What would the USA look like if the American Revolution never happened

Rebound · September 12, 2023

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

You're a communist in American's clothing.

And the Good Lord has nothing to do with your side - ever.

The liberals are sheep, and you are a goat.

Matthew 25:31

Deluge · September 12, 2023

11 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The liberals are sheep, and you are a goat.

Matthew 25:31

The goats are Liberals; they hate even the notion of Jesus - they can't even acknowledge his existence.

The sheep understand that most lab coats are worn by Jesus trashing activists, not actual scientists.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Deluge

Queenmandy85 · September 12, 2023

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

England wouldn't have HAD America in either war - not in the same capacity. The US would've been an equivalent to Canada or Australia in both wars.

Are you trying to tell me that England with just its commonwealth countries would've added enough to win both world wars?

I'm not sure what you mean. In 1914, Great Britain declared war on behalf of Canada, New Zealand South Africa and Australia. Had the been no American revolution, that would have included the US, which would also have been a Dominion. This was before the Statute of Westminster. All of the Dominions carried their share of the load. Canada, with a population of 8 million, sent 660 thousand troops to the war with a loss of 66,000 war dead. (Half of the US fatalities with one twelfth of the population.) With the US entering the war in 1914 instead of 1917, the impact would have shortened the war significantly. The American Revolution removed the bulk of American conservatives. Had they remained in America, support for Britain and France would have been much stronger. That being said, the enormous contribution of the US in 1918 made a massive difference. France still carried the largest burden and paid the greatest price.

In WW 2, the situation was different. The Dominions were independent and each had the choice to go to war in 1939. I believe, the US would still have had a more conservative leaning in 1939 and would have entered the war soon after Great Britain.

American historians really underestimate the impact the loss of 50-100 thousand conservative Americans had on America. I suspect the BNA act would have included the 13 Colonies.

Deluge · September 12, 2023

1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I'm not sure what you mean.

Then I'll rephrase.

Are you saying that America was not needed in either world war?

robosmith · September 12, 2023

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

There is no MAGA cult. There's just me rubbing freedom in your communist face.

The election was rigged, and proof is starting to come out.

Presented in banana court, which doesn't count. Once Trump gets back into office he'll set your swamp on fire and we'll have a bbq to celebrate.

Already presented as sworn bullshit. You woketards are about finished, and we can thank God for that.

Sorry, but you, Trump, and Putin will not succeed in destroying America. ?

Actually, not sorry. LMAO

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

The good Lord is the reason you climate whores are in such angst. I'd repent if I were you.

Leftist's don't deserve civility. You deserve hostility and ONLY hostility all day every day for the rest of your godforsaken lives.

Is ^this really what your "good lord" tells you? LMAO

Edited September 12, 2023 by robosmith

Queenmandy85 · September 13, 2023

5 hours ago, Deluge said:

Then I'll rephrase.

Are you saying that America was not needed in either world war?

No, I am saying America was needed in both wars. Whether you consider my alternative scenario or the reality, America would have joined the Allies in both wars.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Queenmandy85
I talk too much

Rebound · September 13, 2023

5 hours ago, Deluge said:

The goats are Liberals; they hate even the notion of Jesus - they can't even acknowledge his existence.

The sheep understand that most lab coats are worn by Jesus trashing activists, not actual scientists.

People who have read the Bible can tell that you have not read it.

Deluge · September 13, 2023

12 hours ago, Rebound said:

People who have read the Bible can tell that you have not read it.

Do you think God is real?

Deluge · September 13, 2023

14 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

No, I am saying America was needed in both wars. Whether you consider my alternative scenario or the reality, America would have joined the Allies in both wars.

America would be a lot less than it actually is if we negotiated with GB instead of fought for our freedom.

Deluge · September 13, 2023

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

1. Sorry, but you, Trump, and Putin will not succeed in destroying America. ?

2. Is ^this really what your "good lord" tells you? LMAO

1. Empty headed nonsense from an America hating sociopath.

2. The good Lord gives us logic & reason to see through the bullshit that is leftism. You goat worshippers are the worst thing that has ever happened to this country, and we will set your swamp on fire in '25.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Deluge

Queenmandy85 · September 13, 2023

Less how? I find it strange that a great nation, the most generous imperial power in history, sometimes has a lingering anger in some quarters. Most of the world likes the USA. A lot of people would love to be Americans, hence, the line ups at your borders. People pay smugglers 10's of thousands of dollars, their life savings, plus borrowed money, to get in. You must be doing something right.

robosmith · September 13, 2023

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

1. Empty headed nonsense from an America hating sociopath.

That would be YOU, who defends the guy who tried to destroy our democracy and is defended by Putin.

So basically YOU=Putin since you're both defending Trump with LIES.

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

2. The good Lord gives us logic & reason to see through the bullshit that is leftism. You goat worshippers are the worst thing that has ever happened to this country, and we will set your swamp on fire in '25.

I don't eat goat and never have. Duh

Jesus was a democrat. He threw the money changers out of the temple.

Capitalists invite them in.

Rebound · September 13, 2023

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Do you think God is real?

Of course.
That is why I do what God commands, and I feed a lot of hungry people. Whether Jew or Christian, the Bible is absolutely clear on this commandment, and Christianity not only commands it but states that it is the clear path to redemption or damnation.

Are you ready? Can you face God today for judgement and tell him that all of your anti-immigrant talk and demands to turn away immigrants and imprison them meets His commandment to you to feed, clothe and house the poorest of the poor? I do not see how.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Rebound

Deluge · September 13, 2023

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Of course.
That is why I do what God commands, and I feed a lot of hungry people. Whether Jew or Christian, the Bible is absolutely clear on this commandment, and Christianity not only commands it but states that it is the clear path to redemption or damnation.

Are you ready? Can you face God today for judgement and tell him that all of your anti-immigrant talk and demands to turn away immigrants and imprison them meets His commandment to you to feed, clothe and house the poorest of the poor? I do not see how.

Interesting that your only real take from the Bible is anything that appears to support Socialism or Communism. This isn't a surprise, of course.

You must also think that Karl Marx was a secret disciple of Jesus, and both Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin had God's ear.

The real question is, are you prepared to speak with God about anything that doesn't have to do with Communism/Socialism or the Queer agenda, or breaking US law?

Nobody is truly prepared to speak with God, but it helps to actually internalize His word, not replace his gospel with left-wing talking points.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Deluge

Deluge · September 13, 2023

36 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. That would be YOU, who defends the guy who tried to destroy our democracy and is defended by Putin.

So basically YOU=Putin since you're both defending Trump with LIES.

2. I don't eat goat and never have. Duh

3. Jesus was a democrat. He threw the money changers out of the temple.

4. Capitalists invite them in.

1. This isn't a democracy; it's a Constitutional Republic. You see? Your head is so far up the Left's a$$ that you don't even know where you live anymore.

2. You're lying. Not only do you worship goats, but you probably consume them as well.

3. Satan is the democrat. Jesus is a Republican - He inspired the authors who all LOVED the constitution. YOU hate the Constitution. It's why you stunted perverts never talk about it unless we're rubbing it in your faces.

4. Biden invites illegals in. He has to in order to help the scumbags on the Left remain in power.

robosmith · September 13, 2023

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

1. This isn't a democracy; it's a Constitutional Republic. You see? Your head is so far up the Left's a$$ that you don't even know where you live anymore.

It is a democratic Republic. Democracy is always part of a Republic, since the representatives are elected democratically.

It is you who never knew where he lives.

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

2. You're lying. Not only do you worship goats, but you probably consume them as well.

You have NO CREDIBILITY and never have.

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

3. Satan is the democrat. Jesus is a Republican - He inspired the authors who all LOVED the constitution. YOU hate the Constitution. It's why you stunted perverts never talk about it unless we're rubbing it in your faces.

The authors of the Constitution were (mostly) Deists who did NOT believe in Jesus. Duh.

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

4. Biden invites illegals in. He has to in order to help the scumbags on the Left remain in power.

Biden's Sec of DHS told everyone the border is CLOSED. So it is YOU who is LYING.

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Deluge · September 13, 2023

40 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. It is a democratic Republic. Democracy is always part of a Republic, since the representatives are elected democratically.

2. It is you who never knew where he lives.

3. You have NO CREDIBILITY and never have.

4. The authors of the Constitution were (mostly) Deists who did NOT believe in Jesus. Duh.

5. Biden's Sec of DHS told everyone the border is CLOSED. So it is YOU who is LYING.

1. Wrong. It is a Constitutional Republic with officials who are elected democratically. But when you refer to the US, you say it's a Constitutional Republic. Anything other than that is revised leftist bullshit.

2. I live in the United States of America which is governed by Rule of Law. You also live in the United States of America, but you think it is ruled by leftism. There is no such thing as the US being ruled by leftism, hence, you have no idea where in the f*ck you live.

3. I have all the credibility you need. You should pay more attention.

4. The authors of the Constitution were largely Christian. Promoting anything outside that is pure bullshit leftism.

5. Biden is a liar, and so are you.

Of course, CNN and people like you call them "migrants", but we all know that it's illegal aliens doing the evading.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Deluge

Rebound · September 14, 2023

18 hours ago, Deluge said:

Interesting that your only real take from the Bible is anything that appears to support Socialism or Communism. This isn't a surprise, of course.

You must also think that Karl Marx was a secret disciple of Jesus, and both Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin had God's ear.

The real question is, are you prepared to speak with God about anything that doesn't have to do with Communism/Socialism or the Queer agenda, or breaking US law?

Nobody is truly prepared to speak with God, but it helps to actually internalize His word, not replace his gospel with left-wing talking points.

You don’t know what I think. You don’t know me at all. I’ve simply pointed out a commandment about salvation which is very clear. If you want to thumb your nose at it and laugh, that’s your business.

Maybe you’ll go to heaven because God loves people who don’t feed the poor and hate gays. It’s not what the Bible says, but I don’t make the decisions.

Deluge · September 14, 2023

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

You don’t know what I think. You don’t know me at all. I’ve simply pointed out a commandment about salvation which is very clear. If you want to thumb your nose at it and laugh, that’s your business.

Maybe you’ll go to heaven because God loves people who don’t feed the poor and hate gays. It’s not what the Bible says, but I don’t make the decisions.

I know what you bang out on your keyboard, and all arrows point to left-wing nonsensical bullshit.

Marxists don't get to point out commandments and still be taken seriously.

I will go to heaven because I understand the difference between "feeding the poor" and supporting global leftism - you don't.

I will go to heaven because I understand the difference between hating the behavior, not the person - you don't.

You don't understand the Bible. And when someone doesn't understand the Bible, and still tries to use it, then the user spreads evil everywhere.

Rebound · September 14, 2023

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

I know what you bang out on your keyboard, and all arrows point to left-wing nonsensical bullshit.

Marxists don't get to point out commandments and still be taken seriously.

I will go to heaven because I understand the difference between "feeding the poor" and supporting global leftism - you don't.

I will go to heaven because I understand the difference between hating the behavior, not the person - you don't.

You don't understand the Bible. And when someone doesn't understand the Bible, and still tries to use it, then the user spreads evil everywhere.

Marxism and capitalism did not exist when the Bible was written.

If you think the message “Feed the poor” is evil, I’d say that you certainly miss the message of the Bible.

Try highlighting every word in the Bible which is the word of God and Jesus. It is very little. But feeding the poor is in the list. Housing the poor is.

Read God’s words in Ezekiel 16:49–50:

"This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty, and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it."

No mention of sodomy or homosexuality. They did not aid the poor and needy. So saith The Lord. Call that liberal or Marxist if you want, but I call it the Bible and the New Testament clearly says this, as I’ve quoted for you.

In Isaiah 1:9, God refers again to Sodom and Gomorrah and repeats this admonition: “Learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.” No mention of homosexuality

I am not here to pas judgement on you. I’m just pointing out the words of the Good Lord. If you want to call the Holy Bible “Bullshit,” that is your decision to make. Free speech, Liberty, freedom, whatever you want to call it.

Edited September 14, 2023 by Rebound

Queenmandy85 · September 14, 2023

If there had been no revolution, the US would be an independent Consititutional Republic if that is what they desired. The would not necessarily be members of the Commonwealth. That too is a choice each country makes.

Robosmith wrote "It is a democratic Republic. Democracy is always part of a Republic, since the representatives are elected democratically."

Just to correct something stated earlier, while the US is a constitutional republic, not all republics are democratic. In reality, most republics are not democratic. North Korea, China, Iran and Zimbabwe, for example.

Edited September 14, 2023 by Queenmandy85

Deluge · September 14, 2023

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

1. Marxism and capitalism did not exist when the Bible was written.

2. If you think the message “Feed the poor” is evil, I’d say that you certainly miss the message of the Bible.

3. Try highlighting every word in the Bible which is the word of God and Jesus. It is very little. But feeding the poor is in the list. Housing the poor is.

4. Read God’s words in Ezekiel 16:49–50:

"This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty, and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it."

No mention of sodomy or homosexuality. They did not aid the poor and needy. So saith The Lord. Call that liberal or Marxist if you want, but I call it the Bible and the New Testament clearly says this, as I’ve quoted for you.

5. In Isaiah 1:9, God refers again to Sodom and Gomorrah and repeats this admonition: “Learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.” No mention of homosexuality

6. I am not here to pas judgement on you. I’m just pointing out the words of the Good Lord. If you want to call the Holy Bible “Bullshit,” that is your decision to make. Free speech, Liberty, freedom, whatever you want to call it.

1. I never said it did, and you're a deceitful degenerate for even suggesting that I was trying to communicate that.

2. I see, so you're trying to tell me that God has commanded you to neglect your immediate surroundings and help feed illegal aliens at our nation's borders? Did He also tell you to help bring them into the country illegally?

3. I see, so you're trying to tell me that God has commanded you to neglect your immediate surroundings and help feed illegal aliens at our nation's borders? Did He also tell you to help bring them into the country illegally?

4. Sodom was destroyed because of iniquity, and homosexual behavior was no exception. You do understand that queers came to Lot's home and told him they wanted to "know" his guests, right? Homosexuals were wiped out right along with everyone else in that sh*tbowl of a city.

5. Isaiah 1:9 doesn't say any of that shit. It tells us to learn from Sodom's mistakes. Do NOT follow Sodom.

6. You're here to bend the Bible into your political view. The problem is that you ran into the wrong guy to try and do that with.

Edited September 14, 2023 by Deluge

robosmith · September 14, 2023

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

And when someone doesn't understand the Bible, and still tries to use it, then the user spreads evil everywhere.

You should know since that's what YOU DO DAILY HERE. ?

robosmith · September 14, 2023

9 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

If there had been no revolution, the US would be an independent Consititutional Republic if that is what they desired. The would not necessarily be members of the Commonwealth. That too is a choice each country makes.

Robosmith wrote "It is a democratic Republic. Democracy is always part of a Republic, since the representatives are elected democratically."

Just to correct something stated earlier, while the US is a constitutional republic, not all republics are democratic. In reality, most republics are not democratic. North Korea, China, Iran and Zimbabwe, for example.

Google and Oxford Languages say you're wrong:

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Queenmandy85 · September 14, 2023

3 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. I never said it was, and you're a deceitful degenerate for even suggesting that I was trying to communicate that.

2. I see, so you're trying to tell me that God has commanded you to neglect your immediate surroundings and help feed illegal aliens at our nation's borders? Did He also tell you to help bring them into the country illegally?

3. I see, so you're trying to tell me that God has commanded you to neglect your immediate surroundings and help feed illegal aliens at our nation's borders? Did He also tell you to help bring them into the country illegally?

4. Sodom was destroyed because of iniquity, and homosexual behavior was no exception. You do understand that queers came to Lot's home and told him they wanted to "know" his guests, right? Homosexuals were wiped out right along with everyone else in that sh*tbowl of a city.

5. Isaiah 1:9 doesn't say any of that shit. It tells us to learn from Sodom's mistakes. Do NOT follow Sodom.

6. You're here to bend the Bible into your political view. The problem is that you ran into the wrong guy to try and do that with.

What happens to me? I am a retired Peace Officer. The uniform I wore for 25 years was an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, same as homosexuality. I grew up eating pork. My job required me to work on the Sabbath. Next to my service to the community, the sin of homosexuality pales to insignificance. Some people who quote the Bible only observe the passeges that fit into their arguments and ignore anything they find inconvenient. I am one of those people. I believe in the rule that says "love thy neighbour" and "turn the other cheek."