Canadian Unemployment Hits Multi-Year High As Population Doubles Job Growth

[CdnFox]

https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-unemployment-hits-multi-year-high-as-population-doubles-job-growth/

However, the unemployment rate climbed as population growth doubled the rate of jobs. This helped drive the unemployment to the highest level since the start of 2020.

Canada’s booming population is where most of the rising unemployment rate formed. The labour force expanded by 0.1% (+13,300 people) to reach 21.33 million people in July. Putting it together, that’s 13,000 more workers trying to fit into 6,000 fewer jobs in July. Canada’s population is growing faster than the country can create jobs. 

Canada’s unemployment rate did something not seen in the 2020s—it climbed for 3 months in a row. The unemployment rate increased 0.1 points to 5.5% in July. It follows an 0.2 point increase seen in May and June, respectively. The rate is still relatively low, but also the highest since January 2020. Hundreds of billions in stimulus is no longer producing excess growth when it comes to jobs. 

 

 

 

Some other fun facts from the article - it's immigrants who are finding it hard to get jobs at the moment.

So - we're bringing in tonnes of immigrants because we need them to fill jobs - we have no homes for them, we don't have enough medical services to support them, and now we don't even have jobs for them which was the reason we were bringing them here in large numbers in the first place.

 

[Moonbox]

Yeah I don't get it.  I liked the Harper approach to immigration better.  500,000/y is a mental.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah I don't get it.  I liked the Harper approach to immigration better.  500,000/y is a mental.  

Well it's not mental if you have enough homes and infrastructure for them to use AND you have enough mentors and such to help them get settled and you've very carefully targeted the applicants so those coming in are prime candidates and likely to succeed and make the country and economy stronger over time.

But none of those things are happening - that was the core of harper's immigration and it worked well and now we're in trouble.

So we're going to keep bringing immigrants in - they won't have enough jobs, they won't be able to find housing they can afford, as this worsens they will be angry and disenfranchised with no hope for the future....   care to guess how long before we have police 'no go' areas and such like we see in europe?

 

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah I don't get it.  I liked the Harper approach to immigration better.  500,000/y is a mental.  

Agreed but we're also not importing Unemployed immigrants... ( ++Family excepted)

Edited August 8, 2023 by Michael Hardner

[myata]

Keep counting down:

- (More or less) broad prosperity: gone

- Safe and crime-free communities: gone

- Realistic possibility to acquire own place: gone

- Responsible governments: gone

- Stable economy: going

- Ability to find a good job: going

And once we're through the list, where will it be? I mean, in what world?

[Moonbox]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Agreed but we're also not importing Unemployed immigrants... ( ++Family excepted)

Refugees, family+ etc.  

Last time I checked, something like 25% of new immigrants to Canada were reunification applicants.  I don’t know what the percentage breakdowns are beyond that, but I have to admit I rankle at the idea of bringing a new immigrant’s elderly parents over from wherever.  We don’t need any more elderly folk in Canada…we have enough.  ?

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Refugees, family+ etc.  

Last time I checked, something like 25% of new immigrants to Canada were reunification applicants.  I don’t know what the percentage breakdowns are beyond that, but I have to admit I rankle at the idea of bringing a new immigrant’s elderly parents over from wherever.  We don’t need any more elderly folk in Canada…we have enough.  ?

Refugees won't be significant in any stats, but people make them out to be.  They're humanitarian accommodations.

The parents of working immigrants wouldn't count, likely, Bec they're not looking for work.

My suggestion is that we look at a proper economic analysis, rather than Chudly musings ?

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

We don’t need any more elderly folk in Canada…we have enough.  ?

As an older person myself I resent that!!!  I mean... you're not wrong or anything, not even a little, but STILL!  Goddammit, show some respect! And get off my lawn!!!!!

[Moonbox]

?‍♂️

If the argument is that we need immigrants to fill jobs and support an aging population...we should be sticking to immigrants who...do that.  

[CdnFox]

22 hours ago, Moonbox said:

?‍♂️

If the argument is that we need immigrants to fill jobs and support an aging population...we should be sticking to immigrants who...do that.  

It's baffling - the gov't is bringing in excessive numbers of people it knows it can't home or care for saying it's necessary to cover jobs so it's worth the pain, then we find out they can't get jobs.  I can't figure out what their motive even is. 

[Moonbox]

Years ago I used to think it was vote pandering.  An extra 250,000 immigrants is an extra 250,000 votes for the Liberal Party of Canada.  

Actually...I still think that.  

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Years ago I used to think it was vote pandering.  An extra 250,000 immigrants is an extra 250,000 votes for the Liberal Party of Canada.  

Actually...I still think that.  

The thing is, immigrants cant' vote.  I mean if you're playing a long game maybe it would make sense but even then the numbers aren't great.

The percent of new immigrants who become citizens is falling.  As it is its'' in the mid 70's  percent and that's after a number of years - after 5 years it's still only about 40-50 precent and falling.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-626-x/11-626-x2019015-eng.htm'

And other research suggests that immigrants who do become citizens are less likely to vote than natural born Canadians by a significant amount.  And that they tend to vote based on location rather than who let them in - for example  urban toronto tends to vote liberal and immigrants there tend to vote liberal - while immigrants from the same background in other areas tend to vote what is prevelant in those areas.  there's a few exceptions but generally just because the libs let you in doesnt' mean you're going to vote for them and they don't tend to vote in blocks.

I suppose it might be worth a few extra votes long term but it honestly seems like a hell of a lot of work for a pretty weak return that could turn against you just as easily.

Maybe they might get political donations from those people?  I've seen no data on that and you can donate right away. Volunteers maybe.

[Moonbox]

Second generation immigrants, especially minorities in large urban centres (which is where they mostly live) are more likely to vote Liberal, no?