Where Have All The TRUE Leaders Gone...?

[Eddy]

Is it just me, or is the biggest crisis-deficit the western world lacks right about now is decent, effective leadership...?

[impartialobserver]

one thing about today that is different than 1986 (as an example) is that the scrutiny is more intense than ever. In 1986, there was no internet, no social media, and therefore not nearly as many media outlets. The number of folks who publicly weigh in on absolutely everything that you do or say has increased exponentially. 

[Eddy]

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"...The scrutiny is more intense than ever..."

Good point. But then look at a guy like Donald Trump -- with his track record, he shouldn't have even been allowed near the raceway, never-mind entry into the starting gate...!

Another problem is the short attention spans of voters. They all feed on "sound bites & selfies" anymore -- there's no real soundness or foundation to our leaders...doesn't have to be any. Anything & everything goes, as long as the candidate remains religiously "politically correct".

We're short-changing decent candidates that way, & they short-change us, in kind. I heard a very applicable saying re. the voting process one time: "Anyone can vote for whomever, as long as they're 18 -- yet, you actually need a licence to catch a fish around here..."

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Eddy said:

Is it just me, or is the biggest crisis-deficit the western world lacks right about now is decent, effective leadership...?

great leaders only rise in moments of catastrophic crisis

the Western World is currently in the throes of Gilded Age 2.0

in such an Oligarchy, all the elites become cowards, sycophants, cronies & traitors

until said status quo collapses under its own weight

the Oligarchs will prevent any leaders from rising to overthrow them

[Dougie93]

56 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

 1986 (as an example)

ah, what a great year that was

the Soviets sued for peace at Reykjavik

in the face of Dutch Reagan & MAGA

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

 is that the scrutiny is more intense than ever.

 

was John Brown not subject to intense scrutiny ?

he was after all hung from the neck until he was dead for " treason, murder, and conspiring with slaves to rebel "

[impartialobserver]

10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

 

was John Brown not subject to intense scrutiny ?

he was after all hung from the neck until he was dead for " treason, murder, and conspiring with slaves to rebel "

Apples to oranges. For a public official.. read that carefully, the scrutiny comes at you from far more sources. 

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Apples to oranges. For a public official.. read that carefully, the scrutiny comes at you from far more sources. 

John Brown is America's ultimate public official

the founder of the Glorious Union itself

out of many, one

in the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea . . .

[impartialobserver]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

John Brown is America's ultimate public official

the founder of the Glorious Union itself

out of many, one

in the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea . . .

not the same.. no matter how you spin it. John brown did not live in the age of the internet

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

not the same.. no matter how you spin it. John brown did not live in the age of the internet

the internet is frankly atomizing

it doesn't empower anyone, quite the opposite

Americans now stare into their smartphones like Telescreen, totally paralyzed therein

whereas in 1861, Americans would take action in the face of the tyranny they perceived

both sides seized with a fiery Protestant faith, to make the world over again

unto death as necessary

nothing on this earth could stop them leading from the front

[impartialobserver]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

the internet is frankly atomizing

it doesn't empower anyone, quite the opposite

Americans now stare into their smartphones like Telescreen, totally paralyzed therein

whereas in 1861, Americans would take action in the face of the tyranny they perceived

both sides seized with a fiery Protestant faith, to make the world over again

unto death as necessary

nothing on this earth could stop them leading from the front

1861.. there were a few newspapers in DC and nearby. So at most 20 journalists scrutinizing what you say or do. Now... thousands of journalists or faux-journalists.. To say that the two eras are one in the same.. that is some Twilight zone esque stuff. 

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

1861.. there were a few newspapers in DC and nearby....

Dude. Eddie is a bot. And dougie is a butt.  What are you doing?

[I am Groot]

They couldn't survive the age of sound bytes, with reporters 'interpreting' everything else they said in an hour or two-hour speech in a few sentences.