January 6 Still a Big Liability for Trump

[Deluge]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

I strongly recommend you vote for Ramyswamy.

Just don't tell your MAGA CULT leader, or he'll send his mob to kill you.

Good Lord, robosmith, that first line is the most lucid post I've seen from you. Well done! 

Trump is harmless, but he turned on Ramaswamy which was a mistake. I'll still take Trump over anyone else, but Ramaswamy is the guy. 

Edited January 14, 2024 by Deluge

[CdnFox]

 I think most people see the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to the BLM riots and the j6 riot.  Only those who are firmly already in the dem camp and hate the donald will still care election day

 

Edited January 15, 2024 by CdnFox

[Nationalist]

Hey Libbies!

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

[robosmith]

Why Jan. 6 is a problem for Trump’s campaign

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As the GOP appears poised to formally line up behind Trump as its standard-bearer this November, fewer Republicans today call the rioters criminals or say the judicial punishments they’ve received are appropriate than in the immediate aftermath of the Capitol attack, polls show.

That’s helped ease Trump’s path to the nomination. But those shifts in public opinion haven’t extended to the rest of the electorate, including independents, suggesting a continued danger for Republicans and an opening for Democrats: GOP voters may increasingly brush it aside, but the Jan. 6 riot continues to be toxic in a general election.

The findings of two polls released this week underscore the risk for the GOP in tapping Trump again, just as Republicans in Iowa and New Hampshire prepare to cast the first votes in the primary contest.

Democrats and independents still hold starkly negative views of Jan. 6, its participants and Trump’s role in stoking the riot. Majorities of Americans overall still believe now-President Joe Biden was elected legitimately, that Trump is guilty of trying to steal the election and that the federal criminal charges in Washington against Trump are appropriate.

Even as surveys generally show Trump running even with the unpopular Biden or leading him narrowly in the horse race, Trump’s refusal to concede the last election and his actions leading up to the Capitol riot are significant liabilities for his candidacy.

And it’s not just a poll-based hypothetical that direct ties to Jan. 6 or broader denial of the 2020 election results are a millstone for Trump and his aligned candidates. Only 14 months ago, voters in the midterms rejected the majority of 2020 election deniers — especially in battleground states — despite a political environment and generic ballot that otherwise favored Republicans.

Trump may have succeeded in moving GOP voters away from their immediate revulsion after Jan. 6, but the broader electorate is less likely to come onboard in November. 

 

[CdnFox]

On 1/15/2024 at 3:31 AM, Nationalist said:

Hey Libbies!

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Iowa treated trump like he was an incumbent president. That's exactly what the numbers look like.  People in Iowa very obviously feel like he did win the last election and see him as a president seeking another term. The numbers line up perfectly for that kind of perception. I'm not saying that they're confused that he actually IS the current president, but they very clearly see him in that same light as if he were

If other states see him the same way he has won this 100 percent. Incumbents get renominated and that's that.

Turn out was low, he swept almost all the classes and groups, he won by an overwhelming number,  in people's minds hes' already the nominee.

If he wins the next one which is Haley's home field then i'd say it's completely over and trump is the nominee and now it'll just be about what strategy biden and trump are going to have.  And trump will spend the rest of the nomination process stumping for the election which will give him a bit of an edge over biden in that respect.

 

[Caswell Thomas]

On 1/13/2024 at 8:51 PM, Deluge said:

Illinois is a democrat stronghold, God help them. 

It looks like the cuck neocons want Haley as the nominee, so that explains her upward surge. I'm leaning more towards Ramaswamy every day. 

well I hope you follow him then, he just quit the Campaign. 

[Caswell Thomas]

On 1/13/2024 at 8:54 PM, Deluge said:

He's LEADING BIDEN you backward assed regressive. I never said that this was the actual race. Don't they teach you black lesbian studies majors anything? 

Apparently they teach us better eyesight and not through dirty political glasses. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Iowa treated trump like he was an incumbent president. That's exactly what the numbers look like.  People in Iowa very obviously feel like he did win the last election and see him as a president seeking another term. The numbers line up perfectly for that kind of perception. I'm not saying that they're confused that he actually IS the current president, but they very clearly see him in that same light as if he were

If other states see him the same way he has won this 100 percent. Incumbents get renominated and that's that.

Turn out was low, he swept almost all the classes and groups, he won by an overwhelming number,  in people's minds hes' already the nominee.

If he wins the next one which is Haley's home field then i'd say it's completely over and trump is the nominee and now it'll just be about what strategy biden and trump are going to have.  And trump will spend the rest of the nomination process stumping for the election which will give him a bit of an edge over biden in that respect.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

well I hope you follow him then, he just quit the Campaign. 

He stepped down which is the classy thing to do, and now he's backing Trump which is super smart. 

4 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Apparently they teach us better eyesight and not through dirty political glasses. 

No, they don't. You're still in the hair sniffer's camp.

[godzilla]

On 1/15/2024 at 12:05 AM, CdnFox said:

 I think most people see the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to the BLM riots and the j6 riot.  Only those who are firmly already in the dem camp and hate the donald will still care election day

 

BLM rioters and J6 had very different targets.

BLM attacked the police.

j6 tried to cease power of the nation.

NOTE EQUAL. NOT THE SAME.

and BLM got nailed for it.

Over 300 People Facing Federal Charges For Crimes Committed During Nationwide Demonstrations

one thing is certain... i don't see any Democrats calling these BLM convicts "hostages".

Edited January 17, 2024 by godzilla

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, godzilla said:

BLM rioters and J6 had very different targets.

BLM attacked the police.

j6 tried to cease power of the nation.

Hogwash.  J6 didn't try anything of the sort. There was no possible way they could do that and they were clearly aware. The power of the nation was never in any danger in the slightest.  They were making what they believed was a strong political point.

And blm was not just 'attacking police'. They took over gov't buildings, they threatened gov't people, etc etc. They even took over a hunk of a city.

Trying to pretend that both weren't doing teh same thing - trying to force their own political ideology on others by force and violence - is simply hypocrisy.

They are the same thing. Both are terribly wrong - neither are 'insurrection' - and you can't call one 'mostly peaceful' and condemn the other as violent insurrection.

That kind of hypocrisy is what divides people and ruins nations,