Gov. Greg Abbott pardons Daniel Perry, veteran who murdered police brutality protester in 2020

[Hodad]

26 minutes ago, User said:

Yes, by illegally protesting in the streets. They certainly did stop him. It is a road, meant for driving on. He was forced to stop because those people illegally taking over the streets were in his way. 

There is some video, and you can see after he comes to a stop, many in the crowd start running to swarm the vehicle, including Foster, who approaches him with a gun. 

Had they simply walked on past him and left him be, none of this would have ever happened. Had Foster simply walked on by and let him be, none of this would have ever happened. 

These are facts, trying to insult me doesn't make your case any better. 

 

As always, you just double down. 

If only the crowd hadn't reacted to some jackass driving into them, none of this would have happened! 

Jeebus. Shameless.

[Hodad]

31 minutes ago, User said:

No, that is not accurate to what was claimed at all. Perry did not claim he merely had a gun, he claimed that he was raising the gun towards him, and that is when he feared for his life. You do not have to wait for someone to actually be shooting you before you defend yourself. 

This is simply a matter of fact for what Perry perceived and claimed, which is more than he simply had a rifle on a sling. 

 

Of course you are anti-gun. That has been your schtick with me for the last few days now. 

Who are you to judge what other's feelings are regarding their sincere thoughts and prayers? 

Not a single witness said that Foster raised the gun. A vivid imagination is not a license to kill. Hence, Perry was convicted. Twelve Texans--Texans FFS--rejected his utterly absurd self defense claim and recognized that he was guilty beyond even a reasonable doubt. No doubt. 

But you will defend the indefensible because the murderer shot a protester with whom you have political differences.

[User]

32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The people expressing those phoney thoughts and prayers won't lift a finger to prevent it happening again, and again, and again. That's why they are phoney.

Not true at all. There are numerous measures proposed to help stop and prevent these things from happening. Things like allowing teachers and others to be armed, better security, SRO's...

Those on the political left here think putting up no gun signs and their wishful thinking and happy thoughts about gun free zones will protect kids. 

[User]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Not a single witness said that Foster raised the gun. A vivid imagination is not a license to kill. Hence, Perry was convicted. Twelve Texans--Texans FFS--rejected his utterly absurd self defense claim and recognized that he was guilty beyond even a reasonable doubt. No doubt. 

But you will defend the indefensible because the murderer shot a protester with whom you have political differences.

Daniel Perry did. I clearly stated that and added more context here. There were indeed expert witnesses that evaluated how Foster was carrying the weapon as well. 

I am merely here to present factual information about what happened. You guys on the left support this lawlessness in the streets, these are the kinds of consequences that follow. I say, don't support lawlessness in the streets. That is my position. 

21 minutes ago, Hodad said:

As always, you just double down. 

If only the crowd hadn't reacted to some jackass driving into them, none of this would have happened! 

Jeebus. Shameless.

Driving into them?

Who was hit? Who was injured? No one. 

He came to a stop. People then rushed his car. Including Foster with a firearm. 

I am not doubling down on anything more than pointing out the facts here. 

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, User said:

Not true at all. There are numerous measures proposed to help stop and prevent these things from happening. Things like allowing teachers and others to be armed, better security, SRO's...

Those on the political left here think putting up no gun signs and their wishful thinking and happy thoughts about gun free zones will protect kids. 

Arming your teachers and turning your schools into fortresses. So 3rd world. You should be ashamed.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Arming your teachers and turning your schools into fortresses. So 3rd world. You should be ashamed.

So now you want to watch the little kids die and do nothing. LOL

Remember, you just tried to claim folks had nothing but thoughts and prayers... 

[Aristides]

Just now, User said:

So now you want to watch the little kids die and do nothing. LOL

Remember, you just tried to claim folks had nothing but thoughts and prayers... 

Obviously you do. Almost all the guns used in school massacres were bought legally. As always, your solution is more guns.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Obviously you do. Almost all the guns used in school massacres were bought legally. As always, your solution is more guns.

And here you just said you were not anti-gun...

No, not almost all of the guns are bought legally by the shooters. 

[Aristides]

16 minutes ago, User said:

And here you just said you were not anti-gun...

No, not almost all of the guns are bought legally by the shooters. 

I'm not. I believe in not letting people who shouldn't have guns not  being able to buy them.

Actually almost all of them were bought legally by the shooters or another family member.

Edited May 25, 2024 by Aristides

[User]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'm not. I believe in not letting people who shouldn't have guns not  being able to buy them.

Actually almost all of them were bought legally by the shooters or another family member.

If you are not anti-gun, why are you here being anti-gun against allowing people to lawfully carry guns for their self defense to protect kids? To have law enforcement with guns to protect kids?

 

[reason10]

On 5/23/2024 at 6:43 PM, robosmith said:

Gov. Greg Abbott pardons Daniel Perry, veteran who murdered police brutality protester in 2020

Completely LEGAL and wholly UNETHICAL. So Trumpian. 🤮
 

As usual, you are WRONG.

That animal Perry shot was part of a mob of animals engaging in car jacking. And that animal was pointing an  AR15 (the ASSAULT RIFLE YOU NAZIS HATE WORSE THAN JOB APPLICATIONS) AT Perry And Perry LEGALLY AND CONSTITUTIONALLY defended his life.

Maybe those BURN LOOT MURDER animals shouldn't have attacked his car. That animal got what he deserved.

34 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Obviously you do. Almost all the guns used in school massacres were bought legally. As always, your solution is more guns.

And your solution is NAZI GERMANY NO GUNS.

Seig Heil.

[reason10]

40 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Arming your teachers and turning your schools into fortresses. So 3rd world. You should be ashamed.

Third world? Did you even make it to the THIRD GRADE?

Most people in third world countries are starving and illiterate because THEY CAN'T AFFORD SCHOOLS.

Personally, I don't believe teachers should have to do the job of the resource officers and defend their classes with deadly force. But that should be THEIR CHOICE, not the choice of the left wing Nazi Party.

Here's an original idea: (Gee, there are already most Florida schools doing this.) Metal detectors at every entrance. I as a sub have to pass through them. Maybe having them would have saved those kids at Margery Stone Douglas High School (since the Sheriff there was a puuussy and wouldn't allow his deputies to do their jobs.)

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, User said:

If you are not anti-gun, why are you here being anti-gun against allowing people to lawfully carry guns for their self defense to protect kids? To have law enforcement with guns to protect kids?

 

Your knee jerk reaction to anyone who favours sensible gun laws is to label them anti gun. Easy peasy, no thinking required. Your so called background checks are a joke. More people packing guns will not make kids safer. Instead, maybe  you should ask yourself how your country sank so low as to think you need armed teachers and fortified schools to keep kids safe. 

Edited May 25, 2024 by Aristides

[User]

Just now, Aristides said:

Your knee jerk reaction to anyone who favours sensible gun laws is to label them anti gun. Easy peasy, no thinking required. More people packing guns will not make kids safer. Instead, maybe  you should ask yourself how your country sank so low as to think you need armed teachers and fortified schools to keep kids safe. 

You were the one pushing the simpleton only thoughts and prayers lie. Easy peasy, no thinking required. I brought up several measures folks do indeed support to help keep kids safe and then your knee jerk reaction was to be anti-gun against any of them. 

You say you are not anti-gun, but here you are again saying more people packing guns will not make kids safer and then proceed to mock our gun laws further... 

So, what is it you support then, to make kids safe in schools? 

[Aristides]

4 hours ago, User said:

You were the one pushing the simpleton only thoughts and prayers lie. Easy peasy, no thinking required. I brought up several measures folks do indeed support to help keep kids safe and then your knee jerk reaction was to be anti-gun against any of them. 

You say you are not anti-gun, but here you are again saying more people packing guns will not make kids safer and then proceed to mock our gun laws further... 

So, what is it you support then, to make kids safe in schools? 

Thoughts and prayers mean nothing if they aren't backed up by actions. 

I don't mock  your gun laws, I mock the lack of them and your wild west mentality. 

[Hodad]

5 hours ago, User said:

Daniel Perry did. I clearly stated that and added more context here. There were indeed expert witnesses that evaluated how Foster was carrying the weapon as well. 

I am merely here to present factual information about what happened. You guys on the left support this lawlessness in the streets, these are the kinds of consequences that follow. I say, don't support lawlessness in the streets. That is my position. 

Driving into them?

Who was hit? Who was injured? No one. 

He came to a stop. People then rushed his car. Including Foster with a firearm. 

I am not doubling down on anything more than pointing out the facts here. 

Oh, good now you're pretending that one cannot drive into a crowd without actually striking someone. Which is just silly. 

According to witnesses he nearly struck several people, including a protester in a wheelchair who wasn't able to move as quickly. 

You are not pointing out "facts." Nearly everything you've said about this incident has been false, and all in the service of excusing what, by all reasonable appearances, was a deliberate act. Perry fantasized about it, researched it, looked for the opportunity, and finally made it happen in the exact manner he described. 

You want to throw stones about "lawlessness" being the cause, blaming protesters, when Perry was lawless at every step, running the red light, texting while driving (by his telling), driving into a crowd of pedestrians, and ultimately escalating to an illegal shooting.

Your "facts" are fictions woven to defend the indefensible.

[User]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Thoughts and prayers mean nothing if they aren't backed up by actions. 

I don't mock  your gun laws, I mock the lack of them and your wild west mentality. 

I literally just gave you 3 things beyond thoughts and prayers. You decryed them. Now you are back to the same lame comment I have already defeated. 

Again... I asked you what your solution is then. What actions? 

You claim to not be anti-gun, so this should be really interesting to see what your solutions are here that are not anti-gun. 

[User]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Oh, good now you're pretending that one cannot drive into a crowd without actually striking someone. Which is just silly. 

According to witnesses he nearly struck several people, including a protester in a wheelchair who wasn't able to move as quickly. 

No, I am being factual. When you keep saying he drove into the crowd, it is important to point out that doesn't mean he ran into anyone physically. Even now, you say he "nearly" struck people. 

He either did or he did not. I am not aware of anyone being hit. Are you?

 

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

You are not pointing out "facts." Nearly everything you've said about this incident has been false, and all in the service of excusing what, by all reasonable appearances, was a deliberate act. Perry fantasized about it, researched it, looked for the opportunity, and finally made it happen in the exact manner he described. 

Sigh... 

Here you go again, you get to towards the end of a discussion with me, where we have said numerous things, and now you make some vague claim about dishonesty. No, that is a dishonest game you play. If I said something dishonest, point out exactly what it was. 

What exactly did Perry fantasize about?

What exactly did he research?

Lets see you actually back up this nonsense. 

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

You want to throw stones about "lawlessness" being the cause, blaming protesters, when Perry was lawless at every step, running the red light, texting while driving (by his telling), driving into a crowd of pedestrians, and ultimately escalating to an illegal shooting.

LOL, now you are comparing the lawlessness of taking over the streets with running a red light? They don't make eye rolls big enough. 

Again, he did not drive into anyone. 

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Your "facts" are fictions woven to defend the indefensible.

Which facts were fictions? Which one? Name them. Enough of your games. 

[robosmith]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Welcome to Texas.

Foster had no business rushing Perry's car with a gun.

A Terrorist got shot.

Good fcking riddance. 

Too bad there's NO EVIDENCE he was a "terrorist."

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, reason10 said:

As usual, you are WRONG.

That animal Perry shot was part of a mob of animals engaging in car jacking. And that animal was pointing an  AR15 (the ASSAULT RIFLE YOU NAZIS HATE WORSE THAN JOB APPLICATIONS) AT Perry And Perry LEGALLY AND CONSTITUTIONALLY defended his life.

Not according to the jury who convicted him. But the governor can pardon anyone including MURDERERS.

Of course, he wouldn't do that if Texas voters held him accountable for his blatantly unethical behavior.

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Too bad there's NO EVIDENCE he was a "terrorist."

They are not only terrorists, but they are a scam. The leaders live in absolute luxury at the expense of the poor.

They are liars and terrorists.!

Deal with it Tweenkie.

[reason10]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Not according to the jury who convicted him. But the governor can pardon anyone including MURDERERS.

Of course, he wouldn't do that if Texas voters held him accountable for his blatantly unethical behavior.

The jury did not follow the evidence. The Governor did the right thing.

In Texas, individuals have the right to defend themselves from animals. Deadly force is authorized.

Maybe that BLM animal should have thought twice before bringing a RIFLE to a felonious CAR JACKING.

[Aristides]

16 hours ago, User said:

I literally just gave you 3 things beyond thoughts and prayers. You decryed them. Now you are back to the same lame comment I have already defeated. 

Again... I asked you what your solution is then. What actions? 

You claim to not be anti-gun, so this should be really interesting to see what your solutions are here that are not anti-gun. 

Yes. Arm teachers and turn your schools into fortresses, make your kids go through active shooter drills and be  afraid to go to school just so you don't have to change anything.

For starters.

You could do real background checks instead of the ridiculous window dressing you have now.

Anyone who turns up armed at a protest or any other demonstration should be immediately arrested, their firearms confiscated and serve a jail sentence. 

Unfortunately the the gun lobby is so strong in the US that you will continue to rack up an insane body count for a so called developed country. 

Your cowboy mentality is your greatest enemy, not the perceived threats you keep dragging up.

 

[User]

30 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Yes. Arm teachers and turn your schools into fortresses, make your kids go through active shooter drills and be  afraid to go to school just so you don't have to change anything.

Those are changes. Do you not get it? You claim to not be anti-gun. So... that means there will be gun ownership. There are guns. You can't simply pretend like you can somehow stop all people from ever being bad or doing bad things, not even the other countries can do this. 

Protecting children is part of a layered strategy to... protect children. Those are changes. 

Do you think putting a no gun sign on the door and declaring them gun free zones stops bad people from doing bad things? If so... then you are the one who is far worse than anyone saying "thoughts and prayers" 

 

33 minutes ago, Aristides said:

For starters.

You could do real background checks instead of the ridiculous window dressing you have now.

What does this mean? What is a real background check?

33 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Unfortunately the the gun lobby is so strong in the US that you will continue to rack up an insane body count for a so called developed country. 

Your cowboy mentality is your greatest enemy, not the perceived threats you keep dragging up.

 

Here you go again... I thought you were not anti-gun, so what is your issue with a lawful industry that makes guns?

34 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Anyone who turns up armed at a protest or any other demonstration should be immediately arrested, their firearms confiscated and serve a jail sentence. 

Here you go again, I thought you were not anti-gun, so now you oppose having guns for self-defense?

 

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, User said:

Those are changes. Do you not get it? You claim to not be anti-gun. So... that means there will be gun ownership. There are guns. You can't simply pretend like you can somehow stop all people from ever being bad or doing bad things, not even the other countries can do this. 

Protecting children is part of a layered strategy to... protect children. Those are changes. 

 

It isn't about protecting children, it's about protecting everyones ability to wander around armed.

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Do you think putting a no gun sign on the door and declaring them gun free zones stops bad people from doing bad things? If so... then you are the one who is far worse than anyone saying "thoughts and prayers" 

No, I think doing nothing about who gets guns is something the gun crowd can't accept
 

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What does this mean? What is a real background check?

Your federal background check is just a check of a database. Unless a person has been convicted of a federal crime, it depends on data provided by states. If a state doesn't provide the info, it isn't in the data base.

If a response isn't received within three days, a dealer can sell the gun, even if it turns out the buyer was a budding Manson.

The background check only applies to dealers, there is no record or checks of private sales. 

Your background checks are nothing but window dressing to make it look like something is being done.

 

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Here you go again... I thought you were not anti-gun, so what is your issue with a lawful industry that makes guns?

Here you go again, I thought you were not anti-gun, so now you oppose having guns for self-defense?

 

Not anti gun, just pro sanity.