Israeli ministry 'concept paper' proposes transferring Gaza civilians to Egypt's Sinai, with Canada as a possible final destination

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Understanding is just not same as support no matter how much you try to bullshit your way around it.

 

Sure it is. It's suggesting there is a rational reasonable answer that other people could easily comprehend, even if they disagree with it. It's giving credence and validity to the concept.  It's what we say when what we really mean is "I don't think they should have but i might very well have done the same thing in their shoes".  

So yes it absolutely is the same as support.  Not unequivocal support, not full support but sure its definitely support.

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Is the US navy on hand to support Israel or understand it?

Support i'm sure should other nations jump into the fight.  But according to your logic maybe they're just there to try to understand what's going on - that's not support

The fact is if the us navy never fires a shot they're still supporting israel because their presence and implied willingness to interfere possibly deters others.  Just as even tho you don't say you agree with the terrorists, claiming that their actions are 'understandable' is support for them because it implies that their actions were reasonable from some points of view.

Now stop supporting terrorists please.

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1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

But according to your logic maybe they're just there to try to understand what's going on - that's not support

Well, you'll just have to try harder yourself then.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Well, you'll just have to try harder yourself then.

LOL  i really don't I'm not the one trying to walk two sides of the fence at the same time   So for me it's easy  

Your claim that the terrorist attack is 'understandable' is support.  The navy is support. See? Not hard for me at all. 

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Just now, CdnFox said:

Your claim that the terrorist attack is 'understandable' is support.

So, I guess it's safe to say you'd submit to Israel's subjugation because you're understanding or supportive?

[eyeball]

I support this guy.

Supporting Palestinian rights is antisemitic because Israel wants it to be

Criticizing Israeli policy is not new for me — and neither is the backlash that inevitably follows. But it never gets easier. As someone who was born and raised in Israel, I don’t take accusations that I’m “feeding antisemitism” lightly. But I do refuse to believe that my safety, and the safety of my family, is dependent on oppressing anyone else.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1268680

Just look at Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., who has been beating the antisemitism drum for weeks. Yes, the same Greene who once blamed wildfires on Jewish space lasers and now compares mask mandates to Nazi gas chambers.

The fact that Greene, despite her own record, felt comfortable weaponizing antisemitism as an alleged defense of Israel while spewing antisemitic remarks shows how cynical the discourse about this heinous form of racism has become.

Calling people anti-Semitic is like listening to white people saying they're better than everyone else.

Edited November 6, 2023 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

So, I guess it's safe to say you'd submit to Israel's subjugation because you're understanding or supportive?

That doesn't even make sense.  For gods sake could you at least pretend you know how english works?

I support isreal's right to self defense, that DOES make sense. All people have a right to defend against an unprovoked attack, which that was.

I do not support hamas's slaughter of innocent civilians, there is no possible rational for that which makes sense to sane people.

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

I support this guy.

 

You support terrorists, why wouldn't you support that guy.

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That doesn't even make sense.  For gods sake could you at least pretend you know how english works?

Of course it's makes sense but naturally whenever a question puts you on the spot you get all disingenuous.

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You support terrorists, why wouldn't you support that guy

Because I'm not a disingenuous right-wing chud who doesn't have a clue what terrorist, understand or support mean.

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Of course it's makes sense but naturally whenever a question puts you on the spot you get all disingenuous.

 

Maybe on whatever planet your from - but here on earth it made no sense in the slightest.

When you get frustrated and feel you're in the wrong, you just start spouting drivel.

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Because I'm not a disingenuous right-wing chud who doesn't have a clue what terrorist, understand or support mean.

I asked why you wouldn't support his guy considering you support terrorists.

So you're saying all people who are not right wingers support terrorists?

dId you perhaps mean to say something else?

LOL -  left wingers are so cute when they get frustrated.

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4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you're saying all people who are not right wingers support terrorists?

No, you're who's saying that.

Its interesting that in Israel most right wing Jews regard most left wing Jews as being anti-Semitic for simply being left wing. Its so interesting because it's so absurdly familiar.

And you think we have it bad here in North America with our left right rupture? Israel is  is even more self-loathing than Canada.

 

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, you're who's saying that.

 

I've never said that.  Where did I ever say that? You were the one who brought it up.

 

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Its interesting that in Israel most right wing Jews regard most left wing Jews as being anti-Semitic for simply being left wing. Its so interesting because it's so absurdly familiar.

also untrue.

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And you think we have it bad here in North America with our left right rupture? Israel is  is even more self-loathing than Canada.

Not really a 'rupture' issue here - the left hates everybody who isnt the left an the right wants the left to leave it alone. Wouldn't surprise me if it was the same in israel

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I've never said that. 

You ooze it.

 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

also untrue.

You might find this as interesting read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hating_Jew

The terms "self-hating Jew" and "self-loathing Jew" are used to describe a Jew whose viewpoints on any specific matter are perceived as antisemitic.^[

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Haaretz writes that the term is almost exclusively used today by the Jewish right against the Jewish left, and that within left-wing and liberal circles, is "usually considered a joke"

Just like us...or we're like them. Jews have been fighting a culture war amongst themselves for a lot longer than we have.

 

[I am Groot]

On 11/5/2023 at 9:44 PM, Gaétan said:

This is the mossad propaganda on the web but not true.

Fock you. It absolutely is real. There are too many witnesses. And world media have been invited into private viewings of some of the video, some taken from local cameras, some from the cameras the gleeful savages took themselves as they attacked. You are either a complete blithering imbecile or an outright Nazi.

Sabrina Maddeaux: I watched Hamas hack innocents to death. The worst part was their glee

Screened footage showed literal streams of blood, hacked off arms and legs, and an infant missing part of its skull, brain leaking out

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/sabrina-maddeaux-i-watched-hamas-hack-innocents-to-death-the-worst-part-was-their-glee

On 11/4/2023 at 9:05 PM, eyeball said:

That's exactly what people who understand what spawned the root causes of the conflict between these two brutalized peoples are doing.

If you choose to regard understanding as being the same as support you're only considering one side of the conflict without any thought given to what that is spawning in our society. 

It wouldn't be spawning in OUR society if we didn't keep bringing it over here without the slightest effort to screen it out.

[Gaétan]

4 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Fock you. It absolutely is real. There are too many witnesses. And world media have been invited into private viewings of some of the video, some taken from local cameras, some from the cameras the gleeful savages took themselves as they attacked. You are either a complete blithering imbecile or an outright Nazi.

 

You cannot beleive anything like that on the web, it is full of liers paid by the governments of any countries. It was denied by israli army itself.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

You cannot beleive anything like that on the web, it is full of liers paid by the governments of any countries. It was denied by israli army itself.

Oh but we should believe you on the web.

He's right -you're a nazi.  All you care about is slaughtering jews and covering it up when  hamas does it. Pathetic.

[I am Groot]

2 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

You cannot beleive anything like that on the web, it is full of liers paid by the governments of any countries. It was denied by israli army itself.

Are you blind? This was shown to journalists at mainstream papers inside the Israeli consulate. It was shown to other mainstream papers and media outlets, including the BBC, CNN and American networks at embassies in Europe. It has most certainly NOT been denied by the Israeli army no matter what Nazi newspaper you might have read that in.

[Gaétan]

4 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Are you blind? This was shown to journalists at mainstream papers inside the Israeli consulate. It was shown to other mainstream papers and media outlets, including the BBC, CNN and American networks at embassies in Europe. It has most certainly NOT been denied by the Israeli army no matter what Nazi newspaper you might have read that in.

You said it was shown by israelis, than it is not true, the mossad cut the head of palestinians babies and they said they were israelis.

[I am Groot]

1 minute ago, Gaétan said:

You said it was shown by israelis, than it is not true, the mossad cut the head of palestinians babies and they said they were israelis.

Even a Nazi would be too smart to come back with garbage like that.

All that's left is you are a Muslim from a culture where ridiculous blatant lies pass for argument. Which country is it? Where do you come from?

[Gaétan]

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

Even a Nazi would be too smart to come back with garbage like that.

All that's left is you are a Muslim from a culture where ridiculous blatant lies pass for argument. Which country is it? Where do you come from?

I am a christian

[I am Groot]

12 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

I am a christian

I doubt anyone here believes that. Where do you come from?

[Gaétan]

8 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I doubt anyone here believes that. Where do you come from?

Quebec, Canada

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39 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

It wouldn't be spawning in OUR society if we didn't keep bringing it over here without the slightest effort to screen it out.

What is it your trying to screen out exactly? People? Ideas? News? Awareness?

[CdnFox]

34 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

I am a christian

You are a scumbag.  Now - i realize the two aren't mutually exclusive but in your case I'm inclined to think that even the all merciful and forgiving God of the christians would look at you and be like "oh, gross."

 

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What is it your trying to screen out exactly? People? Ideas? News? Awareness?

 

Scumbags? Terrorists? Baby burning homicidal lunatics? Muslim nazis? Democrats? All that type.

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by CdnFox

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Scumbags? Terrorists? Baby burning homicidal lunatics? Muslim nazis? Democrats? All that type.

Democrats? The rest certainly make sense. But Democrats? That's just silly.

[Legato]

32 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Democrats? The rest certainly make sense. But Democrats? That's just silly.

Not all Democrats are crazy, I would like to meet him.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Democrats? The rest certainly make sense. But Democrats? That's just silly.

Well they do support hamas a lot these days...