As Europe bans puberty blockers, Canada doubles down on transgender treatments for kids

[CdnFox]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/europe-canada-puberty-blockers-for-kids

But others say what little evidence exists points to using caution and restricting treatments for minors, and that Canada’s medical leaders are ignoring shifting trends in gender-affirming care.
England last week announced children with gender dysphoria would no longer be routinely prescribed puberty suppressing hormones at publicly funded gender clinics, after the country’s National Health Service concluded insufficient evidence exists to support the safety of puberty blockers. The ban is in response to public consultations held on an interim policy announced last June.

“Medical associations from coast to coast are deeply concerned abut any government proposal that would restrict access to evidence-based medical care for patients, including the transgender population,” leaders of the Canadian Medical Association, Ontario Medical Association and nine other provincial/territorial medical associations wrote.

Several people commented that Canada appears at loggerheads with European counterparts. Norway, Sweden and Finland are also taking more conservative approaches to puberty blockers after conducting their own literature reviews. “So, the NHS in the U.K. is wrong and doesn’t make decisions based on science. Got it,” one commentator remarked.

 

 

[CdnFox]

Canada - "WE NEED TO FOLLOW EVIDENCE-BASED DECISIONS!!!"

all of europe - "the evidence is that it may not be safe".

Canada - "WELL - not THAT evidence...."

it's sad to see our doctors putting their ideology ahead of their patients and the evidence in Canada. 

[Zeitgeist]

In Canada, presenting scientific evidence that gender activists and their supporters in government and in courts don’t like can lead to charges and job loss.  People in professions can be decertified by their colleges for not giving into pseudoscientific pressures and policies.  

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[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

In Canada, presenting scientific evidence that gender activists and their supporters in government and in courts don’t like can lead to charges and job loss.  People in professions can be decertified by their colleges for not giving into pseudoscientific pressures and policies.  

True. You can't be a doctor or a psychologist and just worry about the facts in this country anymore.

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

True. You can't be a doctor or a psychologist and just worry about the facts in this country anymore.

Yup

And the next Marxist theft and redistribution event is April 1, the massive carbon tax hike.  It’s going to hurt so many people.

This next round of Marxist fleecing may really be the final nail in the coffin for the climate fascists.  One only has to drive across the border to see the difference in cost, even after exchanging our weak currency that was worth more than the US dollar under Harper.

I’d like to believe that Poilievre can clean up this mess, but the mess is so wide and deep that it’s structural.

Canada has become an expensive, overtaxing, less free country, with a bloated overbearing government that has become an international laughingstock.  Not even American Democrats think we’re doing it right.

Canadians have been fed such a steady diet of nonsense about racism and colonialism and the scary Americans in a country, Canada, that has redistributed more wealth from those who earn it to those who don’t than just about any country that still calls itself capitalist.

Over-regulated, expensive, with an overbearing government of control freaks who want to take more of your money to prop themselves up and create more schemes that benefit the few at the expense of the majority. Your ability to question and oppose this ongoing disaster is hampered by greater restrictions on speech.

Even the socialist healthcare that we used to take pride in has declined and resorts to increased assisted suicide and enabling hard drug use. That which is unhealthy is supported, such as suicide, drug use, and rampant infertility schemes (free birth control and unlimited abortion).  Meanwhile people can’t afford to buy homes or have kids because taxes and cost of living have skyrocketed.

Honestly if I could move my kids to the US I would.  I hold a British passport, but they’re facing many similar problems.

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[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yup

And the next Marxist theft and redistribution event is April 1, the massive carbon tax hike.  It’s going to hurt so many people.

Yeah.  And a lot of people who've finally managed to stay afloat under the inflation and interest rate cuts will once again feel a huge pinch. I think it's going up like 25 cents a litre for gas? That's an extra 10 bucks at the pump even for an average fuel efficient vehicle.

Trudeau's popularity will once again take a hit but i don't think he gives a crap at this point.

 

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I’d like to believe that Poilievre can clean up this mess, but the mess is so wide and deep that it’s structural.

What you mean by clean up. I have no doubt at all that he can make things better than they are today. That actually requires next to no effort. Repeal a bunch of laws like Trudeau's 2017 bail law and pass a few crime bills and crime will improve. Reduced immigration by 30 to 50% and you'll see an improvement in rental and housing prices, at least there won't be the same increases. Stop wasteful and stupid spending like the arrive can app and such and kill the CBC and we could stop the flow of investment money out of the country and start to work on our GDP per capita.

but as you say - the damage is deep. While things can get better there's little chance PP can actually bring canada back to the way it was in 2 terms, which is what the average prime minister gets. It will take years.

And of course the concern is that as has happened in the past, as soon as things start to get better and the pressure is off people and pp's been in for 8 years the libs will spread their lies again and sucker the stupid voters in ontario and quebec into putting them back into power and we go through this whole mess again.

PP is a smart campaigner - i'm hoping he'll play the game well enough to get three terms at least. In three terms it's possible to undo much of the damage and for the wounds to finish healing within 20 -25 years.

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah.  And a lot of people who've finally managed to stay afloat under the inflation and interest rate cuts will once again feel a huge pinch. I think it's going up like 25 cents a litre for gas? That's an extra 10 bucks at the pump even for an average fuel efficient vehicle.

Trudeau's popularity will once again take a hit but i don't think he gives a crap at this point.

 

What you mean by clean up. I have no doubt at all that he can make things better than they are today. That actually requires next to no effort. Repeal a bunch of laws like Trudeau's 2017 bail law and pass a few crime bills and crime will improve. Reduced immigration by 30 to 50% and you'll see an improvement in rental and housing prices, at least there won't be the same increases. Stop wasteful and stupid spending like the arrive can app and such and kill the CBC and we could stop the flow of investment money out of the country and start to work on our GDP per capita.

but as you say - the damage is deep. While things can get better there's little chance PP can actually bring canada back to the way it was in 2 terms, which is what the average prime minister gets. It will take years.

And of course the concern is that as has happened in the past, as soon as things start to get better and the pressure is off people and pp's been in for 8 years the libs will spread their lies again and sucker the stupid voters in ontario and quebec into putting them back into power and we go through this whole mess again.

PP is a smart campaigner - i'm hoping he'll play the game well enough to get three terms at least. In three terms it's possible to undo much of the damage and for the wounds to finish healing within 20 -25 years.

I’ve never been one to look back to “the good ol’ days” because you could always point to life in the past being harder or worse overall for most people, but I honestly think life was better in Canada 10 years ago than it is today.  

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[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’ve never been one to look back to “the good ol’ days” because you could always point to life in the past being harder or worse overall for most people, but I honestly think life was better in Canada 10 years ago than it is today.  

There's a lot of people saying that right now. Ten years ago life was affordable and we didn't hate each other. 

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There's a lot of people saying that right now. Ten years ago life was affordable and we didn't hate each other. 

And look what comes out as we talked about the feeling that Canada has declined:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-slips-to-15th-place-in-annual-world-happiness-report-1.6815318?autoPlay=true

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

And look what comes out as we talked about the feeling that Canada has declined:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-slips-to-15th-place-in-annual-world-happiness-report-1.6815318?autoPlay=true

Down from 13th place last year, Canada now sits behind countries like Costa Rica, Kuwait and Austria.

Kuwait beat us!??!  Man that stings.

Yeah - and as expected its the younger people who are suffering.

But hey - health canada says if we start cutting off their body parts and chemically castrating them they'll be happy again! 

Confusing kids on gender, inflicting woke politics and spending money to the point where inflation is rampant sure has made people's lives better right?

[Zeitgeist]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Down from 13th place last year, Canada now sits behind countries like Costa Rica, Kuwait and Austria.

Kuwait beat us!??!  Man that stings.

Yeah - and as expected its the younger people who are suffering.

But hey - health canada says if we start cutting off their body parts and chemically castrating them they'll be happy again! 

Confusing kids on gender, inflicting woke politics and spending money to the point where inflation is rampant sure has made people's lives better right?

It’s a twisted country that won’t heal or treat sick people properly but will mutilate or kill them for ever-expanding reasons.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s a twisted country that won’t heal or treat sick people properly but will mutilate or kill them for ever-expanding reasons.

I swear it's like the gov't has given up any pretense of being on our side and is openly moving against us

Sadly- i fear the very nature of Canadians has changed.  I don't think we'll ever go back to being the same peace loving people who lived to help their neighbours and find ways to get along with everyone. We're so divided, it's hard to put that genie back in the bottle.

[Nationalist]

I see our rabid death-cultists don't wanna touch this thread.

Meh...go figure...

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I see our rabid death-cultists don't wanna touch this thread.

Meh...go figure...

I mean - what can they say? The evidence is piling up against their position pretty rapidly.  We've had our own canadian experts say that we're going way too fast diagnosing kids with 'transgenderism' and dysphoria, and there's been a huge backlash against the left's insistence that parents don't have rights,  and now europe is saying they're wrong and it's dangerous. Europe is hardly a right wing place right now

Besides they're all over in the thread about how the latest study shows lefties are angry and depressed trying to figure out how to say that they're not angry and depressed without sounding angry and depressed.

 

[Nationalist]

40 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I mean - what can they say? The evidence is piling up against their position pretty rapidly.  We've had our own canadian experts say that we're going way too fast diagnosing kids with 'transgenderism' and dysphoria, and there's been a huge backlash against the left's insistence that parents don't have rights,  and now europe is saying they're wrong and it's dangerous. Europe is hardly a right wing place right now

Besides they're all over in the thread about how the latest study shows lefties are angry and depressed trying to figure out how to say that they're not angry and depressed without sounding angry and depressed.

 

Poor dears. They need to have an apple.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Poor dears. They need to have an apple.

I worry that the solutions to their mental health issues may be beyond the power of fruit to resolve.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I worry that the solutions to their mental health issues may be beyond the power of fruit to resolve.

The power of fruit? LOL...please...you're begging me to say something rather abrasive just because it would be funny. That's torturous to me.