gatomontes99 Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 Quote The concern from some of the nation’s Democratic governors were aired on a call Monday organized by Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, one of the sources said. The call was attended by governors only. On the call, some of the governors expressed surprise that they had not heard from Biden himself about his debate performance. There was a strong sentiment on the call that they needed to hear from Biden directly on the matter. There was also some discussion of having Vice President Kamala Harris address them. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/democratic-governors-joe-biden/ Are they floating the idea of ousting Joe? She would be protocol to a 25A removal from office. Oh, she might be up to it. She would be, simultaneously, the first woman and first black POTUS. She would love that. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Are they floating the idea of ousting Joe? She would be protocol to a 25A removal from office. Oh, she might be up to it. She would be, simultaneously, the first woman and first black POTUS. She would love that. You obviously have NO IDEA how the 25A works. Even if the CABINET voted to remove Joe, he's STILL ON THE BALLOT for the general unless HE DECIDES to relinquish his delegates. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 2, 2024 Author Report Posted July 2, 2024 42 minutes ago, robosmith said: You obviously have NO IDEA how the 25A works. Even if the CABINET voted to remove Joe, he's STILL ON THE BALLOT for the general unless HE DECIDES to relinquish his delegates. Do you think the D party wouldn't find a way to swap candidates? Of course they would. It's their party. They can rig the primary all they want. They aren't regulated. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CdnFox Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Are they floating the idea of ousting Joe? She would be protocol to a 25A removal from office. Oh, she might be up to it. She would be, simultaneously, the first woman and first black POTUS. She would love that. Its their only choice if they want to get rid of joe, but i don't think she's any more electable. I"m sure she'd love the title of first fem president tho Even if it is for a little while. I think it's more likely that they're looking at how to save their own skin and distance themselves from the race. They could as a group disavow biden and demand he step down, even if he doesn't they look like they did the right thing to the voters. Or they could try selling the idea that considering the federal election is lost is critical for voters to put them in power so that the house and senate are stacked against trump to prevent him from doing anything crazy. That's actually not a bad play They're probably discussing that and other alternatives because they know that there's a good chance that democrat voters are simply just not going to come out and vote. They need to turn the tables or they could wind up losing their jobs Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Do you think the D party wouldn't find a way to swap candidates? Of course they would. It's their party. They can rig the primary all they want. They aren't regulated. They are regulated. They still have to live up to their charter and rules. If they don't then it's lawsuit city. And they will lose if they break their own rules. It's not utterly impossible for them to find a way but it is extremely unlikely. For a large number of reasons. Which is what I'm sure a lot of the panicked people are being told right now. It's him or harris. And that will be his choice to make. They're probably being told that they better focus on supporting Biden as much as possible because he's what they've got. Senators and congressmen will be scrambling like hell to make sure they don't go down with the ship. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Do you think the D party wouldn't find a way to swap candidates? Of course they would. It's their party. They can rig the primary all they want. They aren't regulated. They have rules which don't allow stealing delegates won in the primary. Quote There is no evidence Biden is willing to end his campaign. And it would be nearly impossible for Democrats to replace him unless he chooses to step aside. Why it would be tough for Democrats to replace Joe Biden AP News https://apnews.com › article › biden-replacement-demo... 4 days ago — Other potential Democratic candidates would also face challenges. In addition to the vice president, others that had endorsed Biden in 2024 ... Edited July 3, 2024 by robosmith Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Posted July 3, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: They have rules which don't allow stealing delegates won in the primary. Why it would be tough for Democrats to replace Joe Biden AP News https://apnews.com › article › biden-replacement-demo... 4 days ago — Other potential Democratic candidates would also face challenges. In addition to the vice president, others that had endorsed Biden in 2024 ... Dems don't care about rules. Remember what they did to Bernie? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Dems don't care about rules. Remember what they did to Bernie? This is true. Demoncrats have already shown their willingness to cheat. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Dems don't care about rules. Remember what they did to Bernie? Bernie accepted that. They did a deal. So they didn't really break their rules in an overt way. It's not like he won the nomination and they said no you can't. But if they break their rules here there are a crap ton of very wealthy people who will be very angry and will probably sue. And they will win. So if they break their rules to pick someone else for president all of a sudden there could be court challenges in the middle of an election saying that they had no right to do that. And they would very likely win a court order not allowing that person to run until the matter is settled by the courts which means at the very least they're going to miss most of their campaign and very likely would not be allowed to run in the end. Obviously at this stage of the game that would be death. The basically they would be running no candidate. What they could theoretically do is pressure biden to step down and let Kamala take over, or pull some other trickery with his permission that allowed his delegates to be free to vote for someone else and then hope that they all vote for the same person. But Jill has made it clear she will not accept that. And she's calling the shots right now not him and they are damn near out of time. So barring his death or the like it looks like they'll be going with Joe. They will do what they can to try and find a way to reverse this, and they will try and win the house and the senate to prevent trump from being able to do anything. That's really their only game plan right now Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 Well the new polls are out and... https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/ Trump is pulling further ahead. Lol...enjoy the election. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Well the new polls are out and... https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/ Trump is pulling further ahead. Lol...enjoy the election. Owie. All that work biden did to try to close that gap with his big announcments and state of the union style address has disappeared. But i don't think that chart shows the real damage. While a relatively small number of people have changed their posiiton and will now support trump, i think there are two much bigger issues: 1 democrat voter turn out is going to be utter crap. While trump voters will be motivated to get out and vote like crazy. i think dem voters may just decide to sit this one out. And even a small difference there can make a massive impact. If Biden and trump are neck and neck in the polls but 70 percent of trumps' voters get out and 50 percent of biden's do...... 2. Donations are now going to be at a stand still. The Biden camp made a big deal of the fact they were outfundraising trump. They felt that was their ace in the hole, they would have the money for a very strong ad campaign which would mean biden woudln't have to be in public as much, and they could overwhelm trump on that score and have a massive campaign at the end. NOW - trump just brought in a TONNE of money thanks to the conviction, and biden's donations are about to come to a dead stop. Trump is about to steal the advantage biden thought he had. So how does biden recover from no money? Usually you go out in public and sway voters directly. That's probably not a good idea given his current state. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
User Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 16 hours ago, robosmith said: You obviously have NO IDEA how the 25A works. Even if the CABINET voted to remove Joe, he's STILL ON THE BALLOT for the general unless HE DECIDES to relinquish his delegates. LOL, because it is going to go real well for him as a Candidate for President after having just been removed by the 25th Amendment from being the current President? Quote
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