Are the Democrats an Actual Cult?

[User]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

That's the pattern. Republicans ruin the economy, Democrats repair. Then because it takes a few years for the turn-around, Republicans can blame it on the Dems to get re-elected.

That certainly is the left-wing bogus talking point. 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

That's the pattern. Republicans ruin the economy, Democrats repair. Then because it takes a few years for the turn-around, Republicans can blame it on the Dems to get re-elected.

We've been over this - that's the opposite of the truth. 

[Hodad]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

That's the pattern. Republicans ruin the economy, Democrats repair. Then because it takes a few years for the turn-around, Republicans can blame it on the Dems to get re-elected.

Indeed, this is a consistent pattern. A case of the dogmatic vs pragmatic. 

[User]

11 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Indeed, this is a consistent pattern. A case of the dogmatic vs pragmatic. 

The only consistent pattern you should concern yourself with here is that of you and other leftists on this forum consistently running away from discussions where they have been caught lying or posting other false garbage or in your case putting them on ignore because you can't handle constantly being called out. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, User said:

The only consistent pattern you should concern yourself with here is that of you and other leftists on this forum consistently running away from discussions where they have been caught lying or posting other false garbage or in your case putting them on ignore because you can't handle constantly being called out. 

In fairness is pretty hard for them to enjoy their favorite pastime of lying themselves into believing their talking points if you're just going to come along and slap them with the truth.

So in the end this is all your fault anyway  

[WestCanMan]

On 3/30/2025 at 6:17 AM, Barquentine said:

That's the pattern. Republicans ruin the economy, Democrats repair. Then because it takes a few years for the turn-around, Republicans can blame it on the Dems to get re-elected.

It's because of stupid shit like what you just said there that you're considered a cultist.

"Trump ruined the economy in 2020 and Biden's economy created record job growth!" 

Sometimes it's impossible to tell which cultists know the truth and are just dishing out the new propaganda, and which ones are the total id10ts who actually believe it, but both groups are part of the cult. 

[Barquentine]

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

On 3/30/2025 at 10:17 AM, Barquentine said:

Republicans ruin the economy, Democrats repair. Then because it takes a few years for the turn-around, Republicans can blame it on the Dems to get re-elected.

It's because of stupid shit like what you just said there that you're considered a cultist.

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2024/10/the-u-s-economy-performs-better-under-democratic-presidents

 

[Barquentine]

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/historical-puzzle-us-economic-performance-under-democrats-vs-republicans

"Since World War II, Democrats have seen  job creation average 1.7 % per year when in office, versus 1.0 % under the GOP.  US GDP has averaged a rate of growth of 4.23 percent per annum during Democratic administrations, versus 2.36 per cent under Republicans, a remarkable difference of 1.87 percentage points. This is postwar data, covering 19 presidential terms—from Truman through Biden.  If one goes back further, to the Great Depression, to include Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt, the difference in growth rates is even larger."

Just now, Barquentine said:

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/historical-puzzle-us-economic-performance-under-democrats-vs-republicans

"The last five recessions all started while a Republican was in the White House (Reagan. G.H.W. Bush, G.W. Bush twice, and Trump)."

[Barquentine]

• https://www.epi.org/press/new-report-finds-that-the-economy-performs-better-under-democratic-presidential-administrations/
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• Annual real GDP growth is 1.2 percentage points faster during Democratic administrations than Republican ones (3.79% versus 2.60%).  
• Total job growth has averaged 2.5% annually during Democratic administrations, while it is barely over 1% annually during Republican administrations. Applied to today’s total workforce, this would imply nearly 2.4 million more jobs created every year under Democratic administrations.  
• The Democratic advantage is even larger in private job growth than it is for total job growth. Notably, business investment is higher during Democratic administrations, with investment growth running at more than double the pace than it does during Republican ones. 
• Average rates of inflation—both overall and “core” measures that exclude volatile food and energy prices—are slightly lower during Democratic administrations. 
• Families in the bottom 20% of the income distribution experience 188% faster income growth during Democratic administrations.  

[Barquentine]

https://galeoimpactfund.org/2022/10/how-the-economy-is-better-under-democratic-vs-republican-leadership/

"A very specific pattern has emerged over the past 100 years and overall, the economy has grown much faster under Democratic leadership rather than Republican ones (Leonhardt, 2021). "

[Barquentine]

https://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/DemRep_BlinderWatson_July2015.pdf

"The U.S. economy has performed better when the President of the United States is a
Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance. For
many measures, including real GDP growth."

[Barquentine]

I don't need all these quotes and citations because I'm old enough to have witnessed it myself, from Bush Sr. to Biden, but I know you guys will jump on me like rabid squirrels about it, so I thought I'd cite some proof for you.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

I don't need all these quotes and citations because I'm old enough to have witnessed it myself, from Bush Sr. to Biden, but I know you guys will jump on me like rabid squirrels about it, so I thought I'd cite some proof for you.

It's not that the policies are demonstrably better, as supported by evidence. It's just that they've been getting lucky, consistently, for the last 45 years.🙄

They will shut out this information immediately. No room for it in their religion. 

[User]

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

It's not that the policies are demonstrably better, as supported by evidence. It's just that they've been getting lucky, consistently, for the last 45 years.🙄

They will shut out this information immediately. No room for it in their religion. 

Yeah right, says the guy who has me on ignore and ran away from multiple discussions where you ignored how much Biden and Democrats were spending. 

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2024/10/the-u-s-economy-performs-better-under-democratic-presidents

 

Liberals and Democrats are famous for two things: 

• a massive increase in the number of public sector jobs
• shitty economies where the number of "jobs" go up, but they are almost all shitty part-time jobs

Our LPOC gov't even wants to create a crown corporation to construct new homes in Canada... Just imagine that DEI, unionized, sick-days, full pension, medical benefits farce of a company churning out tiny homes at $2M a pop, while Liberal cronies with no skills whatsoever get fat bureaucratic jobs to skim millions off the top. "We need to create homes for the marginalized blah-blah-blahs because we're so awesome..." and $10B will create 300 homes, if we're lucky. 

And FYI, again, you've just chosen a chart that specifically shows Biden's economy regaining covid job losses from the Trump economy, without making a note of of it

Edited April 4 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2024/10/the-u-s-economy-performs-better-under-democratic-presidents

 

soooo ... you included covid in that. Covid, where every single democrat advocated for shutting down business and keeping people at home . You're blaming trump for covid. 

 

Sigh. If you didn't have dishonesty you'd have no honesty.  When  you take covid out of the picture he did better than obama.

Oh and clinton created jobs by creating sub prime mortages, which is what caused the great recession.  Soooo sure. Well done. 

You're an !diot.

[Hodad]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Liberals and Democrats are famous for two things: 

• a massive increase in the number of public sector jobs
• shitty economies where the number of "jobs" go up, but they are almost all shitty part-time jobs

Our LPOC gov't even wants to create a crown corporation to construct new homes in Canada... Just imagine that DEI, unionized, sick-days, full pension, medical benefits farce of a company churning out tiny homes at $2M a pop, while Liberal cronies with no skills whatsoever get fat bureaucratic jobs to skim millions off the top. "We need to create homes for the marginalized blah-blah-blahs because we're so awesome..." and $10B will create 300 homes, if we're lucky. 

And FYI, again, you've just chosen a chart that specifically shows Biden's economy regaining covid job losses from the Trump economy, without making a note of of it

Because if something challenging happens while a president is in office, he gets a Mulligan!  

Trump plays president with a very high handicap, you know, because he's not prepared for a tough hole.

Only easy holes. He loves easy holes. When you're a celebrity you can do whatever you want.

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

soooo ... you included covid in that. Covid, where every single democrat advocated for shutting down business and keeping people at home . You're blaming trump for covid. 

 

Sigh. If you didn't have dishonesty you'd have no honesty.  When  you take covid out of the picture he did better than obama.

Oh and clinton created jobs by creating sub prime mortages, which is what caused the great recession.  Soooo sure. Well done. 

You're an !diot.

I think that one's actually one of the cult's liars. 

He went to great lengths to try to distract people from the fact that he got caught lying about covid job losses/bounceback jobs. 

The cultist dolts, like robo and eyeball, will just regurgitate the propaganda and then ignore any replies that are over their head. Eyeball will say "No maths", and Robo will chime in with "You're just failing to memorize and repeat my blatant BS because of your own cognitive dissonance". 

Edited April 4 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Because if something challenging happens while a president is in office, he gets a Mulligan!  

Trump plays president with a very high handicap, you know, because he's not prepared for a tough hole.

Only easy holes. He loves easy holes. When you're a celebrity you can do whatever you want.

How many soldiers died while each president was in office? 

OMG, LOOK AT ROOSEVELT'S TERM!!! HE WAS SO MUCH WORSE THAN TRUMP!

[Barquentine]

31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

you included covid in that. Covid, where every single democrat advocated for shutting down business and keeping people at home . You're blaming trump for covid

Blaming him for mishandling it. But even with Covid, the facts hold.

GDP, recessions...

Aren't you the guy who pisses his pants when some one doesn't include a citation? But when you get them and they counter your argument, you choose to ignore the inconvenient facts. You, my little friend, are intellectually dishonest.

Study after study has proven you WRONG.

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Blaming him for mishandling it.

No, that's not what you're doing at all.

You're comparing:

1. the term at the start of a pandemic to
2. the term after a pandemic ended. 

I don't, even for a second, think that you're so stupid that you can't see how detrimental that would be to one, and advantageous to the other. 

It's as informative as my post above, which compares the number of US soldier that died during Roosevelt's term to the number of US soldiers that died during Trump's first term.

Is the huge disparity because "Roosevelt mishandled WWII", Barqy?

Of course not... My comparison, done in jest, is equal in terms of its deceitfulness to yours, which you tried to pass off as a meaningful comparison. 

Hence, you wear the liar label.

Even the "mishandling" story is cultist drivel. You're nothing but a cultist tool. 

[User]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Blaming him for mishandling it. But even with Covid, the facts hold.

GDP, recessions...

Aren't you the guy who pisses his pants when some one doesn't include a citation? But when you get them and they counter your argument, you choose to ignore the inconvenient facts. You, my little friend, are intellectually dishonest.

Study after study has proven you WRONG.

This is a multivariate analysis, and you guys are only looking at one thing. Your argument is not honest. 

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Blaming him for mishandling it. But even with Covid, the facts hold.

Really. So you disagree with his decision and the governor's decisions to shut businesses down and send people home? You feel that the correct response would have been to keep the businesses going and have people continue to mingle during covid? Because that's what led to the work slowdowns.

ANd no the facts do not hold in the slightest when you take covid out of it 

So in other words you are completely bullshiting and you got caught out in your lies and now you're trying to pretend that somehow there's a justification.

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GDP, recessions...

Oh you mean like the one that Clinton caused with his housing policies which caused the collapse when the democrats refused to change those rules when the republicans got into power? I mean even Clinton has commented on it. He knew he had created a monster, the democrats wouldn't let him change the law and they wouldn't let bush change the law when he got in either out of blew up in their face. But you'll call it a republican recession even though it was entirely democrats

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Aren't you the guy who pisses his pants when some one doesn't include a citation?

No. where the hell did you get that? If anything i'ts your side who pisses themselves about it.  I only note how often people like you demand it form others but don't do it themselves.

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But when you get them and they counter your argument, you choose to ignore the inconvenient facts. You, my little friend, are intellectually dishonest.

I didn't get them, I started talking after you had already presented them. You didn't get them for me. 

So lie one. 

Secondly, i didn't "ignore' them at all, i directly addressed them in my first post to you. It was the reason i posted in the first place, to show your stats were dishonest and why. Including the covid work loss numbers in trumps' record and the covid job recovery numbers in biden's is dishonest in the extreme

 

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Study after study has proven you WRONG.

Also a lie,  if anything the opposite is true. And i note you weren't able to actually refute any of the points i raised. You simply said 'nuh huh' as if that was some sort of logical argument 

Strike three 

What were you saying about being intellectually dishonest?  the left always accuses others of what they themselves do,  shame on you. 

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Really. So you disagree with his decision and the governor's decisions to shut businesses down and send people home? You feel that the correct response would have been to keep the businesses going and have people continue to mingle during covid? Because that's what led to the work slowdowns.

ANd no the facts do not hold in the slightest when you take covid out of it 

So in other words you are completely bullshiting and you got caught out in your lies and now you're trying to pretend that somehow there's a justification.

Oh you mean like the one that Clinton caused with his housing policies which caused the collapse when the democrats refused to change those rules when the republicans got into power? I mean even Clinton has commented on it. He knew he had created a monster, the democrats wouldn't let him change the law and they wouldn't let bush change the law when he got in either out of blew up in their face. But you'll call it a republican recession even though it was entirely democrats

No. where the hell did you get that? If anything i'ts your side who pisses themselves about it.  I only note how often people like you demand it form others but don't do it themselves.

I didn't get them, I started talking after you had already presented them. You didn't get them for me. 

So lie one. 

Secondly, i didn't "ignore' them at all, i directly addressed them in my first post to you. It was the reason i posted in the first place, to show your stats were dishonest and why. Including the covid work loss numbers in trumps' record and the covid job recovery numbers in biden's is dishonest in the extreme

 

Also a lie,  if anything the opposite is true. And i note you weren't able to actually refute any of the points i raised. You simply said 'nuh huh' as if that was some sort of logical argument 

Strike three 

What were you saying about being intellectually dishonest?  the left always accuses others of what they themselves do,  shame on you. 

"BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!!" - as he uses the numbers deceitfully

It makes no difference to him if we know that he's lying, because the cultist sheep just lap it up.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

"BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!!" - as he uses the numbers deceitfully

It makes no difference to him if we know that he's lying, because the cultist sheep just lap it up.

Anyone who knows anything about numbers knows that not only do numbers lie, given half a chance they'll drink your whiskey, steal your dog and sleep with your girl     Hence the saying there's lies, damn lies and statistics.

Attempting to pass off the great employment shutdown necessitated by covid as "job losses" attributable to trump demonstrates right off the bat that honesty is not their front and center concern.