The election prospects

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Of course - as an obvious liberal supporter it's important for you to cast ANYONE who raises legitimate concerns about trudeau as "irrational".  

There's the rub.

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46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There's the rub.

LOL - if it wasn't legit you'd have something other to say than that  

But of course you, another liberal supporter who magically doesn't support the guy he spends all his time defending,  can't refute the issues.

Justin's bad decisions cost a lot of lives.  His covid response was poor at best.  And as a die hard trudeau supporter who constantly defends him, you have to pretend that there is NO such thing as "legitimate" issues with trudeau, beyond the trivial.

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34 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

you have to pretend that there is NO such thing as "legitimate" issues with trudeau,

No, Lavalin is certainly a legitimate issue, so is his government's failure to reduce CO2 emissions or bring about the electoral reform that was promised. These are tangible legitimate issues that can be substantiated with actual evidence of having actually happened or not as the case may be. Your issues aren't.

Do you believe your issues and the way you present them make Poilievre more electable or do you think they're needed to win potential voters?  As I've said, you're trying way to hard.

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No, Lavalin is certainly a legitimate issue, so is his government's failure to reduce CO2 emissions or bring about the electoral reform that was promised. These are tangible legitimate issues that can be substantiated with actual evidence of having actually happened or not as the case may be. Your issues aren't.

Of course they are and massive evidence has been given.  There is no doubt that justin invested millions and millions in a Chinese company instead of going with the us or british ones.  That's fact - well documented.  That is a LEGITIMATE Issue.

There's zero doubt that decision cost canadian lives. Period.

Now - you can argue like i said that it was an unavoidable mistake, or incompetence - or that it was something more given his relationship with china and such.  But - you cannot argue that lives were lost as a result.

So. It's legit to question that. It would be a lie to pretend otherwise.

But of course - as a good liberal supporter you have to do your duty and pretend that someone questioning his actions based on verified facts is 'illegitimate'.

Then there's inflation, the whole immigration issue which is substantially driving inflation, the doubling of the debt, the spreading hatred among canadians and calling people wastes of space who perhaps shouldn't be tolerated,  the list goes on and on and on .

Other than legalizing dope i don't think there's a single positive thing he's done.

But - you have to lie and pretend there's no legitimacy to any of the issues around him. 

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There's zero doubt that decision cost canadian lives. Period.

I can certainly doubt it cost thousands and thousands of lives. Especially without something more tangible and rational than your inflation arithmetic. Perhaps your case would be stronger if it was based on the research and the sort of methods used to determine how many Canadian lives were lost due to vaccine misinformation. 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Now - you can argue like i said that it was an unavoidable mistake, or incompetence -

I did argue that it was an honest mistake - amongst many honest mistakes made by most politicians and governments around the world that likewise cost lives. I'm also quite certain there was lots of incompetence as well. It's also quite clear ideology contributed to deaths, quantifiably according to the cite I provided. Not just something I made up in other words.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 or that it was something more given his relationship with china and such. But - you cannot argue that lives were lost as a result.

I'll pass on responding to this, I'm pretty sure it's just a brain fart tangled up with a typo.

[myata]

If China only figured it out: split the communist party into China Conservative Communist Party, and China Liberal Communist Party; replaced open repression with bribery out of taxpayer pocket; echo chamber; and ostracism of dissidents (pocket media", already done); it could be a shiny G8 democracy, one of the best ever!

Of course, keep fancy (and funny) election" counting. Done.

Edited September 6, 2023 by myata