Kim Campbell = Kamala Harris

[CdnFox]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:54 PM, Radiorum said:

Well, both Kim and Kamala were bright stars that burned out quickly.

Another thing they had in common was the sexism heaped on them. Kim was called unreliable and unstable because she was twice-divorced and had no children. Kamala was pilloried for a relationship, even though it was between two consenting, unattached adults.

And it's this kind of dishonesty that put trump in the white house. Sexism  played zero role with Kim Campbell and her demise.

And if you're going to pretend that it's only females that get questioned about their sexual past then you need to go home until you grow up and read a few books because you're too uneducated for this conversation.

As to Kamala the issue wasn't that she had sex with another person. The issue was that she had sex with her boss and got her promotions based on that and it's fairly evident that that was the case. You kind of left that part out. Would suggests you're not being entirely honest.

And trump's criticisms were perfectly valid. She is a dummy. She has a low IQ. She's fairly stupid. Retarded was probably over the top.

Meanwhile she and her campaign was calling him Hitler, a Nazi, Fascist,  a racist, A dictator, A rapist, and half a dozen other things.

But yeah, calling her a dummy was way worse. 

The only thing those two had in common is that the actual leaders of the party left suddenly close to an election and neither had very much time to put something together.

But at the end of the day Kamala was an absolutely horrible candidate who had everything going for her as far as money and the media and celebrities and she made mistake after mistake and ran a terrible campaign and nose dived into the ground. It's got sweet F all to do with misogyny or name-calling

 

[August1991]

On 11/18/2024 at 1:30 PM, CdnFox said:

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As to Kamala the issue wasn't that she had sex with another person. The issue was that she had sex with her boss and got her promotions based on that and it's fairly evident that that was the case. You kind of left that part out. Would suggests you're not being entirely honest.

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IOW, she was lazy. Like Kim Campbell.

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BTW, Kim Campbell became a Consul-General in Los Angeles.

[SpankyMcFarland]

It’s hard to compare a multi-party system with America’s bleak contests between just two parties but I think it’s fair to say that Harris did better than Campbell. However, FPTP and a split on the right made Campbell’s performance look worse than it was. 

[Aristides]

7 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

It’s hard to compare a multi-party system with America’s bleak contests between just two parties but I think it’s fair to say that Harris did better than Campbell. However, FPTP and a split on the right made Campbell’s performance look worse than it was. 

Yes the right split between Conservative and Reform handing the Liberals an easy win.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Yes the right split between Conservative and Reform handing the Liberals an easy win.

Well it split for a reason and your assumption is that if it wasn't for the reform that those people would have voted conservative and evidence historically suggests otherwise

Consider for example the Ontario election where both the liberals and the NDP put up bad candidates kind of last minute and Doug Ford one with an overwhelming majority. It wasn't that the polls were saying that that many people liked ford. The issue was that with nowhere else to go the liberal and NDP voters stayed home.

There's no real doubt that the reform made it easy for some conservatives to leave but people were already beyond pissed at the PC party. And Kim Campbell was polling higher than Chretien right at the start of the election.

No matter what election you're talking about there are always going to be subtle differences but again and again in history we see a repeating pattern. There's ignatieff for example who was brought in last minute  to be the white night who saved the liberals, and got slaughtered. 

The comparables are there.  Unless Carney has some magic beans that nobody knows about history says he'll do badly