 8:29 PM, TreeBeard said:

f you think Canada can’t have national accreditation for doctors, then you’re a fool.

It will have soon. Very, very soon. For other Health professionals, tradesmen, even truck drivers too. Thank Donny for making us get our shit together, fast.