CdnFox Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/trudeau-liberals-to-spend-more-on-debt-payments-than-health Last week the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO) released a report warning that the Trudeau government’s spending plans remain out of control. The amount that taxpayers spend just to service the national debt is expected to go up by 33.4% this current year and 11.6% in the coming year. That means the amount we pay to cover just the interest on the national debt will rise from $35 billion last year to $46.7 billion this year and $52.1 billion next year. It’s important to put those figures in perspective because those debt payments offer no services and rob precious dollars from services. By next year, the federal government will spend more on debt payments, $52.1 billion, than they do on health transfers to the provinces and territories, $49.2 billion. The debt payments will be 9.3 times the $5.6 billion the Trudeau Liberals are spending to get their $10-a-day child care off the ground. The left just doesn't get it. When they support deficit spending like trudeau has done - they are stealing money from the future people who desperately need it. Now we have less for health, less for daycare, less for everything. I would love to hear from a liberal supporter how they justify their support of this nonsense to the people who are going to have to go without as a result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Crickets in a coal mine at midnight on Dec 21st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: The left just doesn't get it. From the OP's article; Quote One of the reasons the Bank of Canada didn’t announce interest rate cuts last week and is unlikely to next month is the rate of government spending. It doesn't make sense though. The BOC knows full well Canada will soon be governed by PP's Conservatives meaning everything that's broken will be fixed and as right as rain in no time at all. The left actually does get this but the right seems to lack the courage of it's convictions. Edited March 12 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 12 Author Report Share Posted March 12 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Legato said: Crickets in a coal mine at midnight on Dec 21st. The left can't cope with it and thus remains silent. The right already knows it. Hell you've still got those on the left trying to claim it's Harper's fault (including justin)We still see people on this very site regularly defending justin and his spending and his fiscal policy - and even if they condemn him personally they still back the libs and dips who voted yes to all this. Edited March 12 by CdnFox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 12 Author Report Share Posted March 12 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: From the OP's article; It doesn't make sense though. The BOC knows full well Canada will soon be governed by PP's Conservatives meaning everything that's broken will be fixed and as right as rain in no time at all. That's 19 months away. That's not "soon" at all. The damage justin can do in that time is huge. They can't take the risk till they know he's gone. Where did you get the idea pp will be in "Soon"? I know you have trouble counting - take your mittens off and try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's 19 months away. That's not "soon" at all. It's soon enough given the three terms some people seem to think they'll be in power. In any case, I could care less about the debt given the quadrillions of dollars worth of wealth there is in the world. Money is the least of humanity's problems - what to do with it all is the problem. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 12 Author Report Share Posted March 12 Just now, eyeball said: It's soon enough given the three terms some people seem to think they'll be in power. In what way would the time they're going to be in power define whether or not WHEN they get into power is going to happen 'soon'? Honestly - some days you could stupid for the olympics Quote In any case, I could care less about the debt given the quadrillions of dollars worth of wealth there is in the world. Money is the least of humanity's problems - what to do with it all is the problem. Blah blah blah excuse excuse distract from left wing failure at all costs blah blah... Hey - if money isn't a concern we can stop worrying about those who are poor right? Might as well let all those wealthy people keep their cash, they care about it more. Except you constantly crybaby about how you DO care about money and desperately want to steal other peoples because you don't earn enough yourself and are jealous. At the end of the day - people will get less health care than they need. That's just a fact. Because we're blowing our money on the interest on the debt your buddy racked up. Do you care about that? About people who are suffering in pain because they won't get the treatment they need because trudeau has to pay the credit card bill? Does that matter to you? Maybe it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: In what way would the time they're going to be in power define whether or not WHEN they get into power is going to happen 'soon'? The great speed with which things will change once the Liberals as dispatched. And don't rule out the possibility the NDP will pull the plug. Quote Hey - if money isn't a concern we can stop worrying about those who are poor right? I said the concern is what we do with it. So no we can't stop worrying about the poor at all. Quote Except you constantly crybaby about how you DO care about money and desperately want to steal other peoples because you don't earn enough yourself and are jealous. Tax not steal, because I care about there being so many poor people that it'll be another cause for war and far greater suffering. Edited March 12 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 There is something morally wrong with expecting future generations to continue paying for services that were used before they were born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, eyeball said: The great speed with which things will change once the Liberals as dispatched. I'd worry more about the great speed at which your braincells are being dispatched these days, Quote And don't rule out the possibility the NDP will pull the plug. Always possible but unlikely in the near future. Quote I said the concern is what we do with it. So no we can't stop worrying about the poor at all. Sure we can - Like you said it doesn't matter so we don't need to worry about it. Quote Tax not steal, Neither. Sorry. ANd you don't care about anyone. You just like to virtue signal. So the rich might as well keep their cash. Maybe we can get them to chip in for some nice bootstraps for those poor that don't have them? Sorry kiddo - but you lost the right to make that arguement when you claimed not to care about the fact we can't afford health care because there's so much money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: Neither. Sorry. You're just being silly, you know perfectly well taxation and emergency appropriations are entirely legal. Quote ANd you don't care about anyone. You just like to virtue signal. I'm lying. Honestly. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 49 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're just being silly, you know perfectly well taxation and emergency appropriations are entirely legal. IT's not a question of being legal. It's a question of who gets into power and what their mandate is. People are done with being excessively taxed. Kill the cbc, cut the social programs, let people keep their money - that'll be the new mandates. Polievre says he's going to turn the cbc offices into housing LOL! We can tax the poor if you like - they have to provide free labour or something for the 'glory of society' . I mean, it's not like they're doing anything else, they're poor. Quote I'm lying. Honestly. Everybody knows. Honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: People are done with being excessively taxed. Sure they are. Tax the rich more appropriately and that will change. Quote We can tax the poor if you like - they have to provide free labour or something for the 'glory of society' . I mean, it's not like they're doing anything else, they're poor. The 1% can also pay higher wages so everyone can afford to pay more tax. But if you'd rather they just pay the government to redistribute societies wealth have it your way I guess. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure they are. Tax the rich more appropriately and that will change. Tax the rich less and no more freebies is the answer people will go for and they'll elect politicians that agree. Your buddy justin has shown the country that taxing the rich is a fast way to go broke. Quote The 1% can also pay higher wages so everyone can afford to pay more tax. They'll have even more if we stop wasting their money on poor people. The middle class has realized when you tax the 'rich' its the middle class that suffer and they're done with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Tax the rich less and no more freebies is the answer people will go for and they'll elect politicians that agree. Your buddy justin has shown the country that taxing the rich is a fast way to go broke. They'll have even more if we stop wasting their money on poor people. The middle class has realized when you tax the 'rich' its the middle class that suffer and they're done with that. Someone's spiked your kool-aid with LSD. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Someone's spiked your kool-aid with LSD. You and your kind brought this on yourselves kiddo. We've done 10 years of going woke - now we're broke -and as i've been saying all along (for decades now) it's the poor who end up paying for that. Hypocrisy has a price. Welcome to the new canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Welcome to the new canada Same as the old Canada. 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You and your kind brought this on yourselves kiddo. Wait until PP cozies up to Canada's unions and eschews our corporations, something you're trumpeting will be the case in your other thread. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: Same as the old Canada. Except with less taxes and fewer freebies for poor people. Quote Wait until PP cozies up to Canada's unions and eschews our corporations, something you're trumpeting will be the case in your other thread. Hes pretty much eschewing the unions too. He's essentially commiting to listening to the people and the unions and corporations will have to convince them, not him Now- i know that the idea of a politician that listens to the people and not special interest groups pisses you lefties off horribly but you'll just have to get used to it for now. Probably wont' last more than, ohhhh ... 15 - 20 years or so? LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: i know that the idea of a politician that listens to the people and not special interest groups pisses you lefties off horribly but you'll just have to get used to it for now You should merge this thread with your other one on the topic. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 50 minutes ago, eyeball said: You should merge this thread with your other one on the topic. Why? The idea that PP will spend money on what people want, not blow it and rack up debt is entirely germaine to the subject at hand. Or are you just butt hurt your golden boy has proven that if you vote woke you go broke and would rather contain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Why? The idea that PP will spend money on what people want, not blow it and rack up debt is entirely germaine to the subject at hand. The idea it that PP also won't do what people don't want which is to see a region carved out of a national policy for political gain, especially when it's at everyone else's expense. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The idea it that PP also won't do what people don't want which is to see a region carved out of a national policy for political gain, especially when it's at everyone else's expense. Ok - he won't do that either. (do you even know what you're talking about at this point?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Ok - he won't do that either. (do you even know what you're talking about at this point?) Yup. See you in the other thread. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yup. See you in the other thread. LOL - sure kid. You know you don't have to actually tell me, it's not like i wouldn't have recognized you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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