reason10 Posted August 5, 2023 Report Posted August 5, 2023 https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/fishermen-activists-protesting-offshore-wind-projects-east-coast-manmade-environmental-disaster Fishermen, activists protesting offshore wind projects on the East Coast: 'A manmade environmental disaster' Critics claim the growth of wind turbines is creating an ecological crisis including a rise in whale deaths Rhode Island fisherman Chris Brown discusses how fishermen are protesting offshore wind farms on ‘The Bottom Line.’ Critics are sounding the alarm on the ecological consequences of the Biden administration's green energy agenda, specifically the increase marine wildlife deaths in conjunction with offshore wind farms. Activists along with local fishermen are particularly concerned about the rise in whale and dolphin beaching. "What we're seeing is a failure to properly manage the situation," Rhode Island fisherman Chris Brown said on "The Bottom Line" Wednesday. "The whales have been migrating from their southern stations during the spring up through the mid-Atlantic region, and they didn't even slow down the acoustic carpet bombing. And as a result, the Atlantic was littered with the dead whales and dolphins and sharks. There doesn't seem to be any environmental concern. This is a manmade environmental disaster that's unfolding. I expect that it will half a whale population in 10 years and probably the same for our fish." video Offshore wind is leaving a ‘heavy environmental footprint’ on the East Coast: CFACT’s Craig Rucker CFACT President Craig Rucker outlines why his group is protesting offshore wind projects while the Biden administration pushes a green energy agenda. So far this year, more than 30 dead whales and 30 dead dolphins have washed up on the East Coast. Brown is among those protesting and calling on leadership to consider the consequences of such an aggressive green energy push. Other activists including the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) have staged protests at offshore wind farms such as the South Fork Wind Farm off the coast of Rhode Island. "We organized this protest to try to draw attention to the very heavy environmental footprint that offshore wind has on our eastern coast," CFACT President Craig Rucker said on "Fox & Friends" Thursday. "The Biden administration wants to put up 30,000 megawatts of offshore wind between now and 2030. I guess they believe the world's going to end in six and a half years like AOC from climate change," he added. "This means putting up 1,500 wind turbines stretching from the Carolinas right up to New England, and they're putting these offshore wind turbines about 15 to 30 miles off the coast, right in the prime habitat, in the lanes that a number of species of whales used to go north and south up and down along our coast." Rhode Island fisherman Chris Brown blasts the Biden administrations green energy push and protests offshore wind projects over a spike in marine wildlife deaths. (FOX Business/AP Photo / Fox News) The turbines are creating disruptions to the ocean ecosystem both with the sounds that are emitted by the machines during the operation phase and even during construction. "A lot of noise is being created, and we've seen unprecedented numbers of whales beach themselves along the shores. In fact, some estimate there's been about a 400% increase in whale beaching and whale strikes since they began the offshore wind construction," Rucker explained. Rucker pointed out a whale species that is of a particular concern is the Right Whale, one of the most endangered whale species in the world. BIDEN ADMINISTRATION BLAST FOR ‘HYPOCRISY’ ON OFFSHORE WIND AS IT SCRAMBLES TO PROBE WHALE DEATHS The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM), a regulatory body from the Department of Interior that leases offshore areas for energy development, posted a grant notice in May targeted at "addressing key information gaps in acoustic ecology of the North Atlantic Right Whales," one of the most endangered whale species in the world. The problem is the government has already approved offshore wind projects, and some experts are saying the attention to the whales is too little too late. Fisherman in the region are calling the government "hypocritical" after the same federal agencies almost "regulated [them] completely out of business" in an effort to protect the endangered species without any data showing fishermen bring any harm to the right whale. "I sit on an advisory board to the Rhode Island CRMC and I negotiate with the developers, and it's deny, deny, deny. They don't want to be held accountable," Brown said. "But why should they be? The president is running interference for them." "There doesn't seem to be any environmental concern. This is a manmade environmental disaster that's unfolding. I expect that it will half a whale population in 10 years and probably the same for our fish." - Fisherman Chris Brown "You elect a president in the wildest dreams that he will uphold the laws of the land, and this one has organized the dismissal of the Magnuson Stevens Act, the Endangered Species Act, and the Marine Mammal Protection Act," Brown claimed. "These laws are what give us a healthy relationship with the ocean." State leadership and lawmakers are also speaking out on the environmental crisis. In May, 50 mayors from across the Democrat-led states of New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland sent an open letter to Congress calling for an offshore wind development moratorium in light of recent marine wildlife deaths. The mayors expressed concern that the increasing number of whale and dolphin deaths is negatively impacting the ocean ecosystem their communities rely upon. video FOX Business correspondent Madison Alworth shares the latest on a Biden administration memo warning of potential harm to whales by offshore wind projects on 'The Big Money Show.' According to the mayors, since December, at least 39 whales and 37 dolphins have been found stranded on East Coast beaches near where energy developers have been conducting offshore wind surveys. Over the past five days alone, a humpback whale and six dolphins have been beached near such acoustic surveys which some environmentalists argue disturb wildlife. CLICK HERE TO READ MORE ON FOX BUSINESS The trend has not gone unnoticed, and those like Brown and Rucker are taking action to protect the oceans and marine wildlife. "Everyone that loves the ocean loves the idea of defending the ocean. What a shame it is you have to defend it from a political fiat," Brown said. "The fishermen in the New England area believe that the responsible utility of our nation's resources is a peacetime act of patriotism that is second to none. And to have that run roughshod over by the president is so disheartening. America is capable of so much more and so much better than what we're dealing with right now." Windmills harming WHALES? (Wasn't Jimmy Buffett's first humanitarian project a SAVE THE WHALES deal in the SEVENTIES?) (For the uneducated retarrds here who will immediately point to offshore oil drilling platforms, the science has already spoken. The ONLY hazard from a platform is the release of petroleum into the ocean. However, 20 to 25 TONS of oil and gas seep into the oceans EVERY DAY from cracks in the earth's crust. And because oil is heavy, it sinks to the bottom and has little to ZERO effect on most ocean life.) 1 Quote
robosmith Posted August 5, 2023 Report Posted August 5, 2023 Why are the whales dying? Sea mammal deaths hit record in New York and New Jersey AKA. DEFLECTION by "activist" fishermen. AKA, not science. Quote As whales wash up along East Coast shores at alarming rates, researchers dissect decomposing carcasses, logging whether ship strikes or fishing gear factored into each demise, while some beachgoers wonder if their favorite coastline will be next. At least 14 humpbacks and minke whales have been found dead thus far in 2023 in waters off New York and New Jersey — up from 9 in the entirety of last year. The most recent deaths were two humpbacks, whose corpses were spotted May 31, in Raritan Bay off Keansburg, New Jersey, and Wainscott on Long Island. The suspected cause of death for both was blunt force trauma, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) officials said. In New Jersey, the dead whale was a 28-foot female whose left pectoral fin had been severed — injuries consistent with being hit by a ship, officials said. The carcass was buried at Gateway National Recreation Area in Sandy Hook. On Long Island, the 47-foot-long male had extensive bruising to blubber and muscles on its head, and was later buried on the beach in Hampton Bays, Southampton. Entanglement in fishing gear and ship strikes is the reason for growing sea life deaths. Duh. Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 5, 2023 Report Posted August 5, 2023 Whale deaths are a far bigger deal than leftards want to admit. There are about ten species of 'baleen' whales that eat krill, and krill eat the plankton that are maybe the most important species on earth, providing most of the oxygen for marine life and the rest of our planet. The fecal matter from baleen whales also provides a lot of fertilizer for the plankton. Blue whales almost exclusively eat plankton, up to 4 tons a day. That's 1,500 tons of krill a year. Humpback whales eat about 2 tons of plankton a day as well. I just hate that we ignore our oceans and whales and fixate on a few coal plants 24/7. It's a joke imo. If we can find a way for leftists to make massive profits from plankton and LIVE whales the earth will be much better off for it. 2 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted August 5, 2023 Report Posted August 5, 2023 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Whale deaths are a far bigger deal than leftards want to admit. There are about ten species of 'baleen' whales that eat krill, and krill eat the plankton that are maybe the most important species on earth, providing most of the oxygen for marine life and the rest of our planet. The fecal matter from baleen whales also provides a lot of fertilizer for the plankton. Blue whales almost exclusively eat plankton, up to 4 tons a day. That's 1,500 tons of krill a year. Humpback whales eat about 2 tons of plankton a day as well. I just hate that we ignore our oceans and whales and fixate on a few coal plants 24/7. It's a joke imo. If we can find a way for leftists to make massive profits from plankton and LIVE whales the earth will be much better off for it. Too bad you ignore the effects from warming the oceans on whales. Meanwhile the OP article presents NO EVIDENCE that wind turbines are harmful to whales. Just the OPINIONS of a fisherman who is deflecting his industry's responsibility. Quote
reason10 Posted August 10, 2023 Author Report Posted August 10, 2023 Too bad you ignore the effects from warming the oceans on whales. Too bad you're too fugging STUPID to understand that humans are not warming the oceans, shit for brains. Meanwhile the OP article presents NO EVIDENCE that wind turbines are harmful to whales. Dead whales? I think DEATH is a form of harm. Ask the third grade teacher who flunked you before you dropped out of BLUE STATE SCHOOL. Just the OPINIONS of a fisherman who is deflecting his industry's responsibility. Oh, there are SCIENTIFIC sources in the link. You being too STUPID to read them does not negate their existence. Quote
Rebound Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 On 8/5/2023 at 1:08 PM, WestCanMan said: Whale deaths are a far bigger deal than leftards want to admit. There are about ten species of 'baleen' whales that eat krill, and krill eat the plankton that are maybe the most important species on earth, providing most of the oxygen for marine life and the rest of our planet. The fecal matter from baleen whales also provides a lot of fertilizer for the plankton. Blue whales almost exclusively eat plankton, up to 4 tons a day. That's 1,500 tons of krill a year. Humpback whales eat about 2 tons of plankton a day as well. I just hate that we ignore our oceans and whales and fixate on a few coal plants 24/7. It's a joke imo. If we can find a way for leftists to make massive profits from plankton and LIVE whales the earth will be much better off for it. But offshore oil drilling platforms cause none of this harm? Only offshore wind platforms? Interesting… Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
WestCanMan Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rebound said: But offshore oil drilling platforms cause none of this harm? Only offshore wind platforms? Interesting… Find the cite that shows how offshore drilling platforms are linked to whale deaths if you'd like to breach that topic. I never heard of it before. On 8/5/2023 at 1:42 PM, robosmith said: Too bad you ignore the effects from warming the oceans on whales. Cite. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, reason10 said: Too bad you ignore the effects from warming the oceans on whales. Too bad you're too fugging STUPID to understand that humans are not warming the oceans, shit for brains. Dunning Kruger proved your amateur OPINIONS mean NOTHING. 43 minutes ago, reason10 said: Meanwhile the OP article presents NO EVIDENCE that wind turbines are harmful to whales. Dead whales? I think DEATH is a form of harm. Ask the third grade teacher who flunked you before you dropped out of BLUE STATE SCHOOL. Ship strikes are the KNOWN CAUSE of dead whales. Duh. 43 minutes ago, reason10 said: Just the OPINIONS of a fisherman who is deflecting his industry's responsibility. Oh, there are SCIENTIFIC sources in the link. You being too STUPID to read them does not negate their existence. Yeah, my POSTED sources say KNOWN OTHER CAUSES are to blame, NOT the OPINIONS of some fisherman. Quote
robosmith Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Find the cite that shows how offshore drilling platforms are linked to whale deaths if you'd like to breach that topic. I never heard of it before. Cite. How is global warming affecting whales and dolphins? The rapid warming of the planet is leading to a loss of habitat for whales and dolphins and greater competition for a diminishing amount of prey species. It is affecting the timing and ranges of their migration, their distribution and even their ability to reproduce. Climate Change - Whale & Dolphin Conservation USA Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, robosmith said: How is global warming affecting whales and dolphins? The rapid warming of the planet is leading to a loss of habitat for whales and dolphins and greater competition for a diminishing amount of prey species. It is affecting the timing and ranges of their migration, their distribution and even their ability to reproduce. Climate Change - Whale & Dolphin Conservation USA FYI 'cite' doesn't mean "link to worthless propaganda". That's just an unsubstantiated opinion. I could say that it's on account of the fact that there are too many Lizzo posts in my FB feed and it would be no less informative or useful. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Rebound Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: FYI 'cite' doesn't mean "link to worthless propaganda". That's just an unsubstantiated opinion. I could say that it's on account of the fact that there are too many Lizzo posts in my FB feed and it would be no less informative or useful. You should look for better news sources than Facebook. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
WestCanMan Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Rebound said: You should look for better news sources than Facebook. TBH I don't go there to look for Lizzo 'news'. I can see how you'd think that was a thing though. Info about her latest outfit is probably highly informative, pertinent 'news' by comparison to what you get on your 'news' sources. That explains why you know so much about FBI crimes/corruption. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted August 10, 2023 Report Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: FYI 'cite' doesn't mean "link to worthless propaganda". That's just an unsubstantiated opinion. I could say that it's on account of the fact that there are too many Lizzo posts in my FB feed and it would be no less informative or useful. Too bad you've posted NOTHING which disputes the link that cites loss of habitat and food sources. Many whales need cold water to thrive because of EVOLUTION. Quote
Rebound Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Find the cite that shows how offshore drilling platforms are linked to whale deaths if you'd like to breach that topic. I never heard of it before. Cite. Exactly! Offshore drilling platforms are massive. They are many times bigger than a platform for holding a windmill. So how can it be that an itty-bitty windmill platform could allegedly kill a whale… but an offshore oil platform cannot? They’ve been around for many decades. Does it really make any sense that a windmill would kill whales but an oil platform would not? How could that be? Most likely answer: Windmills are not killing whales. If they were, then remediation could be applied. But you cannot fix something if it isn’t broken. Edited August 11, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Rebound Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 Hey, let’s toss a dart and take a wild-ass guess at who’s funding the “environmentalists” claiming that wind turbines are killing whales? Greenpeace? Nope. Sierra Club? Nope. The Koch Brothers and other oil companies? Bing Bing Bing!!! Winner Winner!!! Koch Industries is the largest single donor to Donor’s Trust, who is the largest donor by far to “CFACT,” the allegedly environmental organization that showed up on Fox News. See how it works? If the environmentalists are against you, just make up your own. Easy-peasy! 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Legato Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 18 hours ago, Rebound said: But offshore oil drilling platforms cause none of this harm? Only offshore wind platforms? Interesting… The whales have been migrating from their southern stations during the spring up through the mid-Atlantic region, and they didn't even slow down the acoustic carpet bombing. And as a result, the Atlantic was littered with the dead whales and dolphins and sharks. There doesn't seem to be any environmental concern. This is a manmade environmental disaster that's unfolding. I expect that it will half a whale population in 10 years and probably the same for our fish." Quote
reason10 Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Hey, let’s toss a dart and take a wild-ass guess at who’s funding the “environmentalists” claiming that wind turbines are killing whales? Greenpeace? Nope. Sierra Club? Nope. The Koch Brothers and other oil companies? Bing Bing Bing!!! Winner Winner!!! Koch Industries is the largest single donor to Donor’s Trust, who is the largest donor by far to “CFACT,” the allegedly environmental organization that showed up on Fox News. See how it works? If the environmentalists are against you, just make up your own. Easy-peasy! As usual, when you are losing an argument, you change the subject by dredging up the Koch Brothers. I would suggest you provide a RELIABLE link to that lie, but you and I both know you are just making this up. Quote
Rebound Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Legato said: The whales have been migrating from their southern stations during the spring up through the mid-Atlantic region, and they didn't even slow down the acoustic carpet bombing. And as a result, the Atlantic was littered with the dead whales and dolphins and sharks. There doesn't seem to be any environmental concern. This is a manmade environmental disaster that's unfolding. I expect that it will half a whale population in 10 years and probably the same for our fish." What is “acoustic carpet bombing”? It appears to be a new buzzword invented by an oil-industry funded group. What is it? What produces it? What does it do? Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rebound said: What is “acoustic carpet bombing”? It appears to be a new buzzword invented by an oil-industry funded group. What is it? What produces it? What does it do? What is acoustic carpet bombing? (I admit, this was the first time I've seen that term. But it wasn't invented by anyone in the petroleum industry.) https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/fishermen-activists-protesting-offshore-wind-projects-east-coast-manmade-environmental-disaster "What we're seeing is a failure to properly manage the situation," Rhode Island fisherman Chris Brown said on "The Bottom Line" Wednesday. "The whales have been migrating from their southern stations during the spring up through the mid-Atlantic region, and they didn't even slow down the acoustic carpet bombing. And as a result, the Atlantic was littered with the dead whales and dolphins and sharks. There doesn't seem to be any environmental concern. This is a manmade environmental disaster that's unfolding. I expect that it will half a whale population in 10 years and probably the same for our fish." Brown is a fisherman, not an oil man. ANOTHER LIE you're caught in. To explain the concept of "acoustic carpet bombing" "The Biden administration wants to put up 30,000 megawatts of offshore wind between now and 2030. I guess they believe the world's going to end in six and a half years like AOC from climate change," he added. "This means putting up 1,500 wind turbines stretching from the Carolinas right up to New England, and they're putting these offshore wind turbines about 15 to 30 miles off the coast, right in the prime habitat, in the lanes that a number of species of whales used to go north and south up and down along our coast." The turbines are creating disruptions to the ocean ecosystem both with the sounds that are emitted by the machines during the operation phase and even during construction. "A lot of noise is being created, and we've seen unprecedented numbers of whales beach themselves along the shores. In fact, some estimate there's been about a 400% increase in whale beaching and whale strikes since they began the offshore wind construction," Rucker explained. Rucker pointed out a whale species that is of a particular concern is the Right Whale, one of the most endangered whale species in the world. Gee! An ENDANGERED SPECIES being threatened, based on a LIE about climate change? I guess you enviro Nazis don't care about endangered species so long as people take your idi0tic climate change lie seriously. And you wonder why so many people think you are a mor0n. Edited August 11, 2023 by reason10 Quote
Rebound Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, reason10 said: Name the oil group, (or admit you are a LIAR who just made up this oil connection). I just did a yahoo search for "Acoustic Carpet Bombing." There were some links to using carpet in recording studios, and some linked to carpet bombing, but no combination of all three. So NO oil company has invented that term. Still, you could probably make up a site, or just go to THE VIEW (and share your thoughts with other idi0ts.) That’s because you’re too dumb to know that if you put a search term in quotes, Google searches for the entire string, and the first thing that pops up is your Fox News article. Fox News cites a phony Koch-funded environment group called CFACT, who I’ve already pointed out. So the question remains, what is an acoustic carpet bomb and who’s making it and what’s it doing? You’re the one who’s so alarmed over it; you started this thread so maybe you can tell us. @Legato says this acoustic carpet bombing is important. I don’t know what it is; the term doesn’t seem to appear outside of a few anti-windmill wackadoodle people, so he should be able to answer the question since he said it’s something important about whales. Edited August 11, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: That’s because you’re too dumb to know that if you put a search term in quotes, Google searches for the entire string, and the first thing that pops up is your Fox News article. Fox News cites a phony Koch-funded environment group called CFACT, who I’ve already pointed out. So the question remains, what is an acoustic carpet bomb and who’s making it and what’s it doing? You’re the one who’s so alarmed over it; you started this thread so maybe you can tell us. Here is CFACT. https://www.cfact.org/about/ Funny. The Koch Brothers aren't mentioned at all. That means ONCE AGAIN YOU FUGGING LIAR, you are making shit up. And you cannot produce a SINGLE reliable source linking the Koch Brothers to CFACT. While we're at it, what has given you such a hardon for the Koch Brothers? Quote
Rebound Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, reason10 said: Here is CFACT. https://www.cfact.org/about/ Funny. The Koch Brothers aren't mentioned at all. That means ONCE AGAIN YOU FUGGING LIAR, you are making shit up. And you cannot produce a SINGLE reliable source linking the Koch Brothers to CFACT. While we're at it, what has given you such a hardon for the Koch Brothers? You are a fool. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_a_Constructive_Tomorrow#:~:text=Personnel and funding,-CFACT is governed&text=In 2010%2C nearly half of,of CFACT's revenue that year. “In 2010, nearly half of CFACT's funding came from Donors Trust, a nonprofit donor-advised fund with the goal of "safeguarding the intent of libertarian and conservative donors".[10][11] In 2011, CFACT received a $1.2 million grant from Donors Trust, 40% of CFACT's revenue that year.[12] Peabody Energy funded CFACT before its bankruptcy as did Robert E. Murray's Murray Energy before its bankruptcy.” So, Donor’s Trust, and Peabody Energy and Murray Energy. And who funds Donor’s Trust? Click click… surprise surprise! “The Koch brothers, Charles and David Koch, were the top contributors to Donors Trust.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donors_Trust You are playing checkers against a grand master chess player. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Posted August 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rebound said: You are a fool. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_a_Constructive_Tomorrow#:~:text=Personnel and funding,-CFACT is governed&text=In 2010%2C nearly half of,of CFACT's revenue that year. “In 2010, nearly half of CFACT's funding came from Donors Trust, a nonprofit donor-advised fund with the goal of "safeguarding the intent of libertarian and conservative donors".[10][11] In 2011, CFACT received a $1.2 million grant from Donors Trust, 40% of CFACT's revenue that year.[12] Peabody Energy funded CFACT before its bankruptcy as did Robert E. Murray's Murray Energy before its bankruptcy.” So, Donor’s Trust, and Peabody Energy and Murray Energy. And who funds Donor’s Trust? Click click… surprise surprise! “The Koch brothers, Charles and David Koch, were the top contributors to Donors Trust.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donors_Trust You are playing checkers against a grand master chess player. You actually torpedoed Wiki a whlle back for not being very accurate. You have not shown any RELIABLE link And it doesn't matter if the Koch Brothers contributed anything at all. You linked CFACT with the Koch Brothers, (who own BILLIONS of dollars of diverse companies that supply the earth with plastic, fuel, wood, paper, advanced technology, etc. If you're somehow trying to wag your finger at the Koch Brothers in a political sense, let's not forget who is contributing to DEmonazis on your side of the aisle. A Nazi war criminal. In other words, ONE OF YOU. Quote
Rebound Posted August 11, 2023 Report Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, reason10 said: You actually torpedoed Wiki a whlle back for not being very accurate. You have not shown any RELIABLE link And it doesn't matter if the Koch Brothers contributed anything at all. You linked CFACT with the Koch Brothers, (who own BILLIONS of dollars of diverse companies that supply the earth with plastic, fuel, wood, paper, advanced technology, etc. If you're somehow trying to wag your finger at the Koch Brothers in a political sense, let's not forget who is contributing to DEmonazis on your side of the aisle. A Nazi war criminal. In other words, ONE OF YOU. I do not see what George Soros has to do with any of this. The man was born in 1930, meaning he was only 15 when WW II ended. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: I do not see what George Soros has to do with any of this. The man was born in 1930, meaning he was only 15 when WW II ended. Soros funds Democrats, BLM (Burn Loot Murder), and various election fraud interests. But if you want to play the "relevance" card, you're the idi0t who first brought up the Koch Brothers, who CLEARLY are not part of this story. At least my whataboutism is relevant. Quote
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