Why do Democrats and Republicans both support Ukraine?

[Rebound]

On 9/19/2023 at 4:46 PM, Deluge said:

It has everything to do with it. Homosexuality is the core of woke bullshit, and most of Ukraine wants in. The parts that don't want it, want Putin to step in. 

Russia invaded Ukraine to stop homosexuality? Where in phuck’s name do you get your ridiculously stupid ideas? Jesus, you have absolutely lost all touch with reality. 
 

Tell us, where was this ever published?  
Also, did you support Hitler’s wars, since he rounded up all the gays and gassed them in the concentration camps? Sounds like Hitler was your favorite guy.  

Edited September 21, 2023 by Rebound

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

So why are you pretending that Yanukovych was NOT a Putin stooge and didn't double cross the Ukrainian people who voted for him?

Have I said that? I swear robo-bot, you have a seriously precarious relationship with the simple truth of things.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

That must be why the Ukraine government is trying to get all those war refugees extradited back to Ukraine. 

Must be...

So we got the Deluge BS that Russia invaded Ukraine because of homosexuality and now we’ve got your horseshlt that Ukraine is trying to extradite war refugees back into their country. 
 

https://kyivindependent.com/official-there-will-be-no-mass-extradition-of-draft-evaders-from-abroad/

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, Rebound said:

So we got the Deluge BS that Russia invaded Ukraine because of homosexuality and now we’ve got your horseshlt that Ukraine is trying to extradite war refugees back into their country. 
 

https://kyivindependent.com/official-there-will-be-no-mass-extradition-of-draft-evaders-from-abroad/

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/5/7418542/

https://www.pressenza.com/2023/09/no-extradition-of-war-refugees-to-ukraine/

[Rebound]

16 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/5/7418542/

https://www.pressenza.com/2023/09/no-extradition-of-war-refugees-to-ukraine/

Oh, yes, of course. You only accept disinformation from Pravda, the state news of Russia. 

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

1. Russia invaded Ukraine to stop homosexuality? Where in phuck’s name do you get your ridiculously stupid ideas? Jesus, you have absolutely lost all touch with reality. 

2. Tell us, where was this ever published?  

3. Also, did you support Hitler’s wars, since he rounded up all the gays and gassed them in the concentration camps? Sounds like Hitler was your favorite guy.  

1. It's deeper than that, woketard, but it's cool if you want to look at it that way. Ukraine wants the taint of leftism all over it, and Putin isn't having any of it. 

2.  Was what ever published? The fact that Ukraine wants the US to infect it with the wokeness infection too? It's pretty obvious isn't it? 

3. Nope. But thanks for turning to typical leftist bullshit hysteria in your time of need during a debate.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, robosmith said:

Ukraine kicked Yanukovych out because he was a Putin stooge who was bribed to renege on the Western trade agreement HE PROMISED to get elected.

IOW, you KNOW NOTHING about what happened in Ukraine.

Ukraine is NATO's b*tch - it's a puppet regime. Former chief homosexual, Barack Obama, has his fingerprints all over that Godforsaken country.

Russia is the only thing standing between it and complete woke wankery. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Oh, yes, of course. You only accept disinformation from Pravda, the state news of Russia. 

LOL...yet you can't deny it. Bye laddie.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

1. It's deeper than that, woketard, but it's cool if you want to look at it that way. Ukraine wants the taint of leftism all over it, and Putin isn't having any of it. 

2.  Was what ever published? The fact that Ukraine wants the US to infect it with the wokeness infection too? It's pretty obvious isn't it? 

3. Nope. But thanks for turning to typical leftist bullshit hysteria in your time of need during a debate.

You are a complete fricking ldiot.  He didn’t invade another country and kill 100,000 people and have all his oligarchs lose their foreign assets and put up with sanctions… to fight homosexuality.  
 

Buddy, you’re as dumb as a slice of burnt toast. 

[Deluge]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You are a complete fricking ldiot.  He didn’t invade another country and kill 100,000 people and have all his oligarchs lose their foreign assets and put up with sanctions… to fight homosexuality.  
 

Buddy, you’re as dumb as a slice of burnt toast. 

Now don't be a little b*tch. 

You perverts are not difficult to figure out. All one has to do is pay attention, and he will detect your bullshit almost immediately.

Most of Ukraine wants to be woke too, and Putin isn't having it on his borders - Putin is right.  

Edited September 21, 2023 by Deluge

[Nationalist]

I don't know about the homo angle but, I do know that the ethnic Russians in the eastern regions of Ukraine twice voted to separate from Ukraine. I also know that in response to this, the Ukrainian government sent a battalion of self described neo-nazis to bomb the crap out of the region. Thus, these ethnic Russians fought back. Eventually, Russia sent in its military to quell the budding war, but wound up increasing the war. I know that then, the USA and NATO stepped up their efforts to arm the Ukrainians. More escalation.

And the kicker for me is...Ukraine is a failed state that NATO has rejected.

Are there any "good guys" in this sad story? No.

But there is a lot of "bad guys" doing their damnedest to justify a never-ending war with Russia...on Ukrainian soil...without any NATO direct involvement. These are the gutless. The hypocrites. The war mongers.

The death-cult.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

That must be why the Ukraine government is trying to get all those war refugees extradited back to Ukraine. 

Must be...

Getting them freed from kidnapping is NOT "extradited." Duh

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Getting them freed from kidnapping is NOT "extradited." Duh

Kidnapping? Hey put the bottle down robo-bot.

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I don't know about the homo angle but, I do know that the ethnic Russians in the eastern regions of Ukraine twice voted to separate from Ukraine. I also know that in response to this, the Ukrainian government sent a battalion of self described neo-nazis to bomb the crap out of the region. Thus, these ethnic Russians fought back. Eventually, Russia sent in its military to quell the budding war, but wound up increasing the war. I know that then, the USA and NATO stepped up their efforts to arm the Ukrainians. More escalation.

And the kicker for me is...Ukraine is a failed state that NATO has rejected.

Are there any "good guys" in this sad story? No.

But there is a lot of "bad guys" doing their damnedest to justify a never-ending war with Russia...on Ukrainian soil...without any NATO direct involvement. These are the gutless. The hypocrites. The war mongers.

The death-cult.

You don’t know about the homo angle?

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You don’t know about the homo angle?

no

[Rebound]

Just now, Nationalist said:

no

Well, your “partner” (snicker) Deluge can explain it all to you.  

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

Well, your “partner” (snicker) Deluge can explain it all to you.  

My "partner" is over seas right now visiting her mother.

 

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

My "partner" is over seas right now visiting her mother.

 

Aha! You married an illegal immigrant.  Yea you did. Yeah you did.  

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Aha! You married an illegal immigrant.  Yea you did. Yeah you did.  

Ya actually...I did. And then we went back to her homeland and got her permanent residence status. Since I worked at that embassy, it was rather simple.

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Kidnapping? Hey put the bottle down robo-bot.

I haven't TOUCHED a bottle in WEEKS, gnat man.

Seems you have, cause you imagine your response is an actual "argument" instead of insulting BULLSHIT.

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

I haven't TOUCHED a bottle in WEEKS, gnat man.

Seems you have, cause you imagine your response is an actual "argument" instead of insulting BULLSHIT.

What kidnapping?

[Rebound]

18 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya actually...I did. And then we went back to her homeland and got her permanent residence status. Since I worked at that embassy, it was rather simple.

Since you were part of the Deep State, illegal immigration was perfectly fine FOR YOU, when it was convenient FOR YOU and when it benefitted YOU.  Perfectly ok FOR YOU. But those others are rapists and murderers, right? 

[Nationalist]

Just now, Rebound said:

Since you were part of the Deep State, illegal immigration was perfectly fine FOR YOU, when it was convenient FOR YOU and when it benefitted YOU.  Perfectly ok FOR YOU. But those others are rapists and murderers, right? 

Its funny that, when pushed, you have no problem making dumb accusations and warping people's words.

FYI smartass...my wife had been a Soviet "refugee" from the 80's. The system was so slow that the Velvet Revolution happened and the government denied her claim. So we went overseas to fix that...which is how the law is...and shortly after we arrived, the local embassy hired me. Did I take advantage of the system? No. We did the right thing.

Have a nice day...you fool.

[Rebound]

13 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Its funny that, when pushed, you have no problem making dumb accusations and warping people's words.

FYI smartass...my wife had been a Soviet "refugee" from the 80's. The system was so slow that the Velvet Revolution happened and the government denied her claim. So we went overseas to fix that...which is how the law is...and shortly after we arrived, the local embassy hired me. Did I take advantage of the system? No. We did the right thing.

Have a nice day...you fool.

Nope, you totally Deep Stated the whole thing. All those Venezuelan refugees should be kicked out with your wife.  Sorry. Send her back to Putin and you can go with her since you love him soooo much. 

[robosmith]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What kidnapping?

What extradition? Ukrainians (esp children) taken into Russia were kidnapped.

Putin is indicted by the ICC for those CRIMES.

Situation in Ukraine: ICC judges issue arrest warrants against Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

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Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation, is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute). The crimes were allegedly committed in Ukrainian occupied territory at least from 24 February 2022.